3-4 hour commuters who bought houses question for you

delly

MorningStar wrote:

Well not really nobody has really come on here saying I do this and have this situation and I am fine with it. We have people saying it is worth it but they don't live like that . People are just talking about how it can be done which is fine but how many people are doing it and how do they feel. As I said earlier my friend is loosing his friends not a party animal thing just he has no time to see his old friends or make new ones.

Actually one person came on here talking about their commute and saying how horrible it is now becasue their job moved.

All for choice but people doing this aren't defending this, people speculating about possibilities are.

Well, my company moved location and the commute is extra, but i don't blame where i'm living now for that, i blame the boss . I'm very happy with my situation and honestly feel that i'll be in my current home for a long time. I simply love my house and love the area, as well as Drogheda being a very friendly place right next to me.

Most of my good friends are in Austrailia, and this happened before I moved so its not a big factor. I'm not a pub/clubbing type person, but anytime i do want to go out, Drogheda is again beside me.

I'll be honest and say that before the move i wasn't 100% sure if i was making the right move, but one year on, i'm very glad i did.

Kersh

Have tom agree with you there, im just about to do this, but then I have my own circumstances. There arent too many ppl on defending their 3 hr + commute..

ronbyrne2005

if you can rent for less than mortgage you shouldconsider renting and invest the money saved per month into your pension ,you get nearly double your money instantly(through tax relief)along with good investment returns and over the term of a normal mortgage(30 years) you will have extra in your pension fund worth the price of a house or more.

delly

Kersh wrote:

Have tom agree with you there, im just about to do this, but then I have my own circumstances. There arent too many ppl on defending their 3 hr + commute..

Well i'm touching 4 hours, and my previous post still stands.

ronbyrne2005

magpie wrote:

Wow. A whole 5 years? :rolleyes: Yes, you have to apply for permission, but the current scheme in Dublin City Council is to sell at 33% reduction on market rate. You then sit on it for 5 years in which time it accrues even more value.




Yes, has to be owner/occupier but big deal. Lots of owner occupiers queueing up to buy corpo gaffs.



You're in a 2 bed corpo house in D4. Value €500k. Buy it for €335 - instant €165k profit. Sit on it for 5 years and it increases in value to c. €600k. Now you sell it and take your €265k to Kildare, where you buy a 3 bed house for €200k, a Mercedes for €50k and have €15k to spend in the pub.



Yes, the guy I bought my house off.



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now theres talk by socialist councillors in dublin council of giving them the houses for even cheaper if they are on dole etc!(obviously looking for votes in Sinn fein area's) basically they are saying let them pay what they can afford! so give a 400k house near harcourt street to joe dole who hasnt worked in 20 years and let him pay 150euro a moth to own! they shouldnt be allowed to sell it for more than they get it for and shoud have to pay back any surplus or else pay market rate .

MorningStar

delly wrote:

Well, my company moved location and the commute is extra, but i don't blame where i'm living now for that, i blame the boss . I'm very happy with my situation and honestly feel that i'll be in my current home for a long time. I simply love my house and love the area, as well as Drogheda being a very friendly place right next to me.

I get the it wasn't by choice and your connection now to the area makes it very different. There are a million and one good reasons to move if your conditions are right. I don't have kids or plan to so schools being handy to me makes no difference. Lots of personal choices and factors but a 3-4 hour commute by choice to have a bigger house at the cost of the rest of your life seems to have no merrit. I hear peopl lying about ther commutes all the time by not including time to get to and from the train. It takes 40 minutes by trian yet door to to it actually take a 1 hour45 minutes but often longer. It is quite natural for people to talk better about their situation but some really seem to lie to themselves.

I could never move to Drogheda as I'd be done for murder. The accent would eventually drive me to it. Cork is off the list to for the same reason "boy", Athlone too . Donegal is fine but they have no hospitals and it is possible to be done for murder without actually do one so that's a no too. looks like I am staying put but I do like Nice and warmth could attrached me away.

TheBlock

In reply to the original question....I moved from the City Centre (Marino) 2 years ago.

Although originally from the otherside of the city centre (Ringsend) the move was quite easy as it was approx 15 mins by car at the weekend or 40 mins during the week (That's right 45 mins in traffic from Marino to Donnybrook).

