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Liverpool v united (title changed to protect the innocent)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Davei141 wrote:
    Na this one http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N151504060218-1146.htm

    :p Appears the LFC website doesnt know his name either. :D


    How about this one? http://www.knvb.nl/oranje/selectie/spelers/detail?player_id=20030827124324156


    Your link also has this :

    OTHER HEADLINES
    19/02/06 : Rafa: Paletta can be another Carra
    19/02/06 : Rafa: Let’s make it a hat-trick of great wins
    19/02/06 : Win tickets to next month’s derby
    18/02/06 : Crouch: Scoring the winner is so special
    19/02/06 : Kromkamp confident of Euro progress
    18/02/06 : Benitez dedicates win to supporters
    18/02/06 : Benitez: We’re so sorry for Smith

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    Dr. Nick wrote:
    While your recognition of the obvious is appreciated, what the fcuk is that statement meant to prove?
    You're better off going out of the CL before xmas and be beaten by your bitter rivals in the cup in mid-Feb, but the season's great coz you win the Coca-Cola Cup against Wigan?

    If that what ManU fans have become, we're all fcuked.

    Its embarrasing reading some posts at times. Liverpool beat us, most of us have accepted it and congratulated the decent Pool fans here. But for some reason there is still this shove it in your face attitude.

    Yes Liverpool are still in the FA Cup and Champions League, but at the end of the day, beating United in the cup or not, United, Arsenal and Liverpool are miles behind Chelsea. Were all bickering over whos better but we seem to forget that theres a team 12 points ahead of United, further ahead of Liverpool and further ahead of Arsenal.

    Until thats addressed, were all in trouble lads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Ruskie4Rent


    Lets not fret! Things change quickly in football. Sure chelsea have pretty much won the league but we all start back at zero in september. ManU are not in a decline, they just lost a football match and well done to liverpool for being the better team. I can't imagine ManU will be as poor as they were yesterday for too long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Jonny Arson


    ManU are not in a decline, they just lost a football match and well done to liverpool for being the better team. I can't imagine ManU will be as poor as they were yesterday for too long.

    You seem to have forgot about the Blackburn match, Man City match, Burton match etc. etc. etc. all recently and many many more esp. in the champions league.

    Bottom line is Man Utd are in decline. United are 2nd in the premiership simply on the basis that this season is the weakest premiership season is many a year. There is little depth in the squad, there is little genuine world class talent left in the squad and every signing Ferguson makes these days is mediocre. I certainly can't see Man Utd winning another league title for many years.

    As for the ''hey hey Riise... I wanna know how you broke Smith's leg'' chants.... a proportion of Liverpool's fans seem to be doing everything possible to drag their clubs good name through the mud. Disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa



    Bottom line is Man Utd are in decline. United are 2nd in the premiership simply on the basis that this season is the weakest premiership season is many a year. There is little depth in the squad, there is little genuine world class talent left in the squad and every signing Ferguson makes these days is mediocre. I certainly can't see Man Utd winning another league title for many years.

    United have played this season without Keane, Heinze, Scholes and Giggs and Saha have missed large chunks of the season. Rooney missed big games through injury and suspension,even so we are second in the league.

    Some of the teams we have been forced to put out this season has been shocking, it amazes me how we are second. With Heinze and Scholes back next year plus Vidic and Evra settled in, plus a few new faces, United will imrpove on this season next year.

    It would be interesting to see how other teams would cope with losing their captain, one of their best midfielders and one of their best defenders.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Its embarrasing reading some posts at times. Liverpool beat us, most of us have accepted it and congratulated the decent Pool fans here. But for some reason there is still this shove it in your face attitude.
    Agreed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭fade2black


    You should probably walk away from this one WMJ...the man utd are in decline brigade (almost all of whom support a team that are below united in the league) are not going to stop. Most of them prefer being anti-supporters of United than supporters of their won team anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭Drag00n79


    Its embarrasing reading some posts at times. Liverpool beat us, most of us have accepted it and congratulated the decent Pool fans here. But for some reason there is still this shove it in your face attitude.
    I wish some manu fans would get off their high horses. How you can accuse us of having a 'shove it in your face' attitude after the antics of your captain in the previous match is simply beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    Shamrok wrote:
    I wish some manu fans would get off their high horses. How you can accuse us of having a 'shove it in your face' attitude after the antics of your captain in the previous match is simply beyond me.

