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My Circumcision Story

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Funky G wrote: »
    Many thanks to west skipper for trying to explain the high / low cut difference etc, but i am still at loggerheads over what to ask or go for. But the point is i don't want a full circumcision. I want to keep as much of the feeling and look of my penis as possible.
    Then quite simply tell the doctor that you don't want a full removal of your foreskin. End of. If he or she doesn't agree, find someone who will. The second problem you may have is that in Ireland it seems on Camilo's experience that the doctors he saw had never even heard of preputioplasty and he had to show them the wiki on the subject. If this is correct and any way widespread these are not the kinda scalpeled up yahoos I'd want near my member to be frank.

    I agree westskippers post is informative but again IMHO there are elements of body modification rather than actual medical considerations creeping in. IE if medical phimosis is what is being cured here then why the meh attitude to partial circs? "Loose (partial) circumcisions may cure a phimosis but they give you a half foreskin, which half covers your glans, which is not necessarily better than a tight cut...and foreskin will stretch over time as you age anyway", though the foreskin in every other opinion won't stretch enough to avoid having it removed in the first place... Or any number of other cultural viewpoints creeping in. I would also disagree with the notion that the outer foreskin is not sensitive. :confused: Have some commenting on here ever had a functioning foreskin? Hey maybe I happen to be built very differently and this is why I'm thinking WTF with some in this thread. :D

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Wibbs wrote: »
    If this is correct and any way widespread these are not the kinda scalpeled up yahoos I'd want near my member to be frank.

    dude I know you're joking and all, but that's the kind of talk that angries up the locals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭Funky G


    Cheers for the response lads,

    At €150 a consultation i'll be asking for more than a cup of coffee....more of a stiff drink...excuse the pun - depending on what he has to say.

    I've tried the stretching and the steroid creams but i think its time for the specialist to have a look at see what could be done.

    Personally, I don't want to have a circ but i won't take the first answer if he recommends a circ as a definite answer and i would get a second opinion.

    Will keep you posted.

    G.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    tbh wrote: »
    dude I know you're joking and all, but that's the kind of talk that angries up the locals.
    I'm only joking in my word use tbh, however I am not joking if like I said Camilo's experience is more widespread. Obviously there is an if there of course. Regardless of the pros or cons of the procedure itself, if a professional and specialist is not aware of a procedure in the field that appears well known elsewhere then I would not trust that persons opinion. It's quite that simple. In that case "expert knows best" is not quite true, more like "expert has an idea, but also has gaps in his or her knowledge". I'd feel similar about any trade or profession. I'd have no confidence in them and seek out better council.

    If I was paying out 150 quid to be told this and a further few grand for the actual procedure? I'd be really asking questions. Indeed I'd be interested to see if westskipper's informative post on the different types of surgery are as well known in the trade or is it pot luck with ones surgeon?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    I do know where you're comin from wibbs, and I know you long enough to appreciate the spirit in which you make the post, but I don't think you understand the level of gratitude I have for my consultant and I can tell a lot of the other lads feel the same. I'm not saying we're right, but that's the fact of the thread and I'm asking you to bear that in mind, both for the sake of not derailing it but also so people don't miss the points you're making because of an emotional response - rational or irrational. :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    just wondering has anyone had any success with the frenuplasty? i can get the foreskin back over the head fully when flaccid, but then when it goes on an erection i get a sharp tight pain on the underside of the head, i assume this is cause by the tension of the frenulum trying to stretch.

    Do you think this could be solved by frenuplasty or go for full circ, just want to get this sorted as soon as possible at this stage


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 rolandweary


    Ok, so its pretty much exactly 48 hours since the op. Everything has been pretty good so far.

    The tip, which is the only part exposed yet, is sensitive as hell but I was expecting that and as long as it doesn't knock off anything it's fine. I've also figured out a way of keeping my sheets 'pitched' during the night to keep them from hitting off it.

    I had tried the suggestion of the briefs to hold it in place but it's too sensitive even for that. Just the feeling of something against it, even if it isn't really moving, is too much for now. Maybe in a couple of days.

