Who would go to see brokeback mountain?

connundrum

If you aren't attracted to the movie by the trailer, then don't go see the film.. simple as.

I didn't see anyone posting here "Why the hell would you go see xXx 2?!".. although I wish people had :rolleyes: As that was the biggest pile of doo doo ever x 10!

The reason for posting here was cos of the gayness involved, and you have to understand that you're simply punching the air here. No one is making you watch it, and no one is asking for your opinion on it. You felt the need to bring yourself into the discussion - wonder why

finlma

By posting this thread and putting up the argument you have you're just coming across as a bigotted homophobe.

There's gay kssing in the Full Mounty and probably numerous other films I just can't think of - does it mean you won't be watching those?

Pigman II

I don't want to see it purely because it's an Ang Lee film.

Now on the other hand if George Lucas made a film about a couple of gay Stormtroopers getting in touch with their feelings to the backdrop of the Clone Wars I'd be there on opening night with my purple lightsabre held proudly in my tight fist.

monkeyfudge

Pigman II wrote:

I don't want to see it purely because it's an Ang Lee film.

Now on the other hand if George Lucas made a film about a couple of gay Stormtroopers getting in touch with their feelings to the backdrop of the Clone Wars I'd be there on opening night with my purple lightsabre held proudly in my tight fist.

Do clones count as incest?

BuffyBot

This thread makes for some very depressing reading..

seamus

No offence Buffy, but watching you and a male cohort schmoozing wouldn't be my idea of entertainment.
Of course, watching anyone schmoozing isn't my idea of entertainment, unless it's a very hot girl I don't know, or just two very hot girls.

Watching a love scene between two men, is for me about as appealing as watching a love scene between my brother and his girlfriend. This isn't homophobia, it's a matter of tastes.

Pigman II

monkeyfudge wrote:

Do clones count as incest?

I think it'd be closer to masturbation.

Siogfinsceal

its one of those films that gets nominated for an oscar because they chose a subject thats taboo - it wrecks my head - if this film was about a man and a woman it wouldnt be noticed. but make a film about 2 gay cowboys and the oscars committee will be all over you. same with boys dont cry and transamerica - make a film about transexuals and your all set

TerrorFirmer

oops double post

TerrorFirmer

finlma wrote:

By posting this thread and putting up the argument you have you're just coming across as a bigotted homophobe.

There's gay kssing in the Full Mounty and probably numerous other films I just can't think of - does it mean you won't be watching those?

I don't think he's coming across as a bigotted homophobe. In fact, that makes you a bigot as well - do you know what a bigot is? It's someone who refuses to see someone elses point. This guy has his own opinion and is well entitled to it and refusing to just say oh well, thats his opinion as opposed to telling him hes a homophobe, is bigotted!

For the record, I wouldn't even consider going to see Brokeback mountain, but not because it's about gay cowboys - simply because it doesn't interest me in the slightest. It wouldn't interest me if it was about a man and a woman either, perhaps actually even less so if that were the case to be honest because at least Brokeback gets your attention and says "hey, I'm different". It's because it's a drama, a drama with romance, and that genre doesn't appeal to me in the slightest, regardless of who or what is in it.

Brokeback Mountain, for me personally, doesn't not come across as any sort of a "gay iconic" film or anything of the sort, just what seems to be a rather unique movie with a good cast, a well estabhlished director, but that just doesn't appeal to my movie tastes at all and for that reason, and that reason alone, I wouldn't go to see it.

I forecast myself seeing it someday in the not so distant future with the girlfriend on a Sunday afternoon and who knows, I may even enjoy it.

Tar.Aldarion

I heard you went with rsynnott and amp?
:v:

Hugh Hefner

Siogfinsceal wrote:

its one of those films that gets nominated for an oscar because they chose a subject thats taboo - it wrecks my head - if this film was about a man and a woman it wouldnt be noticed. but make a film about 2 gay cowboys and the oscars committee will be all over you. same with boys dont cry and transamerica - make a film about transexuals and your all set

So, you won't believe that the film is actually good and deserves the nominations/awards it's getting? Well this is a deserving film so...


