More elections.

anonymous_joe

What was the topic? More elections? :rolleyes:

Anyone here know what this shower's supposed to do? Didn't bother voting in the last elections, and it wasn't apathy, I just feel that the amount of posturing and so on here is pathetic. What do you think you're playing at? Politics?

dajaffa

The thread's who's going 4 exec (Irish, finance, Comm + IT Women's officers as well as the programme reps for arts(2), business + law, Ag + Vet, sci, eng + arch, health sci and finally nursing. I'd put money down that for at least one of the rep positions nobody will run, most likely ag/vet, health sci or nursing. I'm actually thinking of going for health sci, but I'm Physio so if somebody from med goes I wouldn't have a prayer cause nursing is seperate to health sci for the PROs.

pretty*monster

anonymous_joe wrote:

Anyone here know what this shower's supposed to do? Didn't bother voting in the last elections, and it wasn't apathy, I just feel that the amount of posturing and so on here is pathetic. What do you think you're playing at? Politics?

The Finance Officer has the constitutional right to access all Students' Union accounts and reports to UnionExecutive and Union Council on financial matters, as well as drawing up the Union master budget with the Union President.


The Communications & Information Technology Officer is responsible for IT services of the Union. This includes email lists and the Union website. They are also responsible for the distribution of all Union publications and posters to all faculties.


The Irish Language Officer / Oifigeach na Gaeilge is responsible for the promotion of the Irish language within the Union, for the fostering of a bilingual culture within college and for the running of Seachtain na Gaeilge, the one-week celebration of Irish language and culture held after Christmas.


The Women's Officer works with the Welfare Vice President for the promotion of women's rights and to campaign on issues of specific concern to women, to organize the widespread availability of personal security alarms and to co-ordinate Women's Week after Christmas.


And the Programme Board Officers are... em... kind of a grey area. Co-ordinating class reps and being a point of contact I think. An extra layer of beurocracy maybe. I dunno, a whopping percentage of students voted in favour of them, maybe they could tell you.





Oh and, though I don't want to drag it up again, there are more than two women on ucd's "left". Lots more.

anonymous_joe

Less of the lefty-righty sh1t. Can't we all just be ambi-dextrous for once?

scop

Yeah, sometimes theres so many girls Chris eyes dilate

Chinafoot

Right, thats it.

THIS is the original post:

Well the exec and programme officer elections are nearly upon us. Who's going for them + who's going to win?

If you want to discuss the position of women's officer then I suggest someone starts a separate thread.

firespinner wrote:

Why? I know what women want. I could give out the flour, the ovens, the rohypnol and arrange training classes so they can grow up well and find husbands

1: Attitudes like this are why there is still a womens' officer.

2: I don't care if you're joking. Do not push me today.

The_Minister

peachypants wrote:

1: Attitudes like this are why there is still a womens' officer.

It was a joke

peachypants wrote:

2: I don't care if you're joking. Do not push me today

I apologise

Blush_01

panda100 wrote:

Oh vainglory I forgot how witty you were-how Ive missed your light hearted amusing jokes around here!I hear comedy soc are looking for an auditor??Or since Enda has a lot of time free now maybe he can run-his manifesto was a laugh a minute so he's already got his foot in the door .....
Quick run and tell enda,dermot,darren,darragh,chris and all the lefty boys(since theres only like 2 girls involved with ucd left) Im being mean but once again vainglory,YOU started it.Considering your the education officer and Im just a lowly student you should treat us students u represent with a bit more respect instead of calling pythia and the van 'pathetic'.Number one its very unladylike and two,your an elected union representative and thus should behave as one.

Thought this would intrest the boardies though.Anything the union passes at council from here on in is a joke to me.There are many people making descisions for us at council who arent even elected to begin with.I think its a disgarce that these 'class reps' have the sheer hypocrisy to propose a motion apparently on behalf of their class.
I give you an example of Conor Mc Gowan who is the fourth year engineering rep who wasnt even elected by his class but yet still has the cheek to propse motions in there name.He admits himself he wasnt elected and in a direct quote from himself' I'm not that representative of my class, to say the least. ' It will come as no suprise that just one of the motions conor put forward was the union paying of 500 euro for an anti war demonstartors court fee's.I think it highly unfair that conor who is a self acclaimed non elected rep is allowed to put forward a motion on something.Yet when I also wanted to put forward a motion directly I couldnt.It just shows eveidently that the union is not about us students want and needs but is a platform for political hacks.



Council notes that UCDSU has an anti-deportation mandate. Council
notes that as a result of this mandate, UCDSU established an
Anti-Deportation Campaign.
Council notes that at a peaceful ADC blockade at the Garda National
Immigration Bureau against the mass deportation that took place on October 18th, 3rd Arts student Dara McHugh was arrested and is due in court on Thursday, October 27th.
Council notes the duty of UCDSU to defend its members and the role
of UCDSU in campaigning against deportations.
Council mandates the payment of up to 500 euro towards Dara's legal costs and, if convicted, possible fine.
Council mandates UCDSU members to attend court in solidarity with Dara under the UCDSU banner.