As I said moved from Marino and now commute takes me 1hr.30 mins every day to get to work. and 1.30 at least to get home so thats 3 Hrs commute daily.

I moved to Kinsealy north county Dublin less than 9 miles from my job in Donnybrook. If some one can drive into work in less than 1 hour they are doing very well (Driving's a must for me Kid in Creche beside me and wife works up the road). I leave the house at 7.30 each morning and am not home until after 6.30...I'm happy with this it's part of the trade off when buying the house you want. Could have bought closer to the city but wouldn't have got as much bang for my buck.... and would have only saved about 20-30 mins a day.

3hr commutes are not reserved for those coming from outside Dublin.

Does anyone know where the city ends???

MorningStar

TheBlock wrote:

I moved to Kinsealy north county Dublin less than 9 miles from my job in Donnybrook. If some one can drive into work in less than 1 hour they are doing very well (Driving's a must for me Kid in Creche beside me and wife works up the road). I leave the house at 7.30 each morning and am not home until after 6.30...I'm happy with this it's part of the trade off when buying the house you want. Could have bought closer to the city but wouldn't have got as much bang for my buck.... and would have only saved about 20-30 mins a day.

3hr commutes are not reserved for those coming from outside Dublin.

Does anyone know where the city ends???

The canals. Marino is not the city centre and is desgined based on a spinning wheel becasue the areas association with sheeps wool.

THe difference is not that your commute takes 3 hours but everything else also takes longer and you can't stay in touch with friends. Your journey takes time due to traffic but to get to your family in MArino it is only 20 minutes not 1-2 hours. YOu didn't sacrifice your life for a house you traded off the benifits. THere are good services and shops near you so to do anything else doesn't take you hours to do. You can use a city car with low consumption in traffic.

delly

MorningStar wrote:

I get the it wasn't by choice and your connection now to the area makes it very different. There are a million and one good reasons to move if your conditions are right. I don't have kids or plan to so schools being handy to me makes no difference. Lots of personal choices and factors but a 3-4 hour commute by choice to have a bigger house at the cost of the rest of your life seems to have no merrit. I hear peopl lying about ther commutes all the time by not including time to get to and from the train. It takes 40 minutes by trian yet door to to it actually take a 1 hour45 minutes but often longer. It is quite natural for people to talk better about their situation but some really seem to lie to themselves.

I could never move to Drogheda as I'd be done for murder. The accent would eventually drive me to it. Cork is off the list to for the same reason "boy", Athlone too . Donegal is fine but they have no hospitals and it is possible to be done for murder without actually do one so that's a no too. looks like I am staying put but I do like Nice and warmth could attrached me away.

Well where i'm living is just before Drogheda, and of the 10 houses beside me, 8 belong to Dubliners so the accent isn't that common

But seriously tho' i love it up here, even with the 4 hour commute. You don't see the merit, but it goes back to the whole horses for courses thing.

/EDIT btw i have a company car which is a benefit

MorningStar

delly wrote:

Well where i'm living is just before Drogheda, and of the 10 houses beside me, 8 belong to Dubliners so the accent isn't that common

But seriously tho' i love it up here, even with the 4 hour commute. You don't see the merit, but it goes back to the whole horses for courses thing.

/EDIT btw i have a company car which is a benefit

My boss would need to double my wages to make it worth my while. 20 hours versus 2.5 hours commute. I love my house and area too I guess. Being slightly on the green side of things I don't rely on a car and think it awful wasteful and to a certain extent selfish. If I had kids I certainly wouldn't want to pay somebody else to take care of them for an extra 3 hours a day or put it mostly on my partner. My quality of life is for family and friends so I prefer to work to live not live to work. Strokes for folkes as you say but after living a bit I realised you just don't know how long you will be here or anybody else. I'd sacrifice a lot for a minute to talk to some people I don't think anybody says that about spending more time commuting.

magpie

How many corpo places are left that didn't have the right to buy option taken up years ago? Don't these people have to have paid rent for the whole time they have been there too. I thought the veting was more than just owner occupier but I may be wrong

You'd be amazed. I know of entire streets where the option has not been taken up by the tenants, despite the fact they are working. I suppose their logic is why pay €1200 a month mortgage when you can have the same house in perpetuity for €30 a week rent.

many people who lived in corpo houses do actually work and couldn't afford to buy so were helped by the government. What is your problem with that?