    Generally haven't had any problems during the night except for a few erections which woke me and took a few minutes to get to go away. They're more uncomfortable than painful and I guess it's reassuring that the lad still has it in him after such a traumatic experience! If I had always known I was having so many erections while asleep I might have made better use of them somehow!

    Anyway, the bandage is fairly bloody on the underside now. Although that was there almost straight away so I don't think there's being much fresh bleeding in the last 24 hours. All the same I think it might be better to soak it and try to remove it at some stage today. Painful as it might be I figure the sooner I let the air to the whole area the better for the healing process.

    More info to follow, if only as it gives me something to do while I'm sitting in the house all day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Zipppy


    just wondering has anyone had any success with the frenuplasty? i can get the foreskin back over the head fully when flaccid, but then when it goes on an erection i get a sharp tight pain on the underside of the head, i assume this is cause by the tension of the frenulum trying to stretch.

    Do you think this could be solved by frenuplasty or go for full circ, just want to get this sorted as soon as possible at this stage

    I had a frenuoplasty couple of years ago...complete success with very quick healing time and little pain...a doc will tell you if this will cure ya... In my case my 'ring' has since tightened up and I'm in for circ on 5/5....just bad luck I reckon ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭Stu


    I had to argue with my Urologist to get him to do a Frenectomy (Full Removal of the Frenulum but keeping all of the Foreskin). He had already made a balls of the Frenuloplasty, if anything my banjo string is even tighter than before i had the OP with more scarring and yet he told me that the OP was a success after i came round from the local anasthesic :rolleyes:.

    Anybody who wants to keep their Foreskin can have a Frenuloplasty first and if that fails then go for a Frenectomy. If your Urologist won't do a Frenectomy then go to another Urologist who will, at least he will be more clued up on the subject if he doesn't try to convince you to whip your foreskin off as well for no good reason (i.e - if your problem is Frenulum Breve and not Phimosis). If you have really bad Phimosis then you may need a Circumcision with "may" being the operative word, there are still other options.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 rolandweary


    Ok, got the bandage off tonight. Took my time about it, just used lukewarm water in a jug to soften it up and came off pretty easy after that. It did take about 45 minutes altogether though.

    Doesn't look like I expected it to. By which I mean I don't think it looks too bad. No real swelling or bruising, just looks a bit like a shark bite around where the cut was made! Still super sensitive too so not sure how realistic going back to work on Monday is (that was the original intention).

    I suppose my next goal is to lose the hyper sensitivity I'm experiencing. Appearance isn't a priority just now, I just want to be able to go about things as before. So outside of washing it in lukewarm water every day and keeping it out in the open air as much as possible what other things have helped people?

    I have antiseptic and moisturising creams but haven't wanted to use them in case it wasn't the right thing to do. Should I just let it heal by itself without any interference?

    Going to try sleeping tonight with nothing on it. I've wrapped the lower part of the shaft in a cotton bandage so that the head won't sit back against my sack and air will get the the whole thing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭westskipper


    So outside of washing it in lukewarm water every day and keeping it out in the open air as much as possible what other things have helped people?

    I have antiseptic and moisturising creams but haven't wanted to use them in case it wasn't the right thing to do. Should I just let it heal by itself without any interference?

    The best advice i can offer (which was given to me by my surgeon, and he seemed to be right based on my own experience) is:

    1. dont wash around the area for the first three days, this will allow the wound to seal over without being disturbed. A bit of dried blood etc is no harm, it just looks a bit naff, but leave it alone in the early days
    2. showers only, no baths for the first week after this - showers are much more hygeinic, the water is much cleaner and less contaminated that bath water, which will reduce incidence of bacterial infection of the wound.
    3. dont use salt to wash the wound, it just slows the healing processes as it 'burns' the damaged cells at the wound site
    4. dont use antiseptics as they also they slow down the healing process, and are unnecessary if the wound is clean and infection free.
    5 allow the wound as much access to fresh air as possible, dont keep it tightly bandaged so that it is 'wet' - that will also harbour bacteria and increase the risk of infection
    6. after first few days (when wound has 'sealed)', i found it very beneficial to smear it lightly twice a day with neutrogena 'original' handcream (the chapped skin formula...)and/or a light aloe vera gel, which kept the area moisturised


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭westskipper


    just wondering has anyone had any success with the frenuplasty? i can get the foreskin back over the head fully when flaccid, but then when it goes on an erection i get a sharp tight pain on the underside of the head, i assume this is cause by the tension of the frenulum trying to stretch.

