Magnet Broadband Pass

The Real B-man · 22-02-2006 2:42am #1

Hmm im puzzled my line passed for Magnet Broadband or is this just a sales gimmick that my line will eventully pass?

marsdelight · 22-02-2006 2:44am

No, you passed. The entertainment thing is different. TV etc i think

Irishpimpdude · 22-02-2006 2:45am

I dont know they said 6 months to me around 3 months ago now its 3...

We will be in your area with our full suite
of Magnet Entertainment
services in 3 months.
In the meantime, we can offer you Magnet Broadband
which provides you
with 2 Meg broadband.
Please click here to register your details or alternatively
call us on 1890 53 53 53.

The Real B-man · 22-02-2006 2:53am

marsdelight wrote:

No, you passed. The entertainment thing is different. TV etc i think

Hmm but there Broadband Packages are Dsl based yet my line doesn't pass with Eircom etc.

Irishpimpdude · 22-02-2006 3:00am

oh right... well that thing just determines if its in your area... it doesnt check your line specifically.

marsdelight · 22-02-2006 3:05am

The Real B-man wrote:

Hmm but there Broadband Packages are Dsl based yet my line doesn't pass with Eircom etc.

i'm not 100% sorry, the best thing is to ring them i suppose.

The Real B-man · 22-02-2006 3:35am

Irishpimpdude wrote:

oh right... well that thing just determines if its in your area... it doesnt check your line specifically.

it is line because my friend around the corner can't get it so i best ring them 2moro fingers crossed

paulm17781 · 22-02-2006 10:21am

The Real B-man wrote:

Hmm but there Broadband Packages are Dsl based yet my line doesn't pass with Eircom etc.

Magnet use ADSL 2+. different technology to Eircon.

revileandy · 22-02-2006 10:37am

they're a stranged crowd, I rang them a few weeks ago to see if they had any services in North County Dublin (Lusk/Rush area's) and they said no. Driving to work the other day and there's a huge Magnet billboard 2 minutes from house advertising their triple play service - why would they waste such money on advertising like that?

paulm17781 · 22-02-2006 11:34am

revileandy wrote:

they're a stranged crowd, I rang them a few weeks ago to see if they had any services in North County Dublin (Lusk/Rush area's) and they said no. Driving to work the other day and there's a huge Magnet billboard 2 minutes from house advertising their triple play service - why would they waste such money on advertising like that?

So people know who they are when they are available, all to do with brand recognition. It will also help them determine when to roll out to that area based on demand.

skywalker · 22-02-2006 12:17pm

The Real B-man wrote:

Hmm im puzzled my line passed for Magnet Broadband or is this just a sales gimmick that my line will eventully pass?

Where is the line checker on the site?

WezzyB · 22-02-2006 12:53pm

http://www.magnet.ie/subscribe/line.shtml

On the homepage there is a picture of a house (like a monopoly board house) click that link.

skywalker · 22-02-2006 1:26pm

Ahh never noticed that before. Cheers.

seamus · 22-02-2006 1:43pm

It would seem that they don't actually check your line, but just give you a pass/fail depending on your exchange. I put in a disconnected number and was told that service was available immediately

(Lucan Ballydowd Exchange)

Drapper · 22-02-2006 2:20pm

The Real B-man wrote:

Hmm im puzzled my line passed for Magnet Broadband or is this just a sales gimmick that my line will eventully pass?

same as my post last week failed Eircom passed Magnet !

bk · 22-02-2006 2:34pm

However it should be pointed out that Eircom is unnecessarily strict with it's line tests and that Magnet are using ADSL2+ which reachs further then ADSL, so many people who can't get ADSL from Eircom might stand a good chance of getting Magnet (but at much lower speeds like 1m, not the 8m, but it is better then nothing).

The Real B-man · 22-02-2006 3:51pm

Rang them up my line quality usual ****e yet i can get up to 52kbps on Dial up i think it has to do with my house being built many years after the estate & i think its pair gained theres a disturbing looking eircom manhole outside yet theres none around the rest of the estate and to my surprise someone in my estate has it!! according to Magnet. im considering get a new line i cant see its my internal wiring at all as i only have a master socket(NOT EIRCOM JUST A CHEAP SOCKET) that i directly connect to when i go on line
Diagram of Wiring

Master Socket

Slave Socket Phone

Slave Socket Modem

Any Pointers whould be great

Thanks
B-man.

paulm17781 · 22-02-2006 4:10pm

If you get 52kbps on dial up it is not a pair gain issue. Maybe Eircon won't give BB due to distance?

