xbox problem

weeder

hey hey ok long story short my friend is giving me his fuxed xbox and im going to try having a repair go so what happens is when he turns it on it blinks red and green doesnt try and boot 3 times that i know of but would a fix be as easy as using a different bios bank or modchip? btw though the manual says it its not overheating! because he had it off like +4hours and nothini really wanna fix this for myself as he said i can keep it in exchange for something of value and i have a load of xbox games from my old broken console
help greatly apreciated
thanks
sean

CiaranC

Does it show an error message onscreen?

weeder

no video afaik also i forgot to mention this box is fully stock never opened

qBot

The problem you have is called a "Frag". Is your xbox already modified. If so, most likely problem is that one of the solder points is loose. If you take a look on www.xbox-scene.com and do a search for frag on the forums you should find the answer you need.

weeder

as i said its not a frag it doesnt try to boot three times and its never been opened

qBot

Sorry, i didn't see the doesn't. Still though take a search through xbox-scene

qBot

These two threads might be helpful. However they don't give an explanation when your xbox is flashing red/green and it doesn't reboot. You say that it "doesnt try and boot 3 times that i know". If it is trying to reboot then you'll hear the hard or dvd drive kick in a few times (can't remember which), each kick signifying a reboot. Take a look here and here. What the threads state is that your xbox may be fixable with a modchip or it maybe the case that your motherboard is shot.

po0k

Chip it, replace the hdd, kiss XboxLive goodbye unless he does a stealth install.
IE. install the modded dashboards, apps etc. to the F: partition, leave the C: and E: partitions untouched, set modchip to boot from F:\unleashx.xbe etc.
When he wants to play on Live, turn off the modchip and the xbox will boot into the M$ dash.
Course, a 2nd hand xbox costs under 100euro, but mod it anyways.

weeder

do i HAVE to change the hdd or what?

po0k

If you want a stealth install, yeah, I think so.
Otherwise you can install the new dash on C:

qBot

SyxPak wrote:

Chip it, replace the hdd, kiss XboxLive goodbye unless he does a stealth install.
IE. install the modded dashboards, apps etc. to the F: partition, leave the C: and E: partitions untouched, set modchip to boot from F:\unleashx.xbe etc.
When he wants to play on Live, turn off the modchip and the xbox will boot into the M$ dash.
Course, a 2nd hand xbox costs under 100euro, but mod it anyways.

So what your saying is. That if he replaces the HD and installs a chip his xbox will be fixed. I think your talking through your ar*e tbh.

red_ice

could it be that he dropped the xbox and something is lose on the inside? Try a different hard drive?(ghost the xbox one to a fresh one)

Does it always come down to the chip with xbox's?

qBot

red_ice wrote:

could it be that he dropped the xbox and something is lose on the inside? Try a different hard drive?(ghost the xbox one to a fresh one)

Does it always come down to the chip with xbox's?

According to the threads I linked to on xbox-scene. They figure it usually comes down to either the Nvidia graphics chip gone bust, a bad bios dump or solder traces on the board . Because this xbox hasn't been opened its most like the two former options. A modchip could fix the middle option. I've gotten the red/green flashing before and it was always down to not soldering a modchip correctly. However in this case there is no modchip and no rebooting. I think the most anyone could say on this is just give a modchip a try and see does it work.

silverlining

Dont flame me for this, it has to be asked. Are you sure it's not flashing green/orange? That would mean the AV cable is plugged out...just checking

po0k

qBot wrote:

So what your saying is. That if he replaces the HD and installs a chip his xbox will be fixed. I think your talking through your ar*e tbh.

Really?

qBot wrote:

What the threads state is that your xbox may be fixable with a modchip or it maybe the case that your motherboard is shot.

qBot wrote:

I think the most anyone could say on this is just give a modchip a try and see does it work.

The ironing is particularly delicious this time of year.

I didn't say he *had* to get a new hard-drive. It's obviously optional, but it's still A Good Idea™ - funds permitting.

I was just suggesting he may want to try a modchip, or pickup a second xbox if it's convenient. Doesn't take much to solder a pinheader into both and test the modchip - but you're right - the xbox hasn't been opened so it may well be corrupted. A modchip may help (don't see how a softmod could be performed in this case), and having a modded xbox (soft/hard) is generally A Good Idea™

qBot

SyxPak wrote:

Chip it, replace the hdd, kiss XboxLive goodbye unless he does a stealth install.
IE. install the modded dashboards, apps etc. to the F: partition, leave the C: and E: partitions untouched, set modchip to boot from F:\unleashx.xbe etc.
When he wants to play on Live, turn off the modchip and the xbox will boot into the M$ dash.
Course, a 2nd hand xbox costs under 100euro, but mod it anyways.

Look, I don't see the point in starting a flame. It completely undermines the whole thread. weeder is asking for help and not a fight. However, can you please tell me how the above statement is a suggestion or even an answer. His Xbox is broken and your telling him to install a modchip a new hd and a softmod. The softmod has no bearing on whether the xbox will function or not (As you've stated yourself in a later post). So your overcomplicating and confusing the thread.

As for having my head up my arse. Can you please tell me how this is the case? I've been attempting to help weeder. I've also been polite in my responses. Except in my response to you. You were simply trying to show off the fact that you know something about modifying xboxs and your post wasn't helpful at all. I wasn't being arrogant. I was pointing out possible solutions and backing my comments up with relevant sources. As opposed to you backing up your comments with silly pictures.

silverlining

qBot take a chill pill, everyone's entitled to their say. If you dont like it then ignore it or at least be polite otherwise all you'll achieve is a flame war (AKA a really sad nerd fight).

darkmaster2

I agree that trying a modchip may sort it out. Its worth a try.

weeder

your all going crazy and i dont even have the xbox yet
but one thing i must say is that im no n00b to the interns of an xbox and softmodding an xbox now if its anything below a 1.5 i should be able to solder 2 wires on the mobo and use another bios bank

i havent used my xbox or an xbox modding forum in about a year since it died when i lifted a trace so im not 100% sure howto fix a coma console i remember it being on llama.com best xbox site tbh

weeder

i was just onto my friend he says Fan turns on and dies out, there is a click, fan turns on again and it flashes red+orange tries to boot twice