Sure in the 60s/70s/80s when these houses were built times were tough. Now there's 100% employment and equal opportunity for all, so why does one sector of society get cheap/free housing while the "Middle Class" are left to fend for themselves?

they shouldnt be allowed to sell it for more than they get it for and shoud have to pay back any surplus or else pay market rate .

Bingo - if you have to be housed by the State then the state should own and control that property - not sanction the gross profiteering at the taxpayers' expense that's now happening.

delly

MorningStar wrote:

My boss would need to double my wages to make it worth my while.

So you at least admit in certain circumstances it can be worthwhile, although it kind of weakens your main argument if it would be worth your while for monetary gain.

MorningStar wrote:

Being slightly on the green side of things I don't rely on a car and think it awful wasteful and to a certain extent selfish.

In fairness thats a whole different argument. Seems to me that you can't really accept that someone can be happy to do a long commute, so you then have to brand them as 'selfish' for making that choice. You wanted the reality in your OP and the reality is that i'm happy.

MorningStar wrote:

My quality of life is for family and friends so I prefer to work to live not live to work.

Well thats a tad insulting, as you are implying that your quality of family life is better than mine just cause you have a shorter commute. I could easily say mine is better because i have a nice house, but i wouldn't because its all about what you want and not the next guy.

Neighbours making noise in my last house drove me mental, and thats definitely a quality of life issue to me, but it may be something that wouldn't bother you. I wouldn't criticise you for it tho'.

MorningStar

delly wrote:

So you at least admit in certain circumstances it can be worthwhile, although it kind of weakens your main argument if it would be worth your while for monetary gain.

Not really the same but the reality is my wages aren't going to double neither or anybodiy elses if they buy a house further away.

delly wrote:

In fairness thats a whole different argument. Seems to me that you can't really accept that someone can be happy to do a long commute, so you then have to brand them as 'selfish' for making that choice. You wanted the reality in your OP and the reality is that i'm happy.

Just because I didn't state all my views on everything doesn't mean anything other than that I am adding to my previous comments. Using more resources than anybody else so that you have a better quality of life by your standards is selfish. You cause congestion to be worse for others so you have what you want guess what that is called. I accept everybody does harm by existing but I rate trying to reduce that harm you don't fine your choice.
You are happy after somebody else made the choice and you didn't want to change jobs or loose your house fair enough but you at least implied that your journey is now bad by stating "his wasn't too bad, but then" so it changed to what just bad.

delly wrote:

Well thats a tad insulting, as you are implying that your quality of family life is better than mine just cause you have a shorter commute. I could easily say mine is better because i have a nice house, but i wouldn't because its all about what you want and not the next guy.

Take it as you like if you spend longer with your car than your family tell me that means you are spending enough time with them. It doesn't matter why you spend more time with your car it is just a fact you choose to. I only meant to say I would rather spend time with my family and that is how I judge my quality of life if you want to say you judge yours on having a nice house that's fine. Do you think having a nice house is more important than spending time with your family?

delly wrote:

Neighbours making noise in my last house drove me mental, and thats definitely a quality of life issue to me, but it may be something that wouldn't bother you. I wouldn't criticise you for it tho'.

So far you have rated your quality of life on the ability to listen to your tv loud, your house being nice and not having to deal with noisy neighbours. Your family don't sound important for your quality of life but as you say strokes for folkes I think differently. I guess you are happy with your trade off for the things you like I now know why you are willing to commute. I have no opinion on whether that is right or wrong I just would rather not live that way .

ronbyrne2005

i think a lot of people convince themselves that they have a good quality of life commuting because they have got so used to it,many are kidding themselves.

delly

MorningStar wrote:

Your family don't sound important for your quality of life

Another comment that i would class as insulting. Its like you are trying to win the argument by suggesting that i don't care much for my family by having a long commute, and also by me naming a few benefits of having a better house further out, i.e. your getting personal.

As you said 'Just because I didn't state all my views on everything doesn't mean anything'. Therefore just because i don't give details on how i spend my family time means nothing.

MorningStar

ronbyrne2005 wrote:

i think a lot of people convince themselves that they have a good quality of life commuting because they have got so used to it,many are kidding themselves.

