Classy Fans

p.pete

Big Nelly wrote:

Tripe? read the top of the page for a full on denial that it was Liverpool fans. great tripe that when my post is verified in the same page on here!!

Yep, tripe. Some people want to argue that they're not fans of liverpool/football but just sub-humane thugs. Most likely they were wearing liverpool t-shirts and I wish disowning and disasociating the club from people capable of doing things like that was a straightforward matter. It's not however as simple as saying "they're not really fans", which is upsetting for a lot of people as the vast majority of most fans from most clubs are respectable people. The associatioin will still be there.

Anyway, I'll stick by my tripe remark.

Big Nelly

Pigman II wrote:

Well as I understand it SheffWed currently get around 23k per game in 'Div2'. By comparison when ManU were relegated in the 70's they pulling average attendances 48k the season they spent in Div2. But they (and comparable clubs like Liverpool) don't have 'real support' according to you?

Who do you support? if you read back I was commentating on a suggestion that Shef Wed have only 6 supporters. As you have shown there is on average 23k supports at Championship games. Now how many other clubs outside the PL can say this?

Also I didnt say Utd etc dont have real support! I said that they have alot of bandwagon supporters because they are top or winning something! as soon as Liverpool won teh CL last season we suddenly had a load of people on here with that stupid YNWA posts!!! everyone was all of a sudden a Liverpool supporter!!! are these "real" fans?

Pigman II wrote:

Maybe people in Turin have better things to be doing that people in Sheffield.

Maybe they do, go over and ask them if you like!!

Pigman II

Big Nelly wrote:

Who do you support? if you read back I was commentating on a suggestion that Shef Wed have only 6 supporters. As you have shown there is on average 23k supports at Championship games. Now how many other clubs outside the PL can say this?

What does it matter who I support? As for comparing your 23k to other clubs, how many clubs outside the premiership have a 40,000 seat ground in city of 520,000 people?

Also I didnt say Utd etc dont have real support! I said that they have alot of bandwagon supporters because they are top or winning something! as soon as Liverpool won teh CL last season we suddenly had a load of people on here with that stupid YNWA posts!!! everyone was all of a sudden a Liverpool supporter!!! are these "real" fans?

Well whats your point then? You seem to claim superiority because your team has 20000 'real' fans and no glory hunters compared to other teams that have 40000 'real' fans plus 'x' amount gloryhunters that one can fit into their ground plus 'y' amount of gloryhunters (that'll never see 'their' team outside of a pub) coming onto boards.ie to annoy you.

Maybe they do, go over and ask them if you like!!

Nah I'll leave that to you since you're so proud of that meaningless statistic you quoted in the first place.

Jivin Turkey

The only way to solve this is to dock Chelsea 20 points, kick them out of the CL and ban them from making transfers for a year.

p.pete

Jivin Turkey wrote:

The only way to solve this is to dock Chelsea 20 points, kick them out of the CL and ban them from making transfers for a year.

You're joking, and have a Liverpool league win ridiculed for evermore because we won by default?

Big Nelly

Pigman II wrote:

What does it matter who I support?

Well was wondering because you just seem to come onto a thread to attack people. First of all was your "comments" on Best and then I mention Shef Wed as a joke and you start crying about that?? you not getting enough attention?

When did I claim that I was superior? again read the thread, someone implied there was only 6 supporters so I pointed out there was more. Are you not allowed to answer peeople posts in here unless we clear it with you? you have a chip on your shoulder or something against people mentioning there clubs on a public forum? if so I would suggest to stay away from here. There is people on hear and whisper it that support other teams than the big 3-4 in PL. I even seen a Milan fan on here:eek: how dare he post about Milan!

p.pete wrote:

You're joking, and have a Liverpool league win ridiculed for evermore because we won by default?

Think Utd would have a thing to say about that:D

Pigman II

Big Nelly wrote:

Well was wondering because you just seem to come onto a thread to attack people. First of all was your "comments" on Best and then I mention Shef Wed as a joke and you start crying about that?? you not getting enough attention?

