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DeVore - Congrats on the speach you gave in DCU teh other week, nicly done
As it is, I am looking into this idea and have developed some plans with others on tig about it. We also have people from other sites interested too. We know that there has always been a lot of talk about it, but nobody has ever actually formulated anything. I beilieve that with a lot of effort something like this can be achieved and can flurish. However, it cannot be be done by just a few people and hope that the community will accecpt it. Support would be needed by as many people and clans possible. It would be a large endevor to do but something that can be a resounding success.
I know that the already large community of irish gaming is going to expand with the launch of onling gaming with the "next gen" consoles and so to have some sort of resources or community in place is important.
I know that there are a lot of people who are intersted in some way with the idea of a irish gaming site that will offer services to people. By us [at tig] providing regular boards.ie users with admin access to our bf2 servers and 'rebranding' the servers so to speak for the community here at boards.ie is obviously just a small step to show that it can be done.
I really would like anyone's input or ideas or even their support in trying to develop the idea of a irish gaming site/community further. You can always pm me or mail me at: winters@theirishguard.com ... ta
Also, to what Tom said: If the idea was to go ahead we would love it to be associated with Boards.ie. Many of us first found our first roots here and we could never have come this far without boards.ie.
But please, anybody who is seriously intersted in the idea and will be willing to put some work in and bash around some ideas please contact me.0 -
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DeVore wrote:Ok... This is definitely back to our roots but I'm confused why you need our rubber stamping... or our involvement at all!
You have made contact with H365 (via this thread), you have the community (we'll assist any non-profit attempt to make this work), you are keen to do this...
Why not do this yourself?
DeV.
No probs doing this myself at all really - it is just less daunting to do it with someone who has done something similar plenty of times already
You say you would be willing to provide assistance. What sort of assistance are you talking about?
Winters, I added you to MSN messenger. Could you add me please, would like to talk to you.
jesus_thats_great at hotmail dot come0 -
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As I said John, It isint something that we would look upon as being directly boards.ie or run by the admins at boards. I already know you have a hell of a lot of work on your plates with what would be nearly full time jobs in setting something of that size up. However to be associated and work closely with boards.ie providing information on the site that can be linked to boards users such as maybe downloads and servers.
Also visa versa
Re steve. I've add you as soon as I can and will hopefully get onto you then. Im quite busy for the next couple of days with society work in dcu.0 -
One of the main problems with Irish online gaming servers, is that they are rarely used. For example, the Quake4 server hosted by Dark Keep is being taken down, because nobody uses it anymore, and even when the game Quake 4 was new, it got very little use. This is the case with most games, except for CS and BF2 and a couple of others I suppose. In most of the games, the servers remain empty because there is no active community which drives them. I agree that boards.ie is in a unique position to fuel this kind of activity. It could be done only by getting all ye casual gamers off your armchairs and onto servers regularly, reviving enthusiasm with internal boards.ie leagues, and clans, a couple of mini prizes here and there.
There are so many people on these boards who know all the ins and outs of Red Alert, and who sometimes play FPS games online but never stick with it for very long... for lack of a better word - n00bs
. One of the main reasons these players never stick with it, is because there is no community. I experienced this myself recently in Call of Duty 2 - played for several weeks on the most Irish servers I could find (namely the IRA server, and 1st-IB) both of which were hosted in UK as it happens, as there were no Irish servers, but I quit soon enough because there was nothing to keep me there. There were no familiar faces, no new Irish clans appearing, no hope of an Irish league on the horizon... there wasn't even an Irish community channel on Quakenet.
A range of boards.ie servers would bring the n00bs together, and you'd see the names you recognise, and you'd be able to post on boards.ie and discuss the games ye are playing. Once a group of people who kind of know each other start playing together regularly on the same servers, then a community starts up, and there are very few of these in Ireland. A concrete example of this is the Unreal community, at www.unreal.ie - which, aside from the DZR players, started with boards.ie gaming nights on the UT board. boards.ie provides the infinite amount of fresh faces, which is what you need to keep any gaming community alive.
I posted a column recently about the need for a community like this on quake.ie: http://www.quake.ie/post.asp?item=1799 - a community which bridges the communities. Quake had a decent community, Unreal has a decent community, but there is no interaction between these communities. This is bad for the greater Irish gaming scene because a smaller group of communities will die out easier than one which is held together by something greater. An example of this is the Lithuanian gaming community, which has http://www.e-sports.lt/ - the site which all serious Lithuanian gamers use as a base for their community, photographs/bios/news from all games. When some guy goes out and buys a new game, he needs to know where to go online to play it. There is no central site which tells you where the servers are, where you can see what communities are active, where you can view all the Irish leagues in progress. I would love it if this service existed - the holy grail of online gaming for me is an Irish league. We had them in QuakeWorld, and in Quake3... I even started playing CS just to have a taste of the Irish CS clan scene, and entered a team of Quakers into the ICSC.
I was going to make a site myself, a few months ago, to do this. Its goal was to bring the Irish communities together, and revive online gaming in Ireland. I wanted to see an Irish team in EVERY Clanbase Opencup, and a nations cup team in every NC game. After a few years with a bit of luck, we'd have a few in the Eurocups, and eventually we'd have medal hopes at the CPL and ESWC. It wasn't so long ago that there were some of the best players in the world in Ireland, both in Quake and in Counter Strike, and I am very disappointing to see that Irish gaming is currently on a slippery slope, with a pathetic clan scene, and this is exactly the kind of thing that is needed to revive it. The site would have been basically a link between the communities, a forum, details on all the servers, mirroring their news, hosting some leagues if possible... whatever could help.
The reason I didn't go ahead with the site is because I know that these sites usually fail due to a lack of activity, and a lack of community. These sites need to be updated very regularly, and they need someone with loads of enthusiasm and time (which I lack) to run them. There is no bigger community, and there is no greater activity in Ireland than right here.
My 2c:
I noticed on the Blacknight Blog a couple of days ago, www.gaming.ie has expired and is available. Buy this domain. DeVore has given the green light - get it integrated with boards.ie somehow. Not as a community board, or a hosted board, it has to be better than that. Get an announcement across all forums calling all gamers. Get servers from somewhere - this is not the big money issue that some people make it out to be, all you need are 6 game servers, which could be hosted on 2 or 3 different physical servers, GSPs have donated servers for community use in the past, and if you made a good case of it they would do so again, even if its temporary. Thats the easy part, the difficult thing is keeping the activity going.
I would like to see sponsorship of 500+ Euros and the launch of an inaugural tournament, spanning a couple different games, with prize money + free boards.ie sub accounts. An annual competition which caters for all active games, like the PCZone cups that are hosted by Jolt but sponsored by PCZone. Get talking to the GameCon/Darkside/Midlans/Mindphuck lads and see what ideas they have regarding LANs.0 -
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