I think many people have different views on what is important too. There is an element of lying to ones self too, most aren't really lying directly.

MorningStar

delly wrote:

Another comment that i would class as insulting. Its like you are trying to win the argument by suggesting that i don't care much for my family by having a long commute, and also by me naming a few benefits of having a better house further out, i.e. your getting personal.

As you said 'Just because I didn't state all my views on everything doesn't mean anything'. Therefore just because i don't give details on how i spend my family time means nothing.

Call it what you like I can only base what is important to you by what you are saying. Given what you said the conclusion I have come to is not unrealistic. The things you said were good about it were as I stated. I spoke about family and friends many times and the importance of them. In the light of all this talk of family you focused on things and personal pleasures. I have no arguement to win. I wanted to understand what people thought was important to buy a house and sacrifice friends and family along with personal time. You put forward reasons and never mentioned loss of family time. I took that as you not rating the loss when compared to your house as your view.

I fleahed out my view you chose what to talk about and the values you found important. You did not mention family. Don't get mad at me for pointing out what you said and how that displays your view.

Maxwell

The same debate rolls on.

But most don't actually see the big picture. Most people currently living in Dublin with parents/renting and want to buy a house, usually have to move to the surrounding counties to find a house affordable and then commute back to Dublin...look outside the box for gods sake.

I moved from Dublin a few years ago and work near enough where I live in a country area and wouldn't move back to Dublin if someone doubled my present wages - and that is a fact, just wouldn't do it! I love where I live and love the house I live in. I made the decision to live in the area/house that I wanted, not so as it was near to my job. The job then follows.

There are 4million in Ireland and 1/4 of these are losing the rat race from commuting between Dublin and the surrounding areas.

Life is too short, and life certainly doesn't revolve around Dublin, no matter what way you want to think it does.

Life is great!

delly

MorningStar wrote:

Call it what you like I can only base what is important to you by what you are saying. Given what you said the conclusion I have come to is not unrealistic. The things you said were good about it were as I stated. I spoke about family and friends many times and the importance of them. In the light of all this talk of family you focused on things and personal pleasures. I have no arguement to win. I wanted to understand what people thought was important to buy a house and sacrifice friends and family along with personal time. You put forward reasons and never mentioned loss of family time. I took that as you not rating the loss when compared to your house as your view.

I fleahed out my view you chose what to talk about and the values you found important. You did not mention family. Don't get mad at me for pointing out what you said and how that displays your view.

Well you made no mention of your home, am I to take it that you don't count it as important, and that your crammed into a shoebox in a run down estate? Well, no, because I would be making assumptions about something that you didn’t say. Again I’ll quote you on this:

morningstar wrote:

Just because I didn't state all my views on everything doesn't mean anything

Your contradicting your own viewpoint to suit the debate.

nlgbbbblth

I was working in Blackrock and decided to buy a house in Newbridge.

The commute was 4 hours a day on a combination of train, bus and DART. I stuck it for 12 months.

Simple solution: I got a job in Naas and the commute is down to about 20mins each way.

Some people may not realise this but just because you buy outside Dublin doesn't mean you have to commute to Dublin. There are jobs outside the capital city too.

MorningStar

delly wrote:

Well you made no mention of your home, am I to take it that you don't count it as important, and that your crammed into a shoebox in a run down estate? Well, no, because I would be making assumptions about something that you didn’t say. Again I’ll quote you on this:

I did say I loved my home not my fault you don't remember. You can assume what you like but I have only pointed out what you said

delly wrote:

Your contradicting your own viewpoint to suit the debate.

No I am not I asked about how the loss of family and friends would be important to me. You proceeded to say your friends didn't matter as they went to Australia and never mentioned your family and how the loss of time bothered you. Instead you talked about the things you liked about youre house and location. You still have not said the loss of time with your family bothers you. You are just getting thick with me for pointing out what you are saying. If somebody took something up wrong with me that I took personal I would point out where they got my view wrong first not attack them for pointing out what I said. No contradiction as you haven't added a new view

nlgbbbblth wrote:

Some people may not realise this but just because you buy outside Dublin doesn't mean you have to commute to Dublin. There are jobs outside the capital city too.