When did I claim that I was superior? again read the thread, someone implied there was only 6 supporters so I pointed out there was more. Are you not allowed to answer peeople posts in here unless we clear it with you? you have a chip on your shoulder or something against people mentioning there clubs on a public forum? if so I would suggest to stay away from here. There is people on hear and whisper it that support other teams than the big 3-4 in PL. I even seen a Milan fan on here:eek: how dare he post about Milan!

Sounds to me like you're the one with the chip on your shoulder.

Thanx 4 The Fish

Make that a potato field...;)

Big Nelly

Pigman II wrote:

Sounds to me like you're the one with the chip on your shoulder.

Read back on your posts and see then! this thread is going no where anyway

Suggest it should be closed!!

gracehopper

p.pete wrote:

You're joking, and have a Liverpool league win ridiculed for evermore because we won by default?

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pld GD PTs
Man Utd----26 26 54
Liverpool----26 15 51

we wouldnt like to win the league by default either ye know!

RuggieBear

Big Nelly wrote:

Read back on your posts and see then! this thread is going no where anyway

Suggest it should be closed!!

Maybe you should report it...;)

blu_sonic

lads i think the sheffielf comment "their 2 fans" was a joke, might want to cool off getting wound up about it, that'll get the thread losed and/or people banned for flaming

to yop about the GAA remember

Then there was the incident a few years ago when a Wicklow GAA referee was locked in a car boot - which has since become part of GAA folklore.

i've never heard of an act like that in soccer

these people who carried out the attack were most likely supporters, but not true supporters of football. its clear that both man u and liverpool fans here condemn the act, i'm obviously a nutral so i'm not getting as worked up about it. If it was outside the stadium there should have been police on hand where were they? the police should be give smith a police escort through crowed streets seeing as he had what was thought at the time to be a career threatening injusry

Big Nelly

blu_sonic wrote:

lads i think the sheffielf comment "their 2 fans" was a joke, might want to cool off getting wound up about it, that'll get the thread losed and/or people banned for flaming

I know that, Hence why I stuck in the Juve bit, it all came about from a joke about Leeds fans. Some people just took offence to a mention of Shef Wed.

PiE

"Fans"?

"Outside the ground"?

"Fans"?

Does not compute.

blu_sonic

match finished

people leaving

match finished

this help r2?

Dr. Nick

Late in here, haven't read the full thread.

Given the theme though, it's a pity we don't have 'classy' footballers.

I was at the last LFC/MUFC game at Anfield, walked around the ground twice before the game, hung around afterwards......no hint of trouble. Nothing. ManU fans were on Anfield Road, notable by their lack of colours, which would be normal.

What's the difference between the two games? Look no further than Mr. Neville my friends.

blu_sonic

when ever the nevile incident is mentioned one must recall the carragher one, lets be honest its tit for tap between man u and liverpool, least it makes it interesting

Jimi-Spandex

0/10 for this thread.

Somebody should kill it.

Bluetonic

Nice to see the class comming out in the Liverpool fans again over the weekend.

http://manunitedfans.blogspot.com/

Pigman II

Yeah also not too clever of that guy in the Liverpool section throwing a half-full Beer Bottle at (iirc?) Geremi yesterday?

Although I think a Chelsea fan had thrown a cigarette lighter at Gerrard earlier on when he was taking a corner so it works both ways.

kaimera

Bluetonic wrote:

Nice to see the class comming out in the Liverpool fans again over the weekend.

http://manunitedfans.blogspot.com/

Again with the tarring all the fans.

Has it not been established already that yes, Liverpool has some 'bad apples' but lets jump on the bandwagon.

ffs.

Bluetonic

kaimera wrote:

Again with the tarring all the fans.

Has it not been established already that yes, Liverpool has some 'bad apples' but lets jump on the bandwagon.

ffs.

Who is tarring 'all the fans'?

'Fans' == two or more, not 'all the fans'

ffs.

kaimera

Bluetonic wrote:

Who is tarring 'all the fans'?