    Do you think this could be solved by frenuplasty or go for full circ, just want to get this sorted as soon as possible at this stage


    I had a frenuloplasty initially, to sort out a frenulum breve(tight frenulum) condition. It worked out very well and is very recommendable. unfortunately it wasnt the final solution to my problems as i also had phimosis that had hardened into scar tissue that was no longer elastic so i eventually needed the full circ.
    However it is certainly worth looking at the possibility of getting a frenuloplasty if you think that frenulum breve is your main issue.

    as with all 'plastys', this is a plastic surgery procedure which doesnt involve the removal of any skin, just a 'remodelling' of the existing skin so its not really something that involves urologists a whole lot, a good cosmetic/plastic surgeon will do this for you as a simple clinic procedure privately for a few hundred euro.

    I know a very good one in Dublin who did it for me, PM me if you want details..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Zipppy



    I had a frenuloplasty initially, to sort out a frenulum breve(tight frenulum) condition. It worked out very well and is very recommendable. unfortunately it wasnt the final solution to my problems as i also had phimosis that had hardened into scar tissue that was no longer elastic so i eventually needed the full circ.
    However it is certainly worth looking at the possibility of getting a frenuloplasty if you think that frenulum breve is your main issue.

    ..
    Exact same story with me :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭westskipper


    Stu wrote: »
    I had to argue with my Urologist to get him to do a Frenectomy (Full Removal of the Frenulum but keeping all of the Foreskin). He had already made a balls of the Frenuloplasty...]

    Beware of urologists attempting what is actually plastic surgery. They may be the experts when it comes to issues with you bladder, prostate, testes, etc but frenuloplasty, frenectomies and in fact circumcisions are possibly better left to those who are skilled at remodelling the skin on the operating table.

    If the urologist recommends a surgical procedure to resolve your issue, its worth finding a good plastic surgeon to do it for you. Not only is that their profession, but they have new techniques and equipment that hospital operating theatres dont have when it comes to minimising the cosmetic effect, reducing scarring and promoting fast bloodless healing (eg laser cautery). Think about it - these guys rebuild people's faces, they can do a nice job on your willy.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭Nip The Tip


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Have some commenting on here ever had a functioning foreskin?

    Yep :cool:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Beware of urologists attempting what is actually plastic surgery. They may be the experts when it comes to issues with you bladder, prostate, testes, etc but frenuloplasty, frenectomies and in fact circumcisions are possibly better left to those who are skilled at remodelling the skin on the operating table.

    If the urologist recommends a surgical procedure to resolve your issue, its worth finding a good plastic surgeon to do it for you. Not only is that their profession, but they have new techniques and equipment that hospital operating theatres dont have when it comes to minimising the cosmetic effect, reducing scarring and promoting fast bloodless healing (eg laser cautery). Think about it - these guys rebuild people's faces, they can do a nice job on your willy.....
    Good advice WS. Might explain Camilo's experience of surgeons not knowing about other techniques?
    Yep :cool:
    Well if you agree the outer foreskin isn't a sensitive structure, either I'm built very differently or you were. And if it was functional why have it removed? IIRC you were elective, not for medical reasons? I'm honestly baffled as to why a man would have an operation on his knob without good reason, never mind removing a large part of the tissue at the business end. The only reasons I could see are cultural or fetish or body modification. :confused::confused:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭Funky G


    Hi all,

    Well, i was at the willy doctor today and yes, i need a circ.