Well as this thread is about those who DO decide to commute. It is also not about your commute only but the loss of personal contact with friends and family.

delly

MorningStar wrote:

I did say I loved my home not my fault you don't remember.

My bad, just looked back over your posts

You have said that you have an extra 20 hours per week. Am i wrong to presume that you have to travel soom distance to work or do you teleport in? Also its possible that you could work a 8 or 9 hour day, i work 7.5, so thats extra time i may have over you, although you'll probably see this as irrelevent as its nothing to do with the commute.

TBH, you have asked about people who make this commute and if they are happy, and I am. The reason i have not said that the loss of family time bothers me is because it doesn't, relating to the extra commute time. If I could i wouldn't work at all and spend all day at home, but thats not reality.I don't think that you can accept that someone can be happy in this situation and that your happy with the thought that if somebody is content, that they are kidding themselves or as you said 'There is an element of lying to ones self', or there is some other negative impact that they can't see like been selfish to the environment. You shouldn't really ask for peoples experiences or your not willing to believe them, or point out how flawed they are.

Maxwell

nlgbbbblth wrote:

I was working in Blackrock and decided to buy a house in Newbridge.

The commute was 4 hours a day on a combination of train, bus and DART. I stuck it for 12 months.

Simple solution: I got a job in Naas and the commute is down to about 20mins each way.

Some people may not realise this but just because you buy outside Dublin doesn't mean you have to commute to Dublin. There are jobs outside the capital city too.

Well done!!

Exactly the point I was making, while the other two are fighting with each other.

If you choose to live outside Dublin and then commute back to it, and are then unhappy with it, you only have yourself to blame. There is a big world out there and unfortunately to some, it doesn't revolve around Dublin.

Although I love it that Im not being joined by these people as they are cringworthy when they come down to where I live. "You live in the middle of nowhere" - even though they live in Kildare/Louth/Courtown. Its amazing how these people actually thinking that Kildare is part of Dublin now:rolleyes:
Continue on your rat race, while the rest of us laugh at you when the reports on AA roadwatch come in.

delly

Maxwell wrote:

Well done!!

Exactly the point I was making, while the other two are fighting with each other.

If you choose to live outside Dublin and then commute back to it, and are then unhappy with it, you only have yourself to blame. There is a big world out there and unfortunately to some, it doesn't revolve around Dublin.

Although I love it that Im not being joined by these people as they are cringworthy when they come down to where I live. "You live in the middle of nowhere" - even though they live in Kildare/Louth/Courtown. Its amazing how these people actually thinking that Kildare is part of Dublin now:rolleyes:
Continue on your rat race, while the rest of us laugh at you when the reports on AA roadwatch come in.

lol, i hear you m8. Thats in the plans all right, but for the moment i'm actually happy were i am, but if and when i do change, the local area will be the focus of my searching.

Saruman

If i can find a job in Mullingar that would be sweet. Not too many IT jobs there but there are some. I love where i live, small enough and surrounded by countryside and lakes to give me some sense of serenity while close enough to a large town like Mullingar to be convenient. Right on the M4 (will have our own junction this year too!!). Short trip to Dublin or Athlone.. 2 hours or so to Galway. I would not move back to Dublin unless i won the lotto and could buy some land and build my own house in Dublin though not the City. Even then i might not bother!!

I like Dublin, the city centre anyway... not so fond of a lot of crap like scumbags and traffic chaos there but im happy where i am.

MorningStar

delly wrote:

My bad, just looked back over your posts

You have said that you have an extra 20 hours per week. Am i wrong to presume that you have to travel soom distance to work or do you teleport in? Also its possible that you could work a 8 or 9 hour day, i work 7.5, so thats extra time i may have over you, although you'll probably see this as irrelevent as its nothing to do with the commute.

I did say I travel 30 minutes a day to work and said 20+versus 2.5. I also do 7.5 hours in work. I said 20+ because of additional things like going to the shops takes time.

delly wrote:

TBH, you have asked about people who make this commute and if they are happy, and I am. The reason i have not said that the loss of family time bothers me is because it doesn't, relating to the extra commute time. If I could i wouldn't work at all and spend all day at home, but thats not reality.I don't think that you can accept that someone can be happy in this situation and that your happy with the thought that if somebody is content, that they are kidding themselves or as you said 'There is an element of lying to ones self', or there is some other negative impact that they can't see like been selfish to the environment. You shouldn't really ask for peoples experiences or your not willing to believe them, or point out how flawed they are.