'Fans' == two or more, not 'all the fans'

ffs.

Cos that was clearly obvious from yer post. :rolleyes:

Else you would have posted something along the lines of

Nice to see the class comming out in some of the Liverpool fans again over the weekend.

super_furry

If anyone thinks that Anfield wouldn't have been left in a similar state had United played a semi-final there, they're wrong.

There were banners about Hillsbrough and Michael Shields left suspended from bridges on the motorway to Manchester from Liverpool yesterday and while the idiots that smashed up the toilet and the rest should be condemed, it's not a problem that's only confined to Liverpool.

Bluetonic

kaimera wrote:

Cos that was clearly obvious from yer post. :rolleyes:

Else you would have posted something along the lines of

Ah come off it now I hardly was saying 40,000 Liverpool fans squeezed into the WC to wreck the sinks :rolleyes:

Altough I will use your reworked statement for this one...

Nice to see the class comming out in some of the Liverpool fans again over the weekend

EVERTON player Tim Cahill was caught up in an altercation with rival Liverpool supporters which ended with a bottle or glass allegedly being thrown in a crowded city centre bar.

The incident took place early yesterday morning (Sunday)in the upmarket Newz bar in Water Street, a favourite watering hole of Premiership footballers and celebrities.

It is believed Cahill had gone to the bar with friends following Everton's goalless draw against Birmingham at Goodison Park.

He was confronted with a group of jubilant Liverpool supporters celebrating their team's FA Cup semi-final victory against Chelsea.

According to an onlooker, Cahill became involved in a row with the fans shortly after he entered the bar.

He decided to leave before the situation escalated, but on his way out it is believed a bottle or glass was hurled in his direction, which fortunately did not hit anyone.

Newz bar owner Paul Flanagan said: "It was a bit of a storm in a teacup. The police weren't called."

An Everton spokesman confirmed there had been an incident involving a player, but he had been uninjured.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0400evertonfc/0100news/tm_objectid=16985249%26method=full%26siteid=50061%26headline=cahill%2dleaves%2dbar%2dafter%2drow%2dwith%2djubilant%2dliverpool%2dfans-name_page.html

Hobart

Bluetonic wrote:

Nice to see the class comming out in the Liverpool fans again over the weekend.

http://manunitedfans.blogspot.com/.

How do you know it was Liverpool fans? Just because some guy put it into his webblog? How do you know the pictures where taken on Sat? How do you know that some Manc idiot did not daub the slogans on the wall with a view to tarnishing 'Pool fans?

tbh

Bluetonic, even assuming that those pictures are accurate, whats the point you are trying to make?

super_furry

Really Bluetonic we get it, you hate Liverpool but you're just getting petty now. If we were to detail every instance Robbie Fowler for example had similar trouble with Everton fans, we'd be here all day. ALL TEAMS have idiots who attach themselves to them.

Bluetonic

super_furry wrote:

Really Bluetonic we get it, you hate Liverpool but you're just getting petty now. If we were to detail every instance Robbie Fowler for example had similar trouble with Everton fans, we'd be here all day. ALL TEAMS have idiots who attach themselves to them.

I agree ALL TEAMS have idiots who attach themselves onto the club, but this isn't about ALL TEAMS. Whats wrong with me pointing out what I have pointed out? I haven't mad any rash statements, I simply pointed out what Liverpool fans (two or more (fans), not a blanket thing) carried out. Where the fault in that? What is it you want?

In fairness to Robbie Fowler he hasn't really endeered himself to Evertonians, you'd think being an Evertonian himself in his younger days he would have made some more choice decisions.

Hobart

Bluetonic wrote:

I agree ALL TEAMS have idiots who attach themselves onto the club, but this isn't about ALL TEAMS. Whats wrong with me pointing out what I have pointed out? I haven't mad any rash statements, I simply pointed out what Liverpool fans (two or more (fans), not a blanket thing) carried out. Where the fault in that? What is it you want?

