Arrested for dangerous driving help

Squirrel

unkel wrote:

You might also recall that I specifically excluded public roads

Aye I know, it was more for comparison with the suggestions offered than such as roundabouts.

tred wrote:

It starts in an industrial estate, and then when the buzz wears off, it moves onto the public roads.

It doesn't seem likely that he'll be doing this on public roads because the buzz has worn off.

And also, if he was doing some donuts surely it gave him some idea of how to control when the car begins to spin, so while I don't condone what he did, it was incredibly stupid, he kept away from proper public roads and could infact save lives by not hitting that Jiangling Landwind at 20kph if he spins somewhere

smashey

Hope DrDre's ban is the first he receives this year. Why do people feel the need to throw their cars into spins? Do they not realise that while they are trying to impress their mates the rest of us are standing back saying "look at that w****r"

maidhc

Interceptor wrote:

This is not 1970's East Germany, people come on here asking all kinds of questions and the day they start getting banned for asking a question is the day I quit using this site. The OP got caught doing something silly and will be sorry by the time all is said and done. Cars are fun and young people will mess in them until they benefit from experience or training, I am with the 'let he who is without sin...' brigade.

Well said.

It is hard to resist the temptation to mess with your car, the government would be better served by providing good driver training than subscribing to Joe Duffy talk about the "madness on the roads".

elexes

i dont actually know why everyones getting worked up about this poster asking for advice on how to avoide somthn

reguarly on boards.ie the question how to " backup " some sort of media comes up . now im sure in every case this is perfectly legit apart from the cases where people want to make there own mp3's to which irish law clearly states that this is against irish law

another poster hear said he was ok to do donuts etc.. in his car cause he didnt do it on a public road .. im sure ur driveway is nice and big and im glad you have some sort of place to do it so you can get it out of ur system.

where i work and live there is a shopping center ( dunnes stores shopping center in tullamore ). every friday morning and sunday morning when i went to open up i would see marks all over the ground from where people were drifting about the carpark . now to my knowlage no one was ever hurt doing this. and no one ever complained to the shopping center about it. i always thought it was good that the people doing these were doing them in a confined space instead of out in the open roads .

the fact that this poster will get jail time for this crime when a teacher in tullamore was charged with having child porn on his computer that was used for school sickens me. the teacher still teaches in a different school and recieved only a €1000 fine .

imo id prefear to see a purpesly built place so people can do this and get it out of there system .

but i do agree dre you did have it comming for a long time .at liest you will learn

ive never actually done a donut drift or simular in my life and ive never felt the need to do one . this also includes handbreak turns etc..

el tel

Where you the one doing the doughnuts or was it *YOUR MATE*
who's name you don't remember?

or as a long shot, perhaps during the period while you were in the slammer
the Garda took your car and filmed it doing the chavvish stunts..?

CrowdedHouse

Interceptor wrote:

This is not 1970's East Germany, people come on here asking all kinds of questions and the day they start getting banned for asking a question is the day I quit using this site.

'cptr

He didn't get banned for asking the question,he got banned for abusing someone.

OMcGovern

This thread was quality reading all the way :-)

I think little boy racer should get a one year ban, and the nearby residents should be allowed 5 minutes with his car and a sledgehammer.

I doubt he seriously doubt he drove like a granny on the public roads at all times either..... so his arrest was probably very well deserved.

regards,
Owen

RobAMerc

Wolff wrote:

As for some of the idiots supporting the OP with moronic reasoning I can only hope you are young imature and have been driving a wet weekend - take a look at the statistics on road deaths week after week - 19 20 21 22 23 year olds in the main getting killed - the point is you wont know how to drive and never will if you indulge in such idiotic driving behaviour

I object to being called an idiot by you. ( or anyone else for that matter )
I am alot more than 23, have been driving for 16 years, and put up some serious milage in some seriously fast cars, and still have a clean licence.

I doubt any real car enthusiast has not given it stick some time or yanked the handbrake in the local empty tesco car park on a wet night.
As I said before, do you consider this more dangerous than driving half pissed, or with your mobile to your ear?

Jumping on the bandwagon could be a sport for some folk.

cormie

I don't think it can be denied that practicing spins will improve your chances of being able to have better control in a more serious situation thus improving the chances of saving lives. I've passed the advanced test, on paper I'm considered a "safe" driver. I've never done any doughnuts, or any of that jazz, and I know that going at the right speed will decrease the chances of me ever getting into that situation. However, what if I'm going the limit, say 120 on a motorway, passing somebody who is stuck behind a lorry who's in a rush, as I pass they move out too quick and clip me. I'd be guessing how best to control the spin on the spot, I'd have no experience with controlling a car in that situation so I really wouldn't know the best way. So even though on paper, I'm an advanced driver, I still don't know the best way to control a spinning car. Perhaps we should all go to an empty industrial estate for a few sessions:o

Judging by Dre's previous posts and this, it seems like it was just a matter of time before he did get a driving offense in his name. I think his previous road crimes were more serious than this and I think he's lucky to just be getting done for a few spins. Yes, doing it in a public place with people in surrounding houses getting a headache is not very considerate and hopefully whatever happens in court will make him a safer driver in the future. I don't think once the thrill of it wears off he'd start doing the same on busy public roads either.