    As much as i would have considered a frenaloplasty, he did echo to what west skipper has already experienced.

    With regards to the tightness around the main body of my penis when i'm erect, i did put to him could a preputioplasty solve the problem but, he said no, a full circ would be needed, in essence, kill two birds with one stone.

    Second opinion time -

    West skipper - Im gonna PM you for details on who you went to. Cheers!

    If any of the other lads have any ideas please PM me.

    Thanks

    G.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 rolandweary


    Ok, it's the evening of day 6.

    I think everything is going fine. Only issue at the moment is how sensitive the glans is. I can't bear any contact on it at all.

    Maybe naivety on my part but I thought it'd be healing quicker than this. There's no sign of any scabbing or anything like that yet. Have had a slightly itchy feeling around it today so maybe that's the start of something (Though it's also driving me mad cause I can't scratch it!)

    If it's left alone with no contact it's fine, wouldn't even know it was there if it wasn't for the occasional itching feeling

    It's hard to gauge how the swelling and bruising is doing. It's definitely more swollen than when I took the bandage off after two days but I figure the bandage was so tight that it was just delaying the swelling. It's not causing any discomfort in any case.

    Having read back through the thread just now and it seems for the most part that I'm going through the same things most people have so that's reassuring.

    But even the thought of trying to wear underwear without putting a load of vaseline and about 3 layers of gauze on the glans first sends shudders down my spine!

    All in all, everything is bearable, although there is probably a time limit on the excuses I gave people for why I'm walking funny. If I'm still limping in two weeks time it's going to seem very odd!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    It seems be for most people that there is little improvement for the first six or seven days, and then it heals practically overnight. Fingers crossed you'll feel better soon


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 scared_silly


    But even the thought of trying to wear underwear without putting a load of vaseline and about 3 layers of gauze on the glans first sends shudders down my spine!

    I'm getting mine done this week. All i've bought so far is a big tub of vaseline, what else should i get to protect the penis when walking around or sleeping?

    What do you mean my 3 layers of gauze?

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭Nip The Tip


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Well if you agree the outer foreskin isn't a sensitive structure, either I'm built very differently or you were. And if it was functional why have it removed? IIRC you were elective, not for medical reasons? I'm honestly baffled as to why a man would have an operation on his knob without good reason, never mind removing a large part of the tissue at the business end. The only reasons I could see are cultural or fetish or body modification. :confused::confused:

    I didn't say anything about outer foreskin being sensitive or not - however I do indeed think it is sensitive, just not in the same way as say inner foreskin, or your nose etc etc.
    As for reasons I had a medical reason to get it done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 scared_silly


    Hi,

    Just to help with the explanations of high/low, tight/loose etc....

    a circumcision is the excision and removal of 2" - 3" 'sleeve' of foreskin and the subsequent suturing (stitching) of the cut ends together so that the over all foreskin is shorter than the original, which means that the glans will be uncovered at least partially all of the time.

    a HIGH cut is when the 'sleeve' of foreskin removed contains mostly outer foreskin and very little inner foreskin. Therefore the scar where the two cut ends were joined will appear 'high' on the penis, probably 1 1/2 to 2 inches away from the sulcus (the circular groove behind the glans).

    A LOW cut is the opposite - mainly inner foreskin is removed and very little outer foreskin is removed, therefore the scar appears very low onthe penis, just behind the sulcus.

    A LOOSE cut is when the surgeon doesnt remove a lot of foreskin, so after the cut ends are joined again, there is still some loose foreskin - at least when flaccid - which will wrinkle and bunch up a bit, and possible cover some of the glans. If this is quite loose,some people call this a partial circ.

    a TIGHT cut is when the surgeon removes a greater amount of skin so that when rejoined there is very little 'slack' foreskin, even when flaccid, and therefore the foreskin is pulled back tight and leaves the glans and sulcus fully exposed at all times. When erect, the foreskin is pulled very tight and smooth and the glans is very prominent. this is the classic 'porn star' appearance.