People can say that jimmy was just sharing his opinion and that's all it is, he's not being homophobic. But when you have quotes like...

jimmycrackcorn wrote:

I mean unless you are actually gay - would you go to see a film about two gay cowboys?

... he just comes across as a hateful person whose "opinions" are just prejudice. And I think that's what people aren't liking about his attitude. I don't think anyone would have a problem with someone avoiding B.M. 'cos they don't like the idea of seeing gay sex (e.g. Seamus) or because it just doesn't appeal to them (e.g. HavoK). They're perfectly reasonable and aren't offensive, but jimmy seems to just dislike gay people. And in my book that's not cool.

Terry

meh. i'll just wait for it to be shown on sky. at least i can change the channel if it bores me.

Wacker

Siogfinsceal wrote:

its one of those films that gets nominated for an oscar because they chose a subject thats taboo - it wrecks my head - if this film was about a man and a woman it wouldnt be noticed. but make a film about 2 gay cowboys and the oscars committee will be all over you. same with boys dont cry and transamerica - make a film about transexuals and your all set

TWhile I see the point that you are trying to make, it doesn't really make sense when you see the film. Brokeback Mountain is not really about two men falling in love. It is about them tryin g to deal with what happened to them on the mountain in later life. It could not possibly be about a man and a woman because if it were a regular relationship, there would be no problem. They could just shack up together. The film is about them trying to deal with the impossiblity of their situation.

So it could only be done with two men.

Terry

Wacker wrote:

TWhile I see the point that you are trying to make, it doesn't really make sense when you see the film. Brokeback Mountain is not really about two men falling in love. It is about them tryin g to deal with what happened to them on the mountain in later life. It could not possibly be about a man and a woman because if it were a regular relationship, there would be no problem. They could just shack up together. The film is about them trying to deal with the impossiblity of their situation.

So it could only be done with two men.

sounds like i'll be changing the channel then.

Wacker

Well, if you don't like the sound of it, you're probably right to stay away. I thought the first bit (when they're on the mountain) could have been executed better. However, there was some searing intensity and emotion in the rest. I enjoyed the movie.

BTW, why is thread in After Hours? There is a perfectly good film forum.

Heyes

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

Absolutley amazing reply. Indeed I must be shallow!

There are 16 films listed at my local cinema. Naturally I like most people have loads of free time to go see all and can't distinguish which I should go to see with my limited free time. Perhaps I am also shallow and silly for not going see chicken little.

But If I had posted about that instead I would already note that i won't go see that because I'm not a kid?

Can you get the point yet heyes?

I get your point very clearly, however the reason i called you shallow was because you were been shallow, you came across as kinda repulsed and suprised by the subject matter. My opinion is that everyone is entitled to there own opinion and way of life, what i said was my opinion and what you said was yours....end of !

shuushh

your a self admitted homphobe so i suggest you stay away from it however the majority of us have gotten over it at this stage so the sight of two men kissing doesnt shock or repel us in anyway,really its a bit like a self admitted racist coming onto boards and asking whats all the fuss about this spike lee fella

ts one of those films that gets nominated for an oscar because they chose a subject thats taboo - it wrecks my head - if this film was about a man and a woman it wouldnt be noticed. but make a film about 2 gay cowboys and the oscars committee will be all over you. same with boys dont cry and transamerica - make a film about transexuals and your all set

but the relationship between a man and a woman is completley different than the relationship between two closet gay cowboys, their mindstate is different, the values they were brought up with are different, the characters are completley different.

i went to see nakedness there was very little mostly it was incomfortable to watch and got boring after a while
even if it had have been about a straight couple i would have lost interest

Terry

coolsmileygirl wrote:

i went to see nakedness there was very little mostly it was incomfortable to watch and got boring after a while
even if it had have been about a straight couple i would have lost interest

OMG!!11!1!!one
ur a gay hater!! :eek:

Heyes

julep wrote:

OMG!!11!1!!one
ur a gay hater!! :eek:

Eh she said it would nt have made any difference if it was a gay scene or straight scene, so how is she a hater ?