SO you got thick with me after not paying attention to me and the fact I pointed out correctly that you don't care (doesn't bother you) that you have lost the time with your family. I can accept people are happy with this becasue they rate different things highly than I do. An element of lying to ones self was direct reference to commute times and yes I do think people lie to themselves about their lives. You don't?
I have not said I don't believe you I have said I rate family and friends over personal possesions. You failed to remember what I have said and keep putting words into my mouth. I pointed out what you said and now you admit you don't care about the loss of family time yet you got angry becasue I pointed out your view. I believe you are happy with your life and possesions. You never really told me of your experience. What time do you get up at? What time do you go to bed at? How much time do you actually get to spend at home? How do you see your parents, brother ,sister, in-laws etc...? How much petrol do you use? If you paid for your car how much would it coast you a year? These would tell me more about your experience

LegacyUser

Maxwell wrote:

Well done!!

Exactly the point I was making, while the other two are fighting with each other.

If you choose to live outside Dublin and then commute back to it, and are then unhappy with it, you only have yourself to blame. There is a big world out there and unfortunately to some, it doesn't revolve around Dublin.
.

You are 100% right.

I will buy outside Dublin (well my 1st property will be outside Dublin) and I will commute, and if I don't like it I will either ask my job for a transfer 9as we have offices in Tullamore and I plan on moving to Portarlington), or I will change Jobs entirely, or, I will return to Dublin.

I WONT commute everyday for 5 years and complain about it.

If I make a choice to move to Portarlington and commuting is a major problem for me I will do something about it

MorningStar

FOCUS
THe thread is about those who do commute not those who live outside Dublin and like it. THere are lots of places to talk about that. THe effects of the commute and loss of connections to family and friends. I guess it really only applies to thoses individuals or couples from Dublin who commute to Dublin to work. A 3 hour city commute is not the same as after rush hour and there are convenices of living in the city and suburbs that normally let you catch up on things.

delly

FORD
I think i'll bail out at this stage, yes i'm wrong, yes your right, yes i don't care about family time, yes i love spreading pollution, yes i can't handle your retorts, yes i'm lying to myself.

I know there is some off thread replys, but jeez, not by much. I'll think twice before trying to provide you with some insights by replying to another question in the future.

connundrum

delly wrote:

FORD
I think i'll bail out at this stage, yes i'm wrong, yes your right, yes i don't care about family time, yes i love spreading pollution, yes i can't handle your retorts, yes i'm lying to myself.

I know there is some off thread replys, but jeez, not by much. I'll think twice before trying to provide you with some insights by replying to another question in the future.

LOL

Maxwell

Lets leave Morning Star to fight with himself.

MorningStar

Maxwell wrote:

Lets leave Morning Star to fight with himself.

Grand if you have nothing to contribute you are not welcome.

Delly
You have a problem as I have never stated right or wrong and you keep accusing me of saying things I didn't say when I point out what you say you feel insulted.

connundrum

MorningStar wrote:

Grand if you have nothing to contribute you are not welcome.

Delly
You have a problem as I have never stated right or wrong and you keep accusing me of saying things I didn't say when I point out what you say you feel insulted.

If you didn't state whether someone was right or wrong, you definitely give the impression that you think you're right. You don't listen to argument, if someone gives a good answer, you change the origional question to suit your argument and then start off again.

And like someone said, the thread may have strayed a few feet either way, but its not a yes/no answer. A bridge may come in handy

cournioni

Personally, I wouldn't live in Dublin if you payed me. I was there for three to four months for college before I decided that the course and college wasn't for me. Apart from having a great selection of things to do, I felt that the quality of life was, to be honest... Shíte.

I can understand why people like to get away from Dublin, they don't want to have to pay huge amounts of money for everything, they like to have a good house with good surroundings and alot of space. Here for example, you can take up hobbies like playing the guitar, drums, fishing etc. without getting any hassle what so ever. In Dublin, you wouldn't be allowed near a drum kit at certain hours, here you can do as you like. So while there is alot you can do in Dublin, like go to concerts/games every night there is, there is alot you can't do in Dublin, like the things listed above.

