Pretentiousness in UCD

Dr. Octagon

LiouVille wrote:

You're making claims about people in UCD, I think what you're basing them on is relavent. Are you making gross generalisations, are can you be specific. How many people in each group do you personally know. This information gives weight to your claims, the lack of it casts doubt of them.

As for asking me, I wouldn't be so non-specific, and I'd at least have examples to back me up.

I'm sorry but you are a prime example of the "diverse vocabulary" argument. You are using terms like "gross generalisations" and "non-specific" and yet your grammar is terrible. Try using question marks...

pretty*monster

Dr. Octagon wrote:

I'm sorry but you are a prime example of the "diverse vocabulary" argument. You are using terms like "gross generalisations" and "non-specific" and yet your grammar is terrible. Try using question marks...

And you're argument shows that the anti-big-word posse are as, if not more, guilty of pretension as we big-wordians (as we shall henceforth be known).

The grammar was bad, but not so bad that any meaning was lost.
"Gross generalisations" and "Non-specific" are perfectly intelligible words that one hears all the time. Should they be stricken from the dictionary along with all polysyllabic?


Pray, what words would you have replaced "gross generalisations" and "non-specific" with?

Dr. Octagon

pretty*monster wrote:

And you're argument shows that the anti-big-word posse are as, if not more, guilty of pretension as we big-wordians (as we shall henceforth be known).

The grammar was bad, but not so bad that any meaning was lost.
"Gross generalisations" and "Non-specific" are perfectly intelligible words that one hears all the time. Should they be stricken from the dictionary along with all polysyllabic?


Pray, what words would you have replaced "gross generalisations" and "non-specific" with?

Don't be ridiculous, words are great whether they are big or small. My point is that they should only be used in their correct context and that includes the use of grammatically correct sentences.

besty

mike65 wrote:

ps Pretentious moi?

To be honest, you'll find pretentious people anywhere you go!

Stabshauptmann

Though I said it first tongue in cheek, it really is the empty vessels make the most noise

Samos

Umaro wrote:

that David McWilliams is a good writer, very umm.. i cant think of the word.. its like incisive i think? he's that.

i do commerce.

i am probably pretentious, i know it. i wear abercrombie, dolce, hilfiger, ralph lauren, american eagle and dubes. i dont care for the bohemian lifestyle or anyone who who wanders around with long hair being "different" and "alternative". i believe there are certain bands that college people like because thats whats being forced down their throats: the killers, arctic monkeys, franz ferdinand, kaiser chiefs. theyre all rubbish. i dont have any gay friends, its not that i have something against them, i just dont. i pretty much live off the bank of mum&dad and i couldnt care less what people think of me as a result. i am from the middle classes and i dont care. i wear what i like to wear, i dont go out of my way to make friends, i go to college and i come home. thats what i do.

Are you serious?

To the original poster: do you think that a tally of unsubstantiated generalisations with regard to appearance and assumed behaviour has any kind of beneficial role to play? It is lazy, convenient and above all, dangerously divisive to create within your mind an exclusive one-to-one relationship between a form of behaviour you dislike and a certain appearance that you associate with some people who exhibit this trait. This is the potent ingredient of prejudice and discrimination. Do not assume that another person is inferior to you because of some superficial qualities.

I reckon that if you made the effort to acknowledge and befriend some of the many people you denigrate, you would soon find that your original assumptions were unjustified. Should you find that they are in fact vulgar and misled, than you may try to persuade them in a personal capacity. Moaning and whining will never effect change. Go out there and be positive and appreciate diversity instead of being vitriolic. Rember that ever hour you spend in anger is sixty minutes less happiness!

The_Minister

Blush_01 wrote:

Am I the only one who noticed that there are two point 3)'s there? I was waiting for someone else to mention it, but nobody did...

I keep putting "k" in front of all the words I type that begin with "n". Now, I'm not the world's greatest speller, but I'm not dense - is "k" just taking over my brain?

So much tension, so little need for it!

I made a quiet little comment about it:

firespinner wrote:

I sometimes have a very diverse vocabulary. I must congradulate my post-primary pedagouges for that. On the other hand I still haven't found a PC swearword to replace "faggoty" since I hit college.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimes
2)Money : People who come from obvious wealthy families rubbing it in other peoples faces


Never seen this. Someone is jealous


Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimes
3)Bohemian Lifestyle: People who think their taste in music or lifestyle choices elevate them above other people


Dude! Open your mind and oppose the war.
and now for the other

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimes
3) Wealth induced poverty : My personal favourite, people from families with more money then sense pretending that they are broke, never enough money for a coffee but a pox on your if you dare call them working class.(how was your backpacking trip across Asia paid for when you never worked a day in your life pov?)


Are you talking about the "socialists" who come from rich backgrounds but manage to put on dub accents?