    I defended Neville at the time, but in hindsight I thought he took it too far and he deserves whatever punishment he gets. Carragher throw a coin in the crowd but that doesnt mean I am going to bring it up here to win an argument. However if you read my posts I am talking about the fact that despite this general agreement that Liverpool deserved the win, there is still this provoking going on.

    Why cant some fans accept the humility of others?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    What does decline mean?
    Do you mean the team is worse, or that the placings are worse.

    Placing wise United are in decline, full stop, no doubt about it.

    Team wise, United are not in decline, have one of their better teams over the last ten years, and thats proven by the points they are on right now, compared to the previous points they were on over the last seasons. Full stop.

    That is of course just in the league, and the CL this year was a disaster, but does anybody think that it will happen again next year? Anybody? FA CUp 5th round loss to Liverpool hurts, but it isn't exactly unfeasible.

    So basicially are United in decline because

    League Points - No
    FA Cup - No
    League Cup - No
    League Position - Yes
    CL Knockout - Yes

    On those two last yeses.
    League position means everybody is in decline, because Chelsea have raised the bar so high.
    CL Knockout was bad, but once again, does anyone think it'll happen again next year?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭Drag00n79


    Carragher throw a coin in the crowd but that doesnt mean I am going to bring it up here to win an argument.
    I don't understand why this is even being brought by you. Apart from the fact that you are digging up something that occured four seasons ago, I cannot see the similarity with what Neville did. I do not condone what Carragher did, but it was a reflex reaction to a physical attack on him, for which he was rightly sent off. Neville's actions on the otherhand were much more premeditated — running eighty yards to incite opposition fans. I would not have posted this but I felt I had to after you digging up the Carragher incident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    Shamrok wrote:
    I don't understand why this is even being brought by you. Apart from the fact that you are digging up something that occured four seasons ago, I cannot see the similarity with what Neville did. I do not condone what Carragher did, but it was a reflex reaction to a physical attack on him, for which he was rightly sent off. Neville's actions on the otherhand were much more premeditated — running eighty yards to incite opposition fans. I would not have posted this but I felt I had to after you digging up the Carragher incident.

    I was talking about the reaction of some Pool fans and you used Nevilles incident to try prove my points invalid. Nevilles incident has nothing to do with my points. Now if you are going to try act like your sh*t dont stink and pretend that Nevilles reaction is something that horrified innocent Pool fans, I am going to refer to Carraghers incident and Fowlers sniffing of the line to counter your defense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭Drag00n79


    I am going to refer to Carraghers incident and Fowlers sniffing of the line to counter your defense.
    Unfortunately for you it doesn't though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    every signing Ferguson makes these days is mediocre.
    Yeah, that Rooney fella should be in the Conference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭tibor


    As for the ''hey hey Riise... I wanna know how you broke Smith's leg'' chants.... a proportion of Liverpool's fans seem to be doing everything possible to drag their clubs good name through the mud. Disgusting.

    Those chants pretty much ended when the medics were on and everyone realised how serious it was. He was applauded off the pitch ffs.

    What was rather disgusting were the United supporters constant chants about Hillborough, Heysel and Michael Shields.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Whats disgusting is certain "journalists" leaving out the fact that liverpool players went over to smith, liverpool medics, and as the guy above me said, fans applauded him off the pitch. It seems zane missed the match and only read the News of the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Woot.
    Deserved win by us. Have to say I was well surprised with Fergie's team selection with Park and Smith on the bench. Surely both are superior to both Fletcher and Richardson.
    Bad decision on the management side tbh which cost Utd given our midfield dominated for the 90 mins.

    Coulda/woulda/shoulda been a penalty > giggs foul on harry but thats the way it goes.

    Rooney wasn't at the races at all. Did he even touch the ball second half?
    All I remember from the first was him hurting himself tackling harry.

    Solid goal by Crouch given Harry was unlucky with his header moments before but great save by VdS. Nice to see Hyypia follow up Crouchs header just to be sure :)

    Poor Smith tho. Didn't see so bad initially but on the replays and todays papers *shudder*
    Broken leg & dislocated ankle.
    Best case: 8 months++; Worst: wont play again.

    Am I the only one here who thought Sissoko was somewhat poor? I mean he did get stuck in but more than enough times did he win possession only to give the bloody ball away again.
    Fine yday when Utd couldn't do anything when they did have the ball but against a better team who knows.
    Harry, Didi, Stevie, Luis in the centre with Mori and Crouch.