Having said that, I wouldn't be a fan of a commuting from here for an hour to and from Dublin five days a week. There is alot of people from this area that does it, and I personally can't understand how they can stand it.

MorningStar

connundrum wrote:

If you didn't state whether someone was right or wrong, you definitely give the impression that you think you're right. You don't listen to argument, if someone gives a good answer, you change the origional question to suit your argument and then start off again.

Shocking imagine somebody giving the impression that how there choice is right for them. I kept repeating how I felt family and friends were more important to ME. If that gives you the impression I think I am right that is your problem assuming what I mean versus what I am saying. Where have I changed the subject after a good point? Point it out instead of making a statement accusing me of something that you may have misunderstood or assumed my view.

connundrum wrote:

And like someone said, the thread may have strayed a few feet either way, but its not a yes/no answer. A bridge may come in handy

Hey presto I haven't actually said what is right or wrong. I explained a situation and asked other people in a similar situation how do they find it. People then list of their circumstances which weren't the same . I pointed out where they weren't the same. Threads go off topic very easily I want to keep it on point you don't like it then don't post or read it. I don't mind

MorningStar

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Personally, I wouldn't live in Dublin if you payed me. I was there for three to four months for college before I decided that the course and college wasn't for me. Apart from having a great selection of things to do, I felt that the quality of life was, to be honest... Shíte.

Well I am guessing your family and friends don't live here and they live else where. I can also guess your you were seperated from many friends and family when in Dublin. Most college students don't really live in Dublin when they are here the stay here during the week.

The Sweeper

The thing about buying way outside the capital city and then commuting for two hours to get into the city is that you can only do it short term.

That's because, as property development increases between your chosen home and your place of work, more and more people will be on the bus, or the train, or putting a car on the road.

10 years ago I could get a bus out of Bray and into Dublin in 50 minutes in the morning, as long as I got on it before 7.30am. These days it wouldn't matter what time I got the bus, it would still take well over 75 mins. Two hours in rush hour.

I moved to England because I felt like I'd missed the boat with the Irish property market. My plans over the next year are to move out of England and go further afield because I can't afford property here either.

Then again, I want to find a country where I can get a mortgage for 3 times my salary. Not five times mine and my partner's joined salaries.

I used to enjoy commuting to a degree - I made it into my "me" time. I read the paper cover to cover, did the crossword, read a book, listened to music, snoozed, wrote letters to people etc. etc. whenever I commuted over one hour. Now my commute is 40 minutes.

In a month I'm moving to working entirely from home, so I won't have a commute at all.

When you're commuting, you can't see the wood for the trees. It's so natural to commute you forget you have to do it. It's really easy to do that in Ireland, because you're usually commuting no more than 20 miles each way. Okay, it takes two hours to go that distance because the infrastructure's rubbish, but fact remains that if there's a bus strike you could still probably get a taxi home. (Or walk it if you're drunk enough. )

When I was working in the centre of London, if there was a transport strike I simply had to stay at home because, even though my train ride was 25 minutes, I live over 30 miles outside the city.

ronbyrne2005

buy a motor cycle and you'll beat the traffic and cut your commute!

Gurgle

ronbyrne2005 wrote:

buy a motor cycle and you'll beat the traffic and cut your commute!

Problem is you need a big-ish bike for safety on the donkey tracks and you need a small bike for filtering through lanes of cars.

Its a bit of a catch 22.

hepcat

I have never commuted for anything over 30 minutes, and hopefully never will. Our house is in an up-and-coming area because there are plenty people like us who see a huge advantage in being close to the city centre, andwho are snapping up houses there. I am sure we could get a new 3 bed in a dormer town for far less, but - especially with a kid - the commute would personally be hell. Could not face getting home at 8 pm, knackered and getting up at 6am, knackered, 5 days a week. I think lots of ppl shun the city becuase they want a brand new house with 3 bathrooms, but I'd prefer the time with my partner and kids.

magpie

up-and-coming area

Are you around the Liberties or similar?

cournioni

MorningStar wrote:

Well I am guessing your family and friends don't live here and they live else where. I can also guess your you were seperated from many friends and family when in Dublin. Most college students don't really live in Dublin when they are here the stay here during the week.

Nope, I have family in Foxrock and Sandyford. I just didn't like living there to be honest.