Bebo

Stabshauptmann

Seems like bebos days in UCDD are numbered. Apparently there have been a number of complaints and bebo is to become inaccessable from college machines.

irlrobins

hurrah is all I can say! I find a large amount of people in labs are just endlessly surfing on bebo when other people clearly need to do coursework.

I'm all for freedom of access of sites etc before anyone starts the "now Bebo, next hotmail" rant. But the use of Bebo is almost epidemic at this stage. And it can hardly be considered as furthering the education of the student.

A good idea.

irlrobins

Kaptain Redeye wrote:

Seems like bebos days in UCDD are numbered.

Oh by the way, where did u hear this from?

Stabshauptmann

there have actually been calls to ban personal email.
but yeah, so many ppl would be better off academically if it were banned. But at the same time its a great social thing and college should be about fun as much as anything else. How would ppl feel if boards' ip were blocked.

Ive a laptop so im actually grand.

Heres something for whoever gets electe to ents, provide a recreational computer area for those interested in non academic web usage.

Stabshauptmann

just general word of mouth. I did see a number of complaints in that little library book tough that said computer services were looking into it

irlrobins

Kaptain Redeye wrote:

Heres something for whoever gets electe to ents, provide a recreational computer area for those interested in non academic web usage.

Never going to happen. They (UCD SU) would have to provide their own access to internet (i.e. not use UCD's network in anyway). And it will leave them open to being responsible for anything libelous or defamatory that is posted/transmitted.

And Bebo is prob the first site to be banned by UCD. They don't actively filter porn sites afaik.

irlrobins

Kaptain Redeye wrote:

computer services were looking into it

I'll hold my breath!

Stabshauptmann

irlrobins wrote:

They don't actively filter porn sites afaik.

FFS!

Dave!

That's great, I've been gettin invites for the past 4 or 5 MONTHS, and then when I finally register, it gets banned. That's just perfect! :mad:

Ahh well, once they don't ban boards, I'm hunky dory...

Or Gmail.

Or hawtdudes.co--oooh sh!t, nearly let that one slip! :eek:

arbeitsscheuer

Walkin in to the Library today (I know, I know... the end must be nigh) and as I was walking past those complaints things I noticed that whats-his-name that answers them had pointed out that BEBO was going to be banned/blocked from the Library computers. Nice one!!!

However, what about Daedalus and the LGs?

Those places were a nightmare to get a PC at before this whole BEBO epidemic spread throughout the student body. Now it's bordering on the impossible, and surely frenzied Computer Rage and chaotic violence are only seconds away...

Without resorting to hyperbole, would you say it is time for our PC-users to crack open eachother's heads and feast on the gooey contents inside?

Dave!

I think so, Kent.



I think w/ regards Daedalus, it doesn't help that they've closed the biggest room in the place! Anyone know why they've emptied the room?

drdre

thats a good idea as bebo is a waste of time.:D

Vainglory

I remember back in the day when MSN even worked on college computers (yes, the proper MSN, not ****ty web MSN).

Red Alert

AFAIK no site is blocked by UCD. i can't see why Bebo would be any different, and i also suspect that blocking any particular site would be difficult to implement and justify. they would also have to officially inform everyone that such a ban was taking effect.

the library can probably do as they wish with computers in their control/ownership.

europerson

I wish Trinity would follow UCD's example and ban Bebo too.

Red Alert

Vainglory I think MSN might even have been installed as standard on the Win 98 image.

You can install and use MSN if you've a laptop. Can your SU office computer run MSN or is it locked down?

arbeitsscheuer

Red Alert wrote:

AFAIK no site is blocked by UCD. i can't see why Bebo would be any different, and i also suspect that blocking any particular site would be difficult to implement and justify. they would also have to officially inform everyone that such a ban was taking effect..

Nah they wouldn't.

Like Vainglory said, they deleted MSN and prevented the ability to download and install it, apropos of nothing, without telling anyone or justifying it in any way.

Me in 1st yr: MSN working on college PCs
2nd yr: Inexplicably taken away

Now, I didn't particularly mind, cos college PCs are there for work purposes etc etc, but if that was the principle behind banning MSN, then there really is nothing preventing the college from doing the same with BEBO.

rainbow kirby

The thing about MSN is that there's always webmessenger to use, or if you use GoogleTalk then there's the Google Chat client as part of Gmail now. Bebo just gets on my nerves... thankfully I have my own laptop so I don't have to wait for a computer anywhere.

irlrobins

Red Alert wrote:

i also suspect that blocking any particular site would be difficult to implement

Nope, would take 10 secs probably.

Red Alert wrote:

they would also have to officially inform everyone that such a ban was taking effect.

No requirement for them to inform anyone of that ban. But if they wanted to, they could simply have a page that says "We have restricted access to this site" everytime someone tries to use bebo.com

Red Alert wrote:

the library can probably do as they wish with computers in their control/ownership.