It's the same with speeding, I'm sure there are a lot of posters in this thread already who have speeded, not necessarily been done for it, but who have just broken the limit. I'm sure 70% of the time they have not been in a rush, but they like going that extra 10 kmph on a motorway because it gives them an extra thrill. I know I have done 51kmph in a 50 zone and I'm sure that everyone here has. I remember reading a post about somebody who was in a 50 zone and him as well as virtually every other car were going about 60 and there was a speed check up above, and they didn't pull anyone doing 60 but when some chap came along doing about 90 they went after him and nabbed him. Even though everyone was breaking the law, the conditions were viewed as safe to do so by the speed checkers. I think in terms of safety, an industrial estate after closing time could be considered safe conditions and I don't know exactly what goes on, but if it was just one man and his car doing a few spins, I think the small risk of doing it in these circumstances is for the greater good in case the car may ever spin in more severe conditions.

Kersh

Fwd golfs CANT do donuts.... ok... so he couldnt have been doing them. At best he got a 180 degree handbrake turn.
Anyway, what he did was wrong, he got caught where hundreds of drunks havent been, and i honestly doubt every poster on here has stood on the right side of road traffic law 100%.
How long is he banned for??

OMG he spun his wheels. Death penalty + castration isn't good enough :mad: :mad: :mad:

Seth Brundle

Just thinking about it a bit further, Im actually surprised the gardai arrested you for DD, rather than just inform you thet they are going to summons you to court for the offence.
Is this the norm or is there something that we are missing?

Seth Brundle

cormie wrote:

I've never done any doughnuts, or any of that jazz, and I know that going at the right speed will decrease the chances of me ever getting into that situation. However, what if I'm going the limit, say 120 on a motorway, passing somebody who is stuck behind a lorry who's in a rush, as I pass they move out too quick and clip me. I'd be guessing how best to control the spin on the spot, I'd have no experience with controlling a car in that situation so I really wouldn't know the best way. So even though on paper, I'm an advanced driver, I still don't know the best way to control a spinning car. Perhaps we should all go to an empty industrial estate for a few sessions:o

If you are travelling at 120kmph and are clipped, you will be very unlikely to retain control of the car. You may retain control after a few seconds but its what happens in those few seconds that are important.

Bogger77

kbannon wrote:

Just thinking about it a bit further, Im actually surprised the gardai arrested you for DD, rather than just inform you thet they are going to summons you to court for the offence.
Is this the norm or is there something that we are missing?

It seems to be that the OP doesn't have a full license, secondly, the car was not his, it wasn't registered in his name. It was his dad's, if we're to believe him. That's based on what he's said in this thread, but going on other postings, where he's been "boasting" of cruising up the N11 from Brittas at 170kph, it's unlikely that it was his first time being stopped.

Not surprising he was brought in while they checked him out.

Wolff

RobAMerc wrote:

I doubt any real car enthusiast has not given it stick some time or yanked the handbrake in the local empty tesco car park on a wet night.

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local empty tesco car park on a wet night????

What in gods name would I be doing in an empty car park at night in the rain ?

Dogging ???
Ramraiding ????
playing starsky and hutch ????

Big Nelly

Hopefully drdre get a life ban and never is allowed to drive a car again. It is because of muppets like this that so many people are killed on our roads and insurance is mental.

Anyone who trys to agree with what this person has done should have there license taken off them because I am sure that I don't want to be driving on a road with people like that around. I consider life valuable

Well done the Garda. Again as mentioned in other thread they get another spanner off our roads

Bogger77

If I get the urge to go do some doughnuts, hand brake turns, see how far I can skid etc, I'll do it on private property. Ever notice that when Top Gear decide to do some of the crazier stuff, it's either on the airfield or on closed public roads, and by closed I mean officially close by the Police/Local Authority.

Fair enough, down in Offaly, I can borrow an empty field or two to mess in, and I dont ruin my tires while I'm at it.

Empty car parks, ind estates etc, are usually the domain of Learner drivers.

junkyard

Funnily enough some people enjoy messing about in a car, doing handbrake turns and spinning wheels and generally testing their skill. There is even a sport called auto testing which I myself have taken up lately and believe it or not it is great fun. That said from reading some of the posts here some people don't seem to know the meaning of fun. I will add its all carried on in a controlled environment before I get hammered for my irresponsible views.

heggie

drdre wrote:

this thing happens every thur and near coke factory on naas rd.it was my first time i ever went.

i just did it for the laugh but wonot be doing it ever again:D

donuts my arse,

you know what you were doing there, and you'll deserve what you'll get tbh.

Big Nelly

Big Nelly wrote:

Anyone who trys to agree with what this person has done should have there license taken off them because I am sure that I don't want to be driving on a road with people like that around. I consider life valuable

Well done the Garda. Again as mentioned in other thread they get another spanner off our roads

Yes because doing doughnuts in empty car parks kills people.