The Real B-man · 22-02-2006 4:14pm

paulm17781 wrote:

If you get 52kbps on dial up it is not a pair gain issue. Maybe Eircon won't give BB due to distance?

Yeah thats true but im looking for Magnet they use adsl2 which has further reach from the exchange & according to Magnet someone has it in my estate

paulm17781 · 22-02-2006 4:20pm

The Real B-man wrote:

Yeah thats true but im looking for Magnet they use adsl2 which has further reach from the exchange & according to Magnet someone has it in my estate

Yeah that's what I was getting at. Eircon fail != Magnet fail. Many people don't know this though.

Drapper · 22-02-2006 4:27pm

paulm17781 wrote:

Yeah that's what I was getting at. Eircon fail != Magnet fail. Many people don't know this though.

but the guy on the phone was adimant he could get 2mb to my house, on the blanch exchange, which I believe does not have ADSl2¬ but EIrcom fail, maybe they just take a sht at it and say on the instal day sorry mate no signal!

paulm17781 · 22-02-2006 4:38pm

Drapper wrote:

but the guy on the phone was adimant he could get 2mb to my house, on the blanch exchange, which I believe does not have ADSl2¬ but EIrcom fail, maybe they just take a sht at it and say on the instal day sorry mate no signal!

I know nothing about Magnet but I rarely trust CS people, if they can get you BB and Eircon won't it is with their equipment. I once explained to an Ericon CS rep (about a year ago) what DSL is. He knew they sold broadband but didn't think they sold DSL

The Real B-man · 22-02-2006 5:15pm

The Real B-man wrote:

Rang them up my line quality usual ****e yet i can get up to 52kbps on Dial up i think it has to do with my house being built many years after the estate & i think its pair gained theres a disturbing looking eircom manhole outside yet theres none around the rest of the estate and to my surprise someone in my estate has it!! according to Magnet. im considering get a new line i cant see its my internal wiring at all as i only have a master socket(NOT EIRCOM JUST A CHEAP SOCKET) that i directly connect to when i go on line
Diagram of Wiring

Master Socket

Slave Socket Phone

Slave Socket Modem

Any Pointers whould be great

Thanks
B-man.

Bump

The Real B-man · 23-02-2006 4:46pm

bump

Sponge Bob · 23-02-2006 4:55pm

they are not in series.

you have a bus topology after the master socket which causes a current drop.

master should go to slave one (use 1 pair from that cable , i assume you have 2 or 4 pairs in the cable) )
use a second pair to come back from slave one to inside master socket and join tor wires out to slave 2 inside that master socket while ensuring that slave2 is not wired to the master itself

therefore master > slave1 > slave2 = in series

you have master (equally to ) slave 1 and to slave 2 , a bus formation after master with the current dropping equally to each of the slaves and affecting your pass. Even disconnecting slave2 altogether (from master) until after you pass will help

sort that out again .

This is a a classic internal wiring problem

The Real B-man · 23-02-2006 5:00pm

Thanks Sponge Bob is there any diagrams available to aid me rewire?

The Real B-man · 23-02-2006 5:11pm

Ok thanks a million i will just connect the phone directly to the master for a month or so will going online affect my chances of passing?

Most Grateful
Bernard.

The Real B-man · 23-02-2006 5:13pm

will get the photos up 2moro im away at the moment on 2mb dsl believe it or not lol

Sponge Bob · 23-02-2006 5:19pm

Just the one photo of the inside of a slave , the type of socket is acalled a Mod Tap (not full size fits on skirting)

The master socket is also a mod tap and I would personally to to a 3g shop and but a full eircom master socket and wire that in for starters if I were you . There is more room inside)

The Real B-man · 23-02-2006 6:40pm

Sponge Bob wrote:

Just the one photo of the inside of a slave , the type of socket is acalled a Mod Tap (not full size fits on skirting)

The master socket is also a mod tap and I would personally to to a 3g shop and but a full eircom master socket and wire that in for starters if I were you . There is more room inside)

Great! you can get them in 3g stores im off 2moro to souce one out

The Real B-man · 24-02-2006 4:44pm

Sponge Bob wrote:

Just the one photo of the inside of a slave , the type of socket is acalled a Mod Tap (not full size fits on skirting)

The master socket is also a mod tap and I would personally to to a 3g shop and but a full eircom master socket and wire that in for starters if I were you . There is more room inside)

Here you go Sponge Bob hope this helps

Many Thanks,
Bernard.

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