    Pity Robbie was cup tied :) He'd have had fun yday :v:

    MoM: Finnan. Ronaldo got nothing from him and he was unlucky with his shot.

    Ftr, 85 years it may have been, but there was only 7 games between the teams in that period.
    Spouting 85 years blah blah blah is irrelevant.

    All in all, thought it was a good game but not a classic.

    Been a long while since there was a great soccer game live. CL final last year perhaps is the most recent I can think of.

    GG Rafa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭DaBreno


    Come on, Own up : who threw their burger at Neville yesterday?
    (It had about one bite taken out of it) :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Ruskie4Rent


    As for the ''hey hey Riise... I wanna know how you broke Smith's leg'' chants.... a proportion of Liverpool's fans seem to be doing everything possible to drag their clubs good name through the mud. Disgusting.
    Jesus, didn't hear that one. The liverpool fans are great for coming up with chants on the spot but this is not the most tasteful one i've heard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,070 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Anyone got highlights uploaded?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Dr. Nick wrote:
    Yeah, where was that luck EXACTLY? (Don't do the Murinho thing please, if it didn't go over, it was a penalty and keeper sent off)

    Bayern were UNlucky in '99 final (one up, controlled the game, hit the crossbar......). The other team weren't lucky.....

    Most-times you make your luck....Google Gary Player's most famous quote.

    :rolleyes: I didn't mean anything specific, i just meant everyone knows Liverpool are the best team in europe so they were lucky to win it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    The ball hit his right leg, his left leg is the one that broke.
    You are joking, are'nt you? The ball hit his left leg, just above the ankle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Dr. Nick


    Tusky wrote:
    Anyone got highlights uploaded?

    There were only three, the BBC showed somr highlights a few minutes ago:

    - Goal by Crouch
    - Miss by Finnan
    - Giggs foul on Harriet for the 'penalty' (not shown)
    - Giggs shot way over (not a highlight, but the good old BEEB had to show Utd. doing something in the game)
    - Smith's break


    Yes, it's true, ManU had no chances to score.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Hobart wrote:
    You are joking, are'nt you? The ball hit his left leg, just above the ankle.



    Thought the ball hit his right leg, and he landed awkwardly(sp) on his left leg which caused the break and dislocation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Hobart wrote:
    You are joking, are'nt you? The ball hit his left leg, just above the ankle.


    Ball hit right leg [he lunged with his right leg] and his trailing left leg got caught or whatever is the one that broke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭LostinBlanch


    Hobart wrote:
    You are joking, are'nt you? The ball hit his left leg, just above the ankle.

    Hmmm well it didn't take long for the myths to start. Riise broke Smiths leg with a shot (yeah right). If your knowledge of football is as bad as your "memory" then you are definitely one to ignore. I don't normally get this angry but reading through 16 pages of this crap and despite the fact that you have been corrected (even by other Pool fans) you still trot this rubbish out.

    I tell you what, let you put your money where your mouth is. I bet you €1000 that on an independent viewing of the incident you will find that Smith blocked the shot with his right leg and that he fell awkwardly on his left (trailing) leg. This is the one that was injured. So I repeat it happened to his trailing leg and not the one he blocked the shot with.

    I doubt you are man enough to take up the bet, as you would be throwing a €1000 away. But if on the offchance you do take this up then I will let you know that the money will be going to Jamie Turner the United Fan that was beaten up at Southampton last year and spent two months in a coma. That money will go towards funding an operation to have part of his skull replaced. The following is a quote from a family representative:

    "The operation will mean a week in hospital if there are no complications, but the consultant warned us last week that the skin can become stuck onto the brain and pulling it off to replace his skull may cause brain cells to be destroyed, causing bleeding and a stroke. Obviously the longer he waits for the operation, the more chance of this happening and him suffering further brain damage."

    Now that should show that you are so blinkered you can't see the truth when it's right in front of you; and that there are more important things than point scoring off other fans.

    PS if you or anyone else want to pm me regarding a donation to Jamies operation I will gladly put you in touch with the right people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭blu_sonic


    any uploads on the break and burger incident


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Hobart wrote:
    You are joking, are'nt you? The ball hit his left leg, just above the ankle.

    it actually hit his right leg, i think :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭galwaydude


    lads it doesnt matter how he got injured.