    You can have any combination of high/low style with tight/loose cut, but be sure the surgeon knows of your preference before the op - it cant be changed afterwards !!

    The general consensus of most men that have been circumcised in adult life and have shared their experience on various websites (and have therefore known life as 'intact previously as a comparison) is that high is better than low, because with a low cut you lose nearly all your most sensitive inner foreskin. Outer foreskin is not very sensitive at all, but low cuts are performed sometimes because cosmetically some people think they look neater, with the scar nearly invisible at the end instead of the middle of the penis.

    Additonally, many men will tell you to avoid getting a loose cut, go for a tighter cut as it is more satisfying and feels better, more masculine. Some people would argue it looks better, as loose cuts can get 'saggy' looking and may cure phimosis but still have to be pulled back for urination and daily washing etc, so only confer some of the advantages of the tighter 'traditional' cicumcision (that may be an american term really).

    > To Clarify this point about washing, i'm not saying that you dont need to wash a tightly cut penis, but rather you dont get any smegma buildup with a tight cut, as there is no where for smegma to accumulate, everything is exposed to the air all of the time - hence you get less 'odour' issues with a tight cut....so personal hygeine is improved somewhat....


    a Tight cut doesnt mean you lose any extra sexual sensitivity so long as it is combined with a HIGH cut line, as all you have lost is extra outer foreskin, which doesnt add to sexual sensitivity anyway.

    Once you have ANY foreskin removed, you have modified your penis and therefore it will not be the same again - therefore you owe it to yourself to try to get the best finished result possible. Loose (partial) circumcisions may cure a phimosis but they give you a half foreskin, which half covers your glans, which is not necessarily better than a tight cut...and foreskin will stretch over time as you age anyway.

    one last point - I was told by my surgeon NOT to use salt baths, or disinfectants / antispetics, as they slow down the healing process, likewise he said not to bind the penis in bandages, but to let the air at the scar site as much as possible, that this would encourage a scab and more rapid healing....just wear fairly tight briefs and use surgical sterile would pads to protect it from chafing / bleeding slightly against the underwear. Within 3 days or so it will ooze no more, then you can stop using the pads and just use vaseline or nutrogena to keep the scar line moist and soft while it heals

    The very best of luck to you mate, let us know how you get on !!
    ps you ARE doing the right thing !

    Thanks again Westskipper, your advice has been invaluable.

    Whats the difference between inner and outer foreskin?

    My understanding is when flacid i can only see outer foreskin, its thick. When i pull it back it starts to reveal the inner foreskin which is the same bit of skin as the outer foreskin only its folded underneath and much thinner. How can you remove the outer foreskin and not the inner?

    The tight band that restricts the forskin from retracting when erect is where the outer foreskin ends and the inner foreskin begins.

    Hopefully you understand what i'm describing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 rolandweary


    tbh wrote: »
    It seems be for most people that there is little improvement for the first six or seven days, and then it heals practically overnight. Fingers crossed you'll feel better soon


    Thanks man, that's what I'm hoping anyway. Like I say I was probably expecting too much too soon. Hope my last post didn't come off as panicked, it's just impatience really! Everything has been relatively smooth sailing so far. Been back at work for two days now and had no problems.

    I'm getting mine done this week. All i've bought so far is a big tub of vaseline, what else should i get to protect the penis when walking around or sleeping?

    What do you mean my 3 layers of gauze?

    Thanks.

    Just from my own experience I haven't needed anything on it at all if I'm naked from the waist down. I can walk around and barely notice any difference.

    It's only when a foreign material is introduced (i.e. clothes) that I've had any issue. So far I've just been wrapping a light dressing (gauze bandage - which I was given by the nurse), smeared in vaseline, around the whole thing and leaving an opening at the top so I can urinate. Basically, I'm replicating the dressing I had after the op.

    If I'm going out and about I'm also wearing a pair of fairly well fitting briefs to keep the fella in place and that seems to help.

    If you take some time and read back through this thread there's lots of really helpful info. I'd be pretty clueless without it.