The PCs in the library fall under the control of computer services. With possibly the exception of the ones used for access book lists etc.

rainbow kirby

If Bebo is banned, it would be so funny to go down to the LGs in arts and see the reactions of all the D4heads when they realise their main timewasting diversion is gone from campus

arbeitsscheuer

rainbow kirby wrote:

If Bebo is banned, it would be so funny to go down to the LGs in arts and see the reactions of all the D4heads when they realise their main timewasting diversion is gone from campus

Please, for the love of all that is holy, if anybody happens to be there when this happens TAKE A PICTURE AND UPLOAD IT HERE!

It will provide hours of hilarity.

Vainglory

Red Alert wrote:

Vainglory I think MSN might even have been installed as standard on the Win 98 image.

You can install and use MSN if you've a laptop. Can your SU office computer run MSN or is it locked down?

My office computer can run MSN, shockingly considering it's the biggest pile of crap ever to claim "computer" status. Not to mention my printer, which spews out mostly blank sheets with some random designs of what looks like that odd Wingdings font over it at random intervals. Sigh.

irlrobins

Vainglory wrote:

Not to mention my printer, which spews out mostly blank sheets with some random designs of what looks like that odd Wingdings font over it at random intervals. Sigh.

You don't have to correct drivers installed, that's what causes that.

PhantomBeaker

Heh, if netsoc ever got its proxy back up, you'd still be able to get access to bebo.

But yeah, to be honest, I'll not be sorry to see it go. Science labs at peak time show so many farking people using it, when others are actually waiting around for a chance to write actual papers, for actual academic uses.

I've no objection to people using this stuff for frivolous use outside of peak hours, but when someone's trying to get some work done, show some frickin' respect! Checking mail for 5 seconds is cool, but sitting like some samurai sloth in front of the machine playing that stupid little clicky helicopter game for an hour or trying to chat someone up via bebo is useless and wasteful! If I ever need to get work done at that point, I'd have no qualms about asking them to get up and let people who are doing real work actually WORK.

The rest, you do after 5 or 6 o'clock.

Æ - gamer, old stylee... and slightly ranty tonight. And I'm one who occasionally indulges in going over to a broken computer, sitting down, doing things that make it work, and leaving it again, just as broken as before (unless I can fix it - which is rare these days)

Pythia

Vainglory wrote:

My office computer can run MSN, shockingly considering it's the biggest pile of crap ever to claim "computer" status. Not to mention my printer, which spews out mostly blank sheets with some random designs of what looks like that odd Wingdings font over it at random intervals. Sigh.

Sounds like the computers in the societies room.

Syth

PhantomBeaker wrote:

Heh, if netsoc ever got its proxy back up, you'd still be able to get access to bebo.

Hmmm sounds like someone on the NetSoc Ops committee could sort that out.... I wonder who! (Get on the job AE! Freaking 3rd years.... So less work than us final years....)

irlrobins wrote:

Never going to happen. They (UCD SU) would have to provide their own access to internet (i.e. not use UCD's network in anyway). And it will leave them open to being responsible for anything libelous or defamatory that is posted/transmitted.

NetSoc basically do this.

Though we do use UCD Computer Services's power, bndwidth and room to host out machines, so we are not totally independent. And we are not responsible for what people look up on the internet through our proxy. We are nothing more than an automated proxy, a common carrier. We don't filter in anyway. It's like if someone slandered you over the phone line, you couldn't sue Eircom. Or if you recieved porn in the post, you couldn't sue An Post. Same with NetSoc.

Actually if Computing Services do block a certain site (bebo.com), they are clearly able (and willing) to block sites. So if you come across anything dodgy on the internet over UCD computers, you can blame computer services for not blocking it.

And if you think people are wasting time and blocking computers, I only have one piece of advice. Get a spine and tell them to stop. Don't be a dick about that, and don't be a dick about using the computers.

irlrobins wrote:

They don't actively filter porn sites afaik.

The memories... I remember that.... *shudder* How did he get back in college?! How?!

irlrobins

Syth wrote:

Get a spine and tell them to stop.

Don't worry, I do!

Syth wrote:

The memories... I remember that.... *shudder* How did he get back in college?! How?!

The fuck you on about?

rainbow kirby

He's on about a certain person who got caught spanking the monkey in G15 about 2 years ago.

irlrobins

rainbow kirby wrote:

He's on about a certain person who got caught spanking the monkey in G15 about 2 years ago.

FFS! That will make you think before you touch a mouse in one of the labs again....

beanyb

Ah I'll be so happy if they block it, and I'll make sure I do all my essays in college where I cant be distracted. I always go to the computers with the intention of working, but I have no willpower whatsoever!