    Fair play to the liverpool fans who are sending well wished to alan smith. He got in touch with liverpoolfc.tv and thanked cisse, the liverpool doctor and fans as he was brought off the pitch on the stretcher. Lets hope he makes a full recovery.

    http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/Forum15/HTML/070990.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Hmmm well it didn't take long for the myths to start. Riise broke Smiths leg with a shot (yeah right). If your knowledge of football is as bad as your "memory" then you are definitely one to ignore. I don't normally get this angry but reading through 16 pages of this crap and despite the fact that you have been corrected (even by other Pool fans) you still trot this rubbish out.

    I tell you what, let you put your money where your mouth is. I bet you €1000 that on an independent viewing of the incident you will find that Smith blocked the shot with his right leg and that he fell awkwardly on his left (trailing) leg. This is the one that was injured. So I repeat it happened to his trailing leg and not the one he blocked the shot with.

    I doubt you are man enough to take up the bet, as you would be throwing a €1000 away. But if on the offchance you do take this up then I will let you know that the money will be going to Jamie Turner the United Fan that was beaten up at Southampton last year and spent two months in a coma. That money will go towards funding an operation to have part of his skull replaced. The following is a quote from a family representative:

    "The operation will mean a week in hospital if there are no complications, but the consultant warned us last week that the skin can become stuck onto the brain and pulling it off to replace his skull may cause brain cells to be destroyed, causing bleeding and a stroke. Obviously the longer he waits for the operation, the more chance of this happening and him suffering further brain damage."

    Now that should show that you are so blinkered you can't see the truth when it's right in front of you; and that there are more important things than point scoring off other fans.

    PS if you or anyone else want to pm me regarding a donation to Jamies operation I will gladly put you in touch with the right people.


    :rolleyes: getting a little carried away are we?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Mark


    Crouch goal

    Smith break 28.9MB
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    smith27zw.jpg
    smith31vg.jpg
    Smithy.jpg

    *highfives JoeSoap*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Hehehehe :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB



    Yes, it's true, ManU had no chances to score.

    United had one really good chance to score, when Saha missed, or just clipped, a header from a decent cross from Neville, and really shoulda done better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,468 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Hobart wrote:
    You are joking, are'nt you? The ball hit his left leg, just above the ankle.

    by the look of the replay it does indeed catch his left leg, but thats not what caused the break ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    Hmmm well it didn't take long for the myths to start. Riise broke Smiths leg with a shot (yeah right). If your knowledge of football is as bad as your "memory" then you are definitely one to ignore. I don't normally get this angry but reading through 16 pages of this crap and despite the fact that you have been corrected (even by other Pool fans) you still trot this rubbish out.

    I tell you what, let you put your money where your mouth is. I bet you €1000 that on an independent viewing of the incident you will find that Smith blocked the shot with his right leg and that he fell awkwardly on his left (trailing) leg. This is the one that was injured. So I repeat it happened to his trailing leg and not the one he blocked the shot with.

    I doubt you are man enough to take up the bet, as you would be throwing a €1000 away. But if on the offchance you do take this up then I will let you know that the money will be going to Jamie Turner the United Fan that was beaten up at Southampton last year and spent two months in a coma. That money will go towards funding an operation to have part of his skull replaced. The following is a quote from a family representative:

    "The operation will mean a week in hospital if there are no complications, but the consultant warned us last week that the skin can become stuck onto the brain and pulling it off to replace his skull may cause brain cells to be destroyed, causing bleeding and a stroke. Obviously the longer he waits for the operation, the more chance of this happening and him suffering further brain damage."

    Now that should show that you are so blinkered you can't see the truth when it's right in front of you; and that there are more important things than point scoring off other fans.

    PS if you or anyone else want to pm me regarding a donation to Jamies operation I will gladly put you in touch with the right people.
    Have a look at the downloads before you make more of a fool of yourself. Your acting like a fu*king prima donna and I suspect that there maybe a couple of cans of dutch gold involved.

    I will take you up on that €1,000 and give you 5/1 on it. Lets see who is man enough now. I'll wait to hear from you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    by the look of the replay it does indeed catch his left leg, but thats not what caused the break ;)
    I'm not saying it did. I would wager it contributed to the dislocation though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    In all fairness, like him or not, like them or not, it was a horrific break and nobody deserves that. Best of luck to Smith hope he gets back on the pitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,690 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    Without a doubt this is the worst United midfield in 20 years. Only beating that team 1-0 is disappointing from a Liverpool perspective. Still not creating enough chances given how they totally owned midfield.