    It's worth taking the time to get what you need now and have it for when you get home. Nipping down the shops for something is a bit of a chore for the first few days!


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭westskipper


    Thanks again Westskipper, your advice has been invaluable.

    Whats the difference between inner and outer foreskin?

    My understanding is when flacid i can only see outer foreskin, its thick. When i pull it back it starts to reveal the inner foreskin which is the same bit of skin as the outer foreskin only its folded underneath and much thinner. How can you remove the outer foreskin and not the inner?

    The tight band that restricts the forskin from retracting when erect is where the outer foreskin ends and the inner foreskin begins.

    Hopefully you understand what i'm describing.

    Hi Scared Silly,

    just to clarify on the inner/outer foreskin thing:

    on an 'intact' penis, when flaccid all you will see is the outer foreskin, the inner foreskin is tucked underneath in the folds of bunched skin at the end of the penis.
    as the penis gets erect, the inner foreskin starts to become visible as the soft thin pink skin which is attached very closely behind the glans and extends back the shaft for about 1 1/2 inches, where it gradually fuses into the outer foreskin. Like you, i had the tight phimotic band in the area where the inner and outer foreskins meet.

    The inner foreskin is generally a lot more sensitive than the outer foreskin.
    So in general it is a good idea to retain a decent amount of inner foreskin when it comes to circumcision. Generally you will have 2 - 3 inches of foreskin removed from the shaft, and the cut ends stitched together.

    the surgeon will have to decide with (your help) where exactly to place the cut - too close to the glans and you will lose too much of the sensitive inner foreskin, but obviously less outer foreskin, as the amount of foreskin removed overall will be the same anyway.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Funky G wrote: »
    i did put to him could a preputioplasty solve the problem but, he said no, a full circ would be needed, in essence, kill two birds with one stone.
    Look through the thread and this seems to be the stock response of the Irish doctors folks here have encountered.

    Funky G if you want to keep your penis as much as before then the question I'd ask your doctor would be is "have you ever done a preputioplasty procedure before?". I think you'll find he hasn't or doesn't know how. The stock response of "doctor knows best" is not always the case.

    Second opinion time
    +1000. It sounds like the problem is gonna be finding a guy or gal up to speed in the various surgical techniques. I'd echo westskipper's take and look for a cosmetic surgeon.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭Stu


    I've decided after some consideration to have my Frenectomy done by an other Urologist. I had already had the OP booked for 6 weeks time with the Urologist who did my Frenuloplasty but having read what Westskipper said, i think hes spot on, in that i need to see a specialist, i.e - somebody who has prior experience of carryiing out a Frenectomy as opposed to a Urologist who is was reluctantly performing a Frenectomy, probably because hes little or no experience in doing this procedure.

    The Urologist i spoke to last week really put me at ease and told me after checking me out, that indeed, all i needed was a Frenectomy and it would be a simple operation. He actually offered to do a partial circumcision (although i'm happy to just have the Frenectomy, fairly sure phimosis won't be an issue for me), he reckons that i may have slight phimosis and would take off half an inch of the foreskin from the tip as well as the frenulum but keeping most of the foreskin in the process but he left it up to me.

    I'm delighted that i can get the surgery done thats applicable to me without being told i need a full circumcision just because the Urologist says thats all he will do. All Urologists should be trained to the same standard as the guy i am seeing otherwise they shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a penis, ,unless its outside of working hours and they are that way inclined :D.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 scared_silly


    Hi Scared Silly,

    just to clarify on the inner/outer foreskin thing:

    on an 'intact' penis, when flaccid all you will see is the outer foreskin, the inner foreskin is tucked underneath in the folds of bunched skin at the end of the penis.
    as the penis gets erect, the inner foreskin starts to become visible as the soft thin pink skin which is attached very closely behind the glans and extends back the shaft for about 1 1/2 inches, where it gradually fuses into the outer foreskin. Like you, i had the tight phimotic band in the area where the inner and outer foreskins meet.