DirkVoodoo

Well, im an engineer so we sue lots of big words like 'Budweiser' and 'Nobleman fortified wine is only 4 euro in Lidl'

Ok, so not that big and hey, if you're looking' not even one word. I don't really notice it in UCD, maybe engineers don't use big words, I don't know.

One thing is for sure, you hear some god awful ****e if you take a wander through the arts block

Scraggs

DirkVoodoo wrote:

Well, im an engineer so we sue lots of big words like 'Budweiser' and 'Nobleman fortified wine is only 4 euro in Lidl'

rofl:D

ghostchant

I don't think people using 'big words' is something that you'd encounter much in the science buildings, what with our lack of need for them...well apart from all those big scientific wordamajigs (a wordamajig being specific type of thingamajig, for those of you whose vocubulary isn't advanced enough )

pretty*monster

DirkVoodoo wrote:

One thing is for sure, you hear some god awful ****e if you take a wander through the arts block

See stuff like that is what I hoped to get away from in college.

On any day in the arts block in between talking about drinking, sex, what was on telly last night, and the like, I'll be found chatting away about poetry, philosophy, theatre, politics (the real kind as opposed to the student kind) and similar '****e'.

It is not, in fact, because I am a pretentious orshole. The people I talk to about such things are rarely at all impressed by what I have to say. It just so happens that such ****e is of interest to me, and lucky for me, I have found friends in ucd with similar interests (I know, shocking isn't it, English and Philosophy students talking about English and Philosophy, outside class and everything).
We're not hurting anyone, we try not to do it in front of people who aren't interested in it, and really, it's no different to people talking about sports which I personally find completely unintelligible.

HappyCrackHead

i dont think thats the point of this... you can discuss your courses and topics and books you may have read with your fellow students no one is complaining about that.

its people who ACT like they're better than others, try to make others feel inferior by talking about particular topics with people they know havent a clue. you remember what it was like for me in first year with all you philosophy students, i thought you were all pretentious, turns out you were just wildly excited about dead guys...

but thats just people being people... its the pretentiousness of CERTAIN people that bothers me. you know who they are, you figure them out in around about 30 seconds...

Riamfada

man thats alot of reading. Happy a good discussion started. Just incase anyone thought i was bitching about anyone else I wasnt. I respect all. Even the d4 and the scobie and the nerd. Each to their own .

Samos

But if you really respected everyone then you wouldn't make character judgments based on appearance or use generalisations like these:

Grimes wrote:

...the d4 and the scobie and the nerd.

Riamfada

Samos wrote:

But if you really respected everyone then you wouldn't make character judgments based on appearance or use generalisations like these:

Well spotted. Give that man a can of coke

daRobot

Welcome to the world grimes.This isn't a phenomenon that ucd is a victim of.

Some people are twats of variable degrees (Depending on what grinds your gears), and some are sound(Also depending on what oils your gears) .Money and education are not really factors in this.

Instead of letting this annoy you, perhaps it's better to be safe in the knowledge that you see through their supposed transparency.

Riamfada

daRobot wrote:

Welcome to the world grimes.This isn't a phenomenon that ucd is a victim of.

Some people are twats of variable degrees (Depending on what grinds your gears), and some are sound(Also depending on what oils your gears) .Money and education are not really factors in this.

Instead of letting this annoy you, perhaps it's better to be safe in the knowledge that you see through their supposed transparency.

I was just trying to get a debate going. Was really wondering was it a common view. Dosn't bother me that much really. I have seen it everywhere in society but on the UCD forum I just asked UCD students about life in UCD.

The Gecko

Surely this thread was started to allow students from UCD to squawk on at each other with disdain and love for those challenged with poverty, wealth, their taste in music, sport, social behavior's or any idiosyncratic trait you can mention, all the while engaging in their favored pastime of belittling and entertaining the crowd with unnecessary sesquipedalian put-downs, perfect diction and punctuation.

arbeitsscheuer

The Gecko wrote:

Surely this thread was started to allow students from UCD to squawk on at each other with disdain and love for those challenged with poverty, wealth, their taste in music, sport, social behavior's or any idiosyncratic trait you can mention, all the while engaging in their favored pastime of belittling and entertaining the crowd with unnecessary sesquipedalian put-downs, perfect diction and punctuation.

I love you and I want to have your babies.

Excellent post.

humbert

SebtheBum wrote:

I love you and I want to have your babies.

do you really think that line's ever going to work:rolleyes:

arbeitsscheuer

humbert wrote:

do you really think that line's ever going to work:rolleyes:

Well... it hasn't yet... But when it does!

Hello!:cool: :rolleyes:

Blush_01

Geckos rock.

The Gecko

Many thanks for your kind comments.

SebtheBum wrote:

I love you and I want to have your babies.

Excellent post.

Not into the whole man love thing..... But best of luck with having kids....:D