In fairness to Robbie Fowler he hasn't really endeered himself to Evertonians, you'd think being an Evertonian himself in his younger days he would have made some more choice decisions.

Because you are tarring Liverpool fans, on the basis of some Manc webblog. That's whats wrong with it. I could setup as webblog on a Liverpool website, find a few pictures of this that and the other, and post them up and claim it was Manc fans. It's hardly the hardest thing in the world to do now is it?

Your stirring it up on the basis of crap, basically. And you have no proof that it was liverpool fans who did this. I reckon it was actually a bad minded Manc fan who did it with the agenda of trying to get Liverpool fans a bad name.

So in that regard:

http://manunitedfans.blogspot.com/

Nice to see that a Manc idiot tries to get a Liverpool fan(s) into trouble, by destroying part of a cubicle in a pub, and trying to pass it off as OT. He also did a bad photoshop job on a Bud advertisment. what an idiot.

Bluetonic

FAO Hobbart - http://forum.raotl.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=29027

When it breaks out in the public domain on the news I'll PM you the articles.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16985195&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=24-fans-arrested-at-fa-cup-semi-final-name_page.html

The Liverpool Urchins fans group meanwhile used spray paint to daub similar messages about the Munich air disaster of 1958 around the walls of the ground.

Hundreds of "five times" stickers were also used to "decorate" Old Trafford, referring to Liverpool's convincing lead in European Cup victories.

Hobart

Bluetonic wrote:

FAO Hobbart - http://forum.raotl.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=29027

When it breaks out in the public domain on the news I'll PM you the articles.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16985195&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=24-fans-arrested-at-fa-cup-semi-final-name_page.html

I have no desire to have a pm from you. Post it up here if you wish, i could not care less. You are linking to fora, which are off the same ilk as your first link. Really, why don't you just grow up and stop acting like a spoilt little brat?

Here's a quote from one of the fora you linked too:

The cultured fans of Murdering Scum FC last night trashed Old Trafford

and

the vermin in OT and now winning as well

and

Always seems to be ****e like "toon army" written in the toilets every game after an Ingurlund internationals at OT Lets have a go at the Newcastle fans aswell. :rolleyes:

And it's 1 b in Hobart.


EDIT: from one of the links you posted there:

Supporters from Manchester had draped offensive banners about the Hillsborough disaster over bridges on the motorway approaches to the city.

Classy lads!

Bluetonic

Hobart wrote:

Always seems to be ****e like "toon army" written in the toilets every game after an Ingurlund internationals at OT Lets have a go at the Newcastle fans aswell. :rolleyes:

I didn't realise that when someone posted something on the soccer forum that they had to also cover every other possibility which might have ever occured around a similar type of event. Whats wrong with reporting somthing that happened. Have you some problem with freedom of speech?

Hobart wrote:

Really, why don't you just grow up and stop acting like a spoilt little brat?

Hobart wrote:

And it's 1 b in Hobart.

Thats rich.

Hobart

Back to the ironing with you Blutonic. Thanks for your contribution. :rolleyes:

Bluetonic

Hobart wrote:

Back to the ironing with you Blutonic. Thanks for your contribution. :rolleyes:

It's Bluetonic

Pal

I sat in the Liverpool section on saturday with my son.
Geremi and Duff were racially abused by morons beside me.
Never again will I bring a kid near these people.
I know it's not them all but some of the expletives at Mourinho were collective. A note in the program said the FA will not tolerate foul language.
Nobody did anything about it.

~Rebel~

Yes these people are terrible human beings, but unfortunately they exist everywhere, at every club in probably every country.

Unfortunately, some people just suck. Would be wonderful if all clubs could clamp down on these "fans" but imo couldn't see it happening over smaller stuff like this. Regrettably it will probably take a bigger more serious offence by some random rivels at a derby or something before officials will do anything serious.

Mitch Connor

What is it with 'some' liverpool fans this season, i seem to be hearing more about these horrid acts this season then any other. And a lot more about Liverpool fans acting in a shameful manner then other other side.