LookingFor

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

But as a straight guy I'm not interested in going to a film about two cowboys kissing.

If you want you can close your eyes when they kiss. I promise you, your eyes will be closed for less than 5 minutes of the movie. There's more straight sex in this movie than gay - and there isn't a whole lot of sex either way.

It's an excellently crafted movie. It's nothing to do with hollywood politics, hollywood has come down hard on some recent gay-themed movies, or movies with gay characters, and rightly so because they were crap. This one isn't.

Something tells me it'll do a lot better on DVD than even its (admittedly very good) cinema takings suggest. Though the showing I was at was a very mixed - and big - crowd.

Tar.Aldarion

Heyes wrote:

Eh she said it would nt have made any difference if it was a gay scene or straight scene, so how is she a hater ?

jokes get me.

you were been shallow

That just hurts.

Hydroquinone

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

If what they showed is the same as the trailers and other clips I've seen then I can only conclude that this film appeals to women and gay people - both highly emotional sections of society.

WHAT????? They're allowed to make films that appeal to people who aren't you?
Quick! Call the Gards.
:rolleyes:

Anyway, last time I checked, women and gays and people who weren't you were allowed to go to the cinema. Revelation or wot?

If you don't want to see it then don't go. How hard is that?
I'm sure Ang Lee won't miss your €8.50

the_syco

RuggieBear wrote:

but imo it is homophobic not to go to it on the sole basis that heath ledger and jake gllynhael (sp?) snog/hug/get it on/shag. I mean how is that not homophobic...?

So... wots your excuse for not going to see a porno? No plot, or are ye a homophobe?

monkeyfudge wrote:

Do clones count as incest?

No. Even though they are "brothers in arms", they'te not actually brothers. They're the same. So it's closer to **** ones self, as they are all cloned from the same dude, so even though two clones would bw **** the other, as they're clones, in essense they'd be **** themselves.

LookingFor wrote:

Something tells me it'll do a lot better on DVD than even its (admittedly very good) cinema takings suggest. Though the showing I was at was a very mixed - and big - crowd.

Why? Cos you think the closet gays will watch it:p

=-=

Dudess and Wacker are the only ones so far to post about the actual film itself, saying what its about, and not just flaming the OP for not watching it. The OP asked why he should watch it, and he gets flamed by the PC Police.

Terry

Heyes wrote:

Eh she said it would nt have made any difference if it was a gay scene or straight scene, so how is she a hater ?

it was sarcasm.
i thought the OMG!!!111 part gave that away.

for future reference, if you ever see me using the letters "ur" in a post that isn't about ancient cities, then you can be guaranteed that it is me being sarcastic. i like to take advantage of the 10,000 character limit and the keyboard in front of me.

Rb

Hmm, so you guys will gladly sit down and watch gay guys prancing around a football pitch in short shorts, hugging and kissing each other(on the cheek), sometimes mounting each other from behind when they manage to get a ball into a net, but you won't go see Brokeback Mountain.....interesting....

Heyes

julep wrote:

it was sarcasm.
i thought the OMG!!!111 part gave that away.

for future reference, if you ever see me using the letters "ur" in a post that isn't about ancient cities, then you can be guaranteed that it is me being sarcastic. i like to take advantage of the 10,000 character limit and the keyboard in front of me.

Okay my mistake, apologies

Terry

rb_ie wrote:

Hmm, so you guys will gladly sit down and watch gay guys prancing around a football pitch in short shorts, hugging and kissing each other(on the cheek), sometimes mouting each other from behind when they manage to get a ball into a net, but you won't go see Brokeback Mountain.....interesting....

suspected gay footballers.
you don't want to be sued, do you?

that is something which has always amused me.

heyes, no problem. sometimes sarcasm can be hard to detect in print form.