I'm glad the gaurds are chasing these menaces to society rather than waiting outside pubs and night clubs after 2am.

GoneShootin

drdre wrote:

i was doing a few wheel spins etc.

Tis ****ers like you that are terrorising my local area at 3am most saturday nights with "a few wheel spins" etc.

Hopefully you'll get a decent penalty and not a slap on the wrist.

Next time try turning the 360 degree spin into a 0 degree straight line into a brick wall.

Twat.

maidhc

Bogger77 wrote:

Ever notice that when Top Gear decide to do some of the crazier stuff, it's either on the airfield or on closed public roads, and by closed I mean officially close by the Police/Local Authority.

That doesn't stop the PC brigade:
http://cars.msn.co.uk/CarNews/TopGearApr05/Default.asp

GoneShootin

ronoc wrote:

Yes because doing doughnuts in empty car parks kills people.

The carpark was not empty, it had those driving scumbags and the gaurda in it.

Hence occupied car park
Hence people
Hence occupided car park + dangerous driving can = death.

GoneShootin

GoneShootin wrote:

The carpark was not empty, it had those driving scumbags and the gaurda in it.

Hence occupied car park
Hence people
Hence occupided car park + dangerous driving can = death.

And its defiantly as big a problem as drink driving :rolleyes:

Big Nelly

ronoc wrote:

Yes because doing doughnuts in empty car parks kills people.

I'm glad the gaurds are chasing these menaces to society rather than waiting outside pubs and night clubs after 2am.

Well its people like him and you by the sound of it that do stupid thing like your doughnuts on public road and would end up killing someone or think your a great driver and end up smashing into someone/something on the road and then come on here and post about it asking ways to get off it because your a s**t driver.

As already posted here this "driver" thinks its ok to speed on roads and do doughnuts on public road and you agree with him? problem is with people like this when they do finally crash they end up bringing some poor person with them

Why don't some people grow up?

Kermitt

I'd be the first to admit that I've slid my car sideways, but on the gravel in the yard in front of my house, we've about 200 yds of open space and have been known to get a bit of divilment into me. But never in a public place. Its simply stupidity.

And the OP boasted in another thread that he was doing 180-190kph on the M1, yet he said he was driving a 1.4 golf..I own a 02 1.4 golf and there's more chance of my grandfathers cat doing 190kph!! DR DRE is a foolish boaster, and I'd be suspicious of any of his statements, including his court appearance. Pity he's only banned from this thread.

prospect

junkyard wrote:

That said from reading some of the posts here some people don't seem to know the meaning of fun.

You are gone way off the point here.
I have driven cars very hard in mondello etc and enjoyed it very much. There is a place for this type of thing, and on a road used by the public is not it.

I work in the western industrial estate, and in the past have done overnights when installing new hardware. Once when I popped out to a 24hr petrol station for some junkfood, I encountered these people in the estate. It was a very unpleasent and hostile enviornment to be in I can assure you, and next morning I had to carefully avoid broken glass on left the road where at least one twit lost control of their car. (Which could have happened as I was passing through!.

So this has nothing to do with anyones sense of fun etc, and that is an immature and quite frankly silly point to argue.

Clay pigeon shooting is fun, would you do it in a school playground?

Big Nelly

Big Nelly wrote:

Well its people like him and you by the sound of it that do stupid thing like your doughnuts on public road and would end up killing someone or think your a great driver and end up smashing into someone/something on the road and then come on here and post about it asking ways to get off it because your a s**t driver.

Ok you are running away with yourself there. I think there is nothing wrong with doing doughnuts or skidding around if its not on a public road and there is no antisocial annoyance element to it.
That doesn't make me a bad driver.
I don't do any of these things by the way.

Big Nelly wrote:

As already posted here this "driver" thinks its ok to speed on roads and do doughnuts on public road and you agree with him? problem is with people like this when they do finally crash they end up bringing some poor person with them

Why don't some people grow up?

I never said I agreeed with him speeding. I said I would prefer gaurds to chase the drunk drivers. Rather than waste time on someone doing doughnuts. You filled in the rest yourself.

RobAMerc

What this boils down to is there should be somewhere for these guys to to this sort of stuff, off the public road and away from everyone who might be annoyed by it.

As one poster put it earlier, doing a few laps on the track is a great way of getting it out of your system.

So perhaps pointing young lads like dre in the right direction towards starting some sort of club or getting drag racing going IN A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT may be a better help than comming on here and hoping the chap is banged up.

If you boys are so horrified by his actions why not help out ?

Is1ldur

I cannot say I am a complete Saint on the road (however I don't have any points, etc.), but I have to say that these get-togethers are dangerous. I was driving home from somewhere one Sunday night a few weeks ago and turned into an Industrial Estate in Ballymount (as it was easier than going the whole way around). Must have been about one hundred people there. Then some idiot came tearing down the road on a motorbike, missed me by inches. He assumed there was no-one on the road and was too busy showing off to the 'crowd'.
That is the problem with these things. Public roads + people showing off. I have no problems with the OP being fined, banned or whatever, and anyone that thinks that he has a case does not know what the law is for.