Maybe it's time for Blueface to get INEX connectivity

Blaster99

Tracing route to sip.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.100.1
2 31 ms 33 ms 29 ms 85.134.128.3
3 27 ms 33 ms 33 ms fe-0-0-0_0.bdr001.dublin.clearwire.ie [85.134.25
5.13]
4 35 ms 33 ms 33 ms ge-5-0-0.403.ar1.dub1.gblx.net [67.17.211.53]
5 39 ms 41 ms 40 ms so6-0-0-2488M.ar2.LON3.gblx.net [67.17.66.2]
6 134 ms 134 ms 142 ms sl-bb21-lon-1-3.sprintlink.net [213.206.131.25]

7 138 ms 134 ms 141 ms sl-bb21-dub-1-1.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.109]

8 149 ms 158 ms 150 ms sl-gw1-dub-0-0-0.sprintlink.net [80.93.0.67]
9 143 ms 142 ms 141 ms sle-telec2-3-0.sprintlink.net [80.93.1.98]
10 126 ms 133 ms 125 ms hippo.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]

bhickey

Maybe it's time for Clearwire to sort their act out. Following is from ye olde BT ADSL connection :

Tracing route to sip.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms <10 ms 192.168.5.1
2 19 ms 21 ms 16 ms bas505.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.241]
3 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms vlan500.rt501.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.124]
4 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms vlan51.rt001.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.137]
5 17 ms 17 ms 16 ms ge0-0.br001.cwt.esat.net [193.95.129.4]
6 18 ms 17 ms 16 ms 213.242.106.133
7 17 ms 17 ms 16 ms 213.242.106.14
8 18 ms 17 ms 18 ms hippo.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]

Trace complete.

paulm17781

Blaster, can you remember/find the thread that you asked for an NTL person to run a traceroute to sip.blueface.ie? I can't remember where is was or my results, I just remember it was 8 hops and I'm pretty certain it didn't go to England.

Blaster99

It goes over that Sprintlink crap with IBB as well, can't remember what happens with Eircom. My point remains, though.

I don't really care about the technicalities of the routing. I don't want my VoIP traffic to go all over the place.

This is what the tracert is to boards, by the way:

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.136.250]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.100.1
2 29 ms 33 ms 33 ms 85.134.128.3
3 35 ms 33 ms 33 ms fe-0-0-0_0.bdr002.dublin.clearwire.ie [85.134.25
5.12]
4 35 ms 33 ms 41 ms panama-inex.hosting365.ie [193.242.111.87]
5 32 ms 41 ms 33 ms corerouter1.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.7]
6 44 ms 32 ms 33 ms boards.ie [82.195.136.250]

Trace complete.

and indeed esat.net

Tracing route to ftp.esat.net [193.120.14.241]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.100.1
2 30 ms 33 ms 33 ms 85.134.128.3
3 47 ms 33 ms 33 ms fe-0-0-0_0.bdr002.dublin.clearwire.ie [85.134.25
5.12]
4 27 ms 33 ms 33 ms fe0-0.br001.inex.esat.net [193.242.111.17]
5 35 ms 33 ms 41 ms pos2-3.core002.cwt.esat.net [193.95.131.5]
6 42 ms 33 ms 33 ms ge1-0.core001.cwt.esat.net [193.95.129.17]
7 47 ms 33 ms 33 ms pos3-0.core001.bmt.esat.net [193.95.131.42]
8 35 ms 33 ms 41 ms vlan2.rt001.bmt.esat.net [193.95.140.3]
9 31 ms 32 ms 33 ms ftp.esat.net [193.120.14.241]

Trace complete.

Maybe the simple solution is to use Hosting365 for my VoIP needs. They seem to have very good connectivity.

MartMax

This is from ntl broadband, located in IFSC.