    Smith must have been still struggling for fitness or playing poor himself in training, not to have been on from the start. Very unfortuante injury, and I wish him a speedy recovery. The injury also deflects attention away from the ineptitude of United on the day. They were just as bad as Arsenal were last week.

    The question for Liverpool is will Sissoko or Hamann make way for Alonso (expected to be fit) for Tuesday. I fancy he might stick Alonso on the bench. Hopefully Fowler will start alongside Crouch, but I won't hold my breath - he'll probably stick with Moro, and if he doesnt I'd fancy he'll pick Garcia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Looks like it was the landing, rather than the shot, which did him.

    from
    http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=306619&itype=466&icategoryid=120

    "Smith suffered the shocking setback as he landed awkwardly when trying to block a John Arne Riise shot in United's 1-0 FA Cup defeat against Liverpool at Anfield.

    The nature of the 25-year-old's landing caused his left ankle to buckle and dislocate, the force of which subsequently broke his leg."


    I hope he's up and about as soon as. I'm a 'Pool fan, wouldn't wish that on anyone. If nothing else, it's more satisfying to beat a full strength team :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Chelsea fan myself and as said in an earlier post all the best to him and I hope he does get back playing. Injury killed my football and as a result I wouldn't wish it on any man.

    Its quite sad though the depths that some scum will go to as a sections of Anfield started chanting while he was down. "John Arne Riise, I wanna know how you broke his leg" - Some of the liverpool fans really showing their class there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    in fairness, I think a lot of people stopped that chant once they realised how bad the injury was, but that's no excuse. Obviously, I'd prefer to reflect on the round of applause he got leaving the pitch - he's acknowledged that himself. It's only a game at the end of the day, I think most fans would like a good game, played in good heart, and a fair result, win or lose. maybe I'm just living in a dreamworld tho!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭gracehopper


    United were VERY poor on Saturday. I was really dissapointed with the performance. Fergie was beaten when liverpool got the early goal and they never really looked like coming back after that. Liverpool were excellent in the centre of the park. Hamann is still a quality player. While taking nothing away from pools midfield i think Alan Smith hoppin around on one foot would have done better than Fletcher. I know he's only 21 but Jesus, he is rubbish!.

    From a football point of view, Crouch impressively lost his man for the header and gave United grief pretty much for the whole time he was on.

    So a deserved win for liverpool. Fergie had no reply to the early goal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,163 ✭✭✭ZENER


    Congratulations to Liverpool on their win over an understrength Man United side. Poor game to watch from a united fans POV but as soon as I saw our team sheet I conceded defeat the only thing in my mind was how many would we lose by. In this respect 'pool disappointed somewhat, in the latter part of the game I actually thought we might just clinch an equaliser, then Smith went down with that horrific injury.

    With so much control of the mid-field how come Liverpool didn't capitalise more ? Was the Neville incident stuck in their heads, were they so traumatised by it that it made them defend more to prevent United scoring so there wouldn't be a repeat opportunity . . please . . was it heck as like. 'Pool fans are content to beat United and claim a moral victory over those terrible people who support united and who support what Neville did. What Neville did was to display passion for his club, what the pool supporters was to display themselves as small minded delicate hypocrits.

    On a positive note for united fans, who here witnessed the wondergoal from young Eagles in his game on Saturday? For those who missed it think back to Beck's first goal - the half-way line - this was a carbon copy except the goalie was nearer the goal as were 2 defenders who still couldn't sop it !!! The way he got under the ball made me think that this kid will be the next United right sided MF. Get rid of that donkey Ronaldo and take Eagles back !!

    ZEN


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    ZENER wrote:
    Congratulations to Liverpool on their win over an understrength Man United side. Poor game to watch from a united fans POV but as soon as I saw our team sheet I conceded defeat the only thing in my mind was how many would we lose by.

    Oh give it a rest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭redspider


    I saw all of the match bit didnt have the time to write up a "short" posting on this thread until now.

    Yet another close encounter between Liverpool and Man Utd. These games will never be 5-4 thrillers whilst there is so much at stake and neither team wants to lose. Neither team were going for all out attack. Liverpool clearly had the stronger midfield and created most of the scoring chances, but it was not total domination. Liverpool were weak up-front, nothing new there, and Man Utd were weak in midfield. Giggs seemed to be harried constantly and was never allowed to settle on the ball in midfield. A tactic I would say which was purposely deployed by Benitez.