    The inner foreskin is generally a lot more sensitive than the outer foreskin.
    So in general it is a good idea to retain a decent amount of inner foreskin when it comes to circumcision. Generally you will have 2 - 3 inches of foreskin removed from the shaft, and the cut ends stitched together.

    the surgeon will have to decide with (your help) where exactly to place the cut - too close to the glans and you will lose too much of the sensitive inner foreskin, but obviously less outer foreskin, as the amount of foreskin removed overall will be the same anyway.


    Thanks again WS, i really apreciate your help, it means a lot...D Day is not far off for me so i'll keep ye guys updated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 scared_silly


    I made it....i'm still alive!!

    and tbh it so far has been a walk in the park (probably speaking too soon tho :o)


    Had the op on thursday. I was very nervous all day and nervous during the op but all in all it was grand. I was laid down and cleaned before the op and given the local anesthetic. I was laid flat down so i could just stare up at the roof. The Urologist came in an explained the procedure and how long it would take. They put up a curtain below to block off my view from the proceedings, thank god.

    During the op i could feel them moving my penis around and every so often id feel a little prick now and again but nothing major. The Urologist and Nurses kept talking during the op, engaging me in conversation which helped. I did start to get a bit antsy and restless around the 30 min mark just wishing for it to end mostly because my body started to cramp up from not moving and trying to stay perfectly still, other than that it was over in 45 mins. I was given time just to lie there after because i was dizzy from being upside down, then a half an hour later i was dressed and ready to go out the door.

    As i was leaving i was given my painkiller prescription so i had to pick that up before i went home. It was awkward but not painful to walk fully clothed as the exposed head was rubbing off my underwear. I got a taxi to my pharmacy, got my drugs and waddled to two min walk back to my house.

    When i got home i did fell pain even tho the local anesthetic was supposed to last a couple more hours, so i took a couple of pills and was grand. I have an apartment to myself so i sat bollox naked from the waist down for the day. Took a couple of pills before going to bed that night. I had a decent sleep that night.

    I woke up Good Friday, in no real pain whatsoever so i didn't bother taking any painkillers. I spent the day sitting on the couch watching tv, playing PlayStation, grand. There was no pain all day so i didn't take any pills.

    Its Saturday now and i didn't get a good nights sleep last night because of the dreaded morning glory. I woke up really early this morning because i had a morning glory. It wasn't really painful just awkward and i had to wake myself up fully so i could think non-sexy thoughts and get the boner to go away after i woke up fully i wasn't able to get back to sleep. So far today no need for painkillers, ill probably only take them before going to bed just in case.


    So far everything has been easier than i first imagined. I'm surprised and for some reason a little suspicious about how little pain i'm in? did i actually get a circ? or whats going on?

    Pissing standing up is impossible, how the piss come out of my penis defies the laws of physics, at one stage two streams were coming out at opposite 90 degree angles missing the bowl by a foot on either side :eek: after that i just sit down.

    I spend the day mostly bollox naked from the waist down, the only discomfort i get when the head rubs off my leg or anything. Getting to sleep last night was fine, i put on a pair of tight jocks to keep everything in place but the morning glory this morning woke me up and i couldn't get back to sleep.


    Other than a poor nights sleep last night, the op and the recovery phases have been grand and nothing to worry about. Next phase up is having a shower and wrapping the fella up for work on Monday and trying not to walk around like John Wayne in the office. Then on Tuesday i take the bandages off and viewing the damage and try not to overreact to what i see because its going to be a train wreck down there and be weeks/months before it looks normal again.


    So far so good but ill let ye know how i get on for the rest of the week. Thanks again everybody for their support and advice, its been a great help through an awkward and head wrecking time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Well done! Don't worry, you'll be grand on a week or so, it won't be a case on months hopefully.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Leo11


    Hi. Im 18 and i have left school a year. I still live at home and I have a tight foreskin and need to be circumcised. Thing is im only getting 40 euro on the dole a week and so i can hardly even afford the gp! How much does it all cost? I dont want to involve my parents obviously. thanks


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