Tracing route to sip.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 7 ms 37 ms 7 ms 10.7.87.254
2 7 ms 23 ms 27 ms dbln-cam-1a-ge03-103.inet.ntl.com [82.9.146.25]

3 27 ms 6 ms 13 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.5]

4 7 ms 33 ms 11 ms dbln-bb-a-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.53]

5 10 ms 7 ms 9 ms 213.242.106.37
6 20 ms 69 ms 19 ms so-6-0.hsa2.Dublin1.Level3.net [4.68.115.26]
7 54 ms 58 ms 20 ms 213.242.106.14
8 20 ms 43 ms 20 ms hippo.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]

As for boards :

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.136.250]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 30 ms 7 ms 18 ms 10.7.87.254
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms dbln-cam-1b-ge03-103.inet.ntl.com [82.9.147.25]

3 24 ms 17 ms 7 ms dbln-t2core-b-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.12
9]
4 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms dbln-bb-b-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.57]

5 29 ms 8 ms 18 ms inex-ic-1-pos000.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.94]
6 38 ms 13 ms 29 ms fe-0-1-2.core1.dublin2.stisp.net [193.242.111.24
]
7 33 ms 10 ms 11 ms 84.203.130.94
8 31 ms 11 ms 14 ms 84.203.138.118
9 12 ms 13 ms 25 ms 6.150.reserved.hosting365.ie [82.195.150.6]
10 11 ms 43 ms 21 ms boards.ie [82.195.136.250]

bhickey

I have to assume that ye olde BT connection is a well travelled route for many broadband users :

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.136.250]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms <10 ms 192.168.5.1
2 196 ms 16 ms 16 ms bas505.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.241]
3 18 ms 15 ms 18 ms vlan501.rt501.cwt.esat.net [193.95.137.124]
4 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms vlan51.rt001.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.137]
5 16 ms 17 ms 17 ms ge1-0.core002.cwt.esat.net [193.95.129.2]
6 16 ms 19 ms 17 ms pos2-0.br001.inex.esat.net [193.95.131.6]
7 17 ms 18 ms 18 ms panama-inex.hosting365.ie [193.242.111.87]
8 21 ms 20 ms 22 ms corerouter1.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.7]
9 22 ms 21 ms 24 ms boards.ie [82.195.136.250]

Trace complete.

The point is that Clearwire users may have slower connections to many different services. Now if ADSL users have good fast pings to various services and Clearwire users don't then I think that the large majority of Irish broadband users have good speeds and Clearwire users don't. How is that Blueface's problem???

aaronc

Membership application is already in.

Aaron

shabbyroad

for reference (if this helps anyone) using BT 3M line

Tracing route to sip.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms 2 ms 3 ms 192.168.1.1
2 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms bas003.bmt.esat.net [193.95.142.244]
3 16 ms 14 ms 16 ms vlan103.rt002.bmt.esat.net [193.95.142.1]
4 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms ge1-0.core001.bmt.esat.net [193.95.140.17]
5 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms pos3-0.core001.cwt.esat.net [193.95.131.41]
6 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms ge0-0.br001.cwt.esat.net [193.95.129.4]
7 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms 213.242.106.133
8 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 213.242.106.14
9 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms hippo.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]


and to www.boards.ie


Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.136.250]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 192.168.1.1
2 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms bas003.bmt.esat.net [193.95.142.244]
3 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms vlan101.rt001.bmt.esat.net [193.95.141.1]
4 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms ge0-0.core001.bmt.esat.net [193.95.140.1]
5 17 ms 15 ms 17 ms pos3-0.core001.cwt.esat.net [193.95.131.41]
6 24 ms 17 ms 16 ms ge1-0.core002.cwt.esat.net [193.95.129.2]
7 16 ms 18 ms 17 ms pos2-0.br001.inex.esat.net [193.95.131.6]
8 18 ms 18 ms 17 ms panama-inex.hosting365.ie [193.242.111.87]
9 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms corerouter1.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.7]
10 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms boards.ie [82.195.136.250]

Trace complete.

Blaster99

aaronc wrote:

Membership application is already in.

Aaron

You da man. Is there a rough ETA?

WillieFlynn

Just thinking that it might be an idea to email your ISP and ask them to support bluefaces entry into inex and when in to form a peering arangement with them.

aaronc

Blaster99 wrote:

You da man. Is there a rough ETA?

Membership was accepted yesterday. Getting physically connected and peering agreements in place will probably take a few weeks.

Aaron

TempestSabre

For the simple people like me, what will INEX connectivity mean? Less hops, faster connections, and hopefully more reliable connections?

MrPudding

TempestSabre wrote:

For the simple people like me, what will INEX connectivity mean? Less hops, faster connections, and hopefully more reliable connections?

All of the above I should think.

MrP