    Gerrard played well and didnt go over the top. Liverpool on this occasion were the team to break the deadlock, Crouch stooping down to get a header in the box, a ball in from Finnan who had a brilliant game I thought. Vidic, who seems a tad slow in reaction at time lost Crouch so a free header from about 12 yards out. Van der Saar who a few moments before had saved brilliantly from Kewell from a shorter range just couldnt keep it out.

    Liverpool created most of the chances in the 1st half, and should have scored in the 2nd, when Crouch had a chance after a hesitant Vidic allowed him in. But Man Utd came more into the game. Clearly with Rooney and Van Nistelrooy, they had the more potent attack force, but Hyppia was lapping up every high ball and Carra was as strong as he usually is, and Hamann was spritley and timely with his interceptions and tackles. Sissoko, was his usual all-legs and its a style I'm not in favour of but it was instrumental in winning ball on Saturday.

    Morientes should as usual have done better and his reaction time is still woeful. Cisse didnt get a chance to run, Garcia did ok when he came on and Kewell had one of his better games. Gerrard as usual was immense, perhaps should have come inside more and popped a few shots off himself and forget about trying to bring-in the forwards into the play with one-two's. Just better to go ahead and do it himself. He has the capability. Riise also good, Reina was safe althouth the goalmouth muddle with Finnan could have gone terribly wrong ala Alonso a few weeks ago.

    A great win for Liverpool given the context, which I find it hard to beleive in that it is so long since Liverpool beat Man Utd in the cup. I realised they were a bogey team in this competition, but is it really so long? I must trawl through the records.

    As for Smith's bad injury, unfortunate for the player. He has been trying very hard to play in midfield for Man Utd, and lets be honest here, this is not his natural position, and to have a self-inflicted accidental injury like that as a result of his extended efforts is terrible for him. I felt for him as his face went white and his body reacted to the break with adrenalin, endorphins, etc. I had the same with an arm a few years ago and a break is something to be avoided. There were some comments on the fans reaction but all fans once they realise its a break would not have given him a hard time. Fans at matches have a worse view than those watching so had no idea how sever it was. However, I'm sure there were very few tears shed in Leeds over it given Smith's method of exit there.

    Btw, I read the article on the game in the Sunday Times and it was the biggest load of myopic "scrotum passengers" that I have ever read. You can never believe what you read in papers reports, etc, which is why its always a) important to watch a match yourself in full and live and without drug influence (eg: alcohol) b) re-watch all the important items in slow-mo 10 times if necessary to adjust your judgements. Hands-up who did that over the weekend. (I know I didnt !)

    redspider


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    redspider wrote:
    I saw all of the match bit didnt have the time to write up a "short" posting on this thread until now.

    redspider

    LOL " Short Post" I think I'll sell my telly.;)


    ZENER wrote:
    On a positive note for united fans, who here witnessed the wondergoal from young Eagles in his game on Saturday? For those who missed it think back to Beck's first goal - the half-way line - this was a carbon copy except the goalie was nearer the goal as were 2 defenders who still couldn't sop it !!! The way he got under the ball made me think that this kid will be the next United right sided MF. Get rid of that donkey Ronaldo and take Eagles back !!

    ZEN

    Anyone got a clip of this? I still havn't seen it .


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    All these guys moaning about Liverpool fans giving smyth stick,get your facts right.
    They gave him stick when he went down at first,same as any player gets at any ground.
    Once they realised it was serious they stopped and the whole stadium stood up and applauded him off the field.
    Thats what i saw and heard on tv and its what my brother saw at the game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭fade2black


    Dcully wrote:
    All these guys moaning about Liverpool fans giving smyth stick,get your facts right.
    They gave him stick when he went down at first,same as any player gets at any ground.
    Once they realised it was serious they stopped and the whole stadium stood up and applauded him off the field.
    Thats what i saw and heard on tv and its what my brother saw at the game.

    And that's what's already been mentioned a dozen times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    Dcully wrote:
    All these guys moaning about Liverpool fans giving smyth stick,get your facts right.
    They gave him stick when he went down at first,same as any player gets at any ground.
    Once they realised it was serious they stopped and the whole stadium stood up and applauded him off the field.
    Thats what i saw and heard on tv and its what my brother saw at the game.
    And that's what happened. It seems it's the only thing that some fans have to critise Liverpool's fans about.

    This is despite that all the backroom staff at Manu and Alan Smith himself, have acknoledged the fans positive reaction to Smith when he was carried off. I don't think a single football fan here has had a negative view of the incident.


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