RuggieBear

the_syco wrote:

So... wots your excuse for not going to see a porno? No plot, or are ye a homophobe?

i don't get you.....

biko

5 pages on this cr@p... When the Olympics is on!

Terry

yep. nothing says "gay" like wearing a leotard and pinning your balls back.

Supercell

Am sure its a great tale of two guys that want to get close.

Am not a homophobe, and don't want to see this movie either, gay love just doesnt interest me.

The Fool

A Chicks flick is a Chicks flick no matter what gloss you put onit.
I wouldn't want to see a Sandra Bullock movie

Does that make me racist against Brunnette American women who can't act?

Terry

jimmy doesn't want to see brokeback mountain and i don't care.

The Hummer

I watch about 45 minutes of it last night. My god did that film really get awards?

Davei141

rb_ie wrote:

Hmm, so you guys will gladly sit down and watch gay guys prancing around a football pitch in short shorts, hugging and kissing each other(on the cheek), sometimes mouting each other from behind when they manage to get a ball into a net, but you won't go see Brokeback Mountain.....interesting....

Big difference, football is entertaining.

jimmycrackcorm

People can say that jimmy was just sharing his opinion and that's all it is, he's not being homophobic. But when you have quotes like...


Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmycrackcorn
I mean unless you are actually gay - would you go to see a film about two gay cowboys? DeQuote

... he just comes across as a hateful person whose "opinions" are just prejudice. And I think that's what people aren't liking about his attitude. I don't think anyone would have a problem with someone avoiding B.M. 'cos they don't like the idea of seeing gay sex (e.g. Seamus) or because it just doesn't appeal to them (e.g. HavoK). They're perfectly reasonable and aren't offensive, but jimmy seems to just dislike gay people. And in my book that's not cool.

I'm at a loss to understand how you magically jumped over the moon to come to the conclusion that I dislike Gay people simply for asking who the film appeals to. How is Seamus not anti-gay if he doesn't like seeing gay sex scenes? No doubt if the actors had been black you would be coming to the conclusion that I would be racist also.

This film is likely to win a lot of awards at the Oscars but I think it is a bit like the Bush re-election - it may win but not by way of the popular vote.

It is the hype surrounding this film that annoys me and I'm getting straight to the point in asking the question. It's a very topical question because of the hyped gay factor otherwise I'd be asking who would go to see Bridget Jones apart from women and anyone else who likes to wears tents for knickers.

Rb

Davei141 wrote:

Big difference, football is entertaining.

Sure

Capt'n Midnight

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

My question is who the hell would watch it. I mean unless you are actually gay - would you go to see a film about two gay cowboys?

Is this just a case of the film industry congratulating itself rather than a film actually being good?

Here is one that is worth watching http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064665/ - is BB as good ?

Hugh Hefner

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

I'm at a loss to understand how you magically jumped over the moon to come to the conclusion that I dislike Gay people simply for asking who the film appeals to. How is Seamus not anti-gay if he doesn't like seeing gay sex scenes?

Because you're blatantly insulting gay people and coming across as though you treat them as some lower model of human I "jumped over the moon to come to the conclusion" that you dislike gay people. Seamus is not being anti-gay because he just doesn't enjoy watching men have sex. Which is perfectly reasonable. You on the other hand seem to dislike these characters as people.

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

No doubt if the actors had been black you would be coming to the conclusion that I would be racist also.

Well if you're motive for not seeing the film was simply "because they are black" then yes. Yes I probably would. Would that be a moon jump to racism? I don't think so.




Wait... jimmycrackcorm? Did I quote you as being called jmmycrackcorn? Crap. My appy-polly-logies.

Archeron

The Fool wrote:

A Chicks flick is a Chicks flick no matter what gloss you put onit.
I wouldn't want to see a Sandra Bullock movie

Does that make me racist against Brunnette American women who can't act?

Yes, I'm afraid so. Its called "brunamericawomecantactaphobia". I can recommend a specialist who can help with that if you're interested. I only developed this illness after Speed 2.