Proposed by Conor McGowan, 4th year Engineering (Mechanical).

Seconded by Darren Cogavin, 3rd Social Science.

Elisa, while what you're saying is interesting (and Dara's a big boy, if he can get himself arrested, he can sort himself out, ta very much SU!) it's nothing to do with the topic in hand. If you have such a big problem with issues like this and want them brought to light, then do so in another topic where the point of the one you're post in won't be lost and the point of what you're saying can be preserved. Just for the sake of our sanity.

On the Women's Officer thing - I can't see why a man couldn't run for it. And while I recognise what Pretty*Monster has to say has valid elements, I honestly don't believe that the reason women aren't on council is because they're inferior - it's because less women run. I think some of us are a little more enlightened (both male and female) than some people like to believe. Ok, so Firespinner is stirring things (Stephen, I WILL verbally slap you if you make me mad, so watch it.) by saying women are inferior - but then again, he knows it'll get a rise out of you. Plus he's big into annoying people for the sake of it.

Chinafoot

Blush_01 wrote:

Ok, so Firespinner is stirring things (Stephen, I WILL verbally slap you if you make me mad, so watch it.) by saying women are inferior - but then again, he knows it'll get a rise out of you. Plus he's big into annoying people for the sake of it.

Well I have already banned panda and vainglory today for off-topic nonsense and childish bickering, and I will have absolutely no problem banning firespinner for what is blatant trolling.

Get this thread back on-topic or its getting locked.

tintinr35

*makes sure its ok to come out from under table*


who is even running for these positions???

The_Minister

peachypants wrote:

I will have absolutely no problem banning firespinner for what is blatant trolling.

I wasn't trolling exactly............






btw are any of the positions paid?
Why do we have an Irish language officer

Chinafoot

Firespinner wrote:

I wasn't trolling exactly............

Seriously, learn to know when to quit.

tintinr35 wrote:

who is even running for these positions???

pretty*monster wrote:

Nominations of exec are...
The Finance Officer
Kazakova, Eugeniya
Quinlivan, Stephen

The Irish Language Officer / Oifigeach na Gaeilge
Ó’Bradáin, Darragh
O’Sullivan, Dónal

The Women’s Officer
Phelan, Linda
Rushe, Carol-Anne

The Communications & I.T. Officer
Redmond, Gary

The_Minister

is michele kileen not rerunning for womens?

Blush_01

Sorry Peachy, hadn't seen that post before I posted.

Doesn't look like she is. Although, Carol-Anne was involved on Michelle's Welfare campaign and was canvassing for her at the Arts Ball, of all places. She even tried to convince the charity rep. to vote for Michelle and Vicki-Anne finished college a decade ago. She strikes me as being very driven.

To be honest, I don't think as many people care about the upcoming elections as do about the Sabbat elections. Maybe care is too strong a word, I don't know.

beanyb

I signed the nomination sheet thing for some guy who was trying to run for women's officer in the bar on the last day of term. Mustn't have handed it in.

arbeitsscheuer

beanyb wrote:

I signed the nomination sheet thing for some guy who was trying to run for women's officer in the bar on the last day of term. Mustn't have handed it in.

Or maybe you were just that drunk that the poor girl looked like a bloke in your drink-sozzled eyes...

The_Minister

should i feel bad for not knowing anything about any of the candidates?

pretty*monster

Blush_01 wrote:

To be honest, I don't think as many people care about the upcoming elections as do about the Sabbat elections. Maybe care is too strong a word, I don't know.

Well yeah, Exec positions have a lot less power than sabat positions, the campaign trail is shorter, the deposit is lower, and fewer people turn out to vote. There's generally a lot less riding on them. The exec don't shape the face of the union to the extent that the sabats do. That's the way it always is.
Plus it's closer to exams and students (even 'hacks') are worried about that.

pretty*monster

Firespinner wrote:

should i feel bad for not knowing anything about any of the candidates?

No, none of them have done anything high profile yet. (which isn't a criticism of any of them per se, there's a lot of important work that has to be done in the union that doesn't get your face out there, or your name in the papers, that's not what it should be about anyway).

beanyb

I was actually stone cold sober I'll have you know Seb!

anonymous_joe

SebtheBum wrote:

Women tend not to have a history of discriminating against the Y-chromosome-replete gender.

Honestly, what are you lot like?:rolleyes:

Silly buggers?

Looking forward to seeing the replies to Sangre's offering.

Chinafoot

all posts discussing the relevance of the role of womens officer have been moved to the following thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054905737

Can we please keep this thread for the elections and those running for office.

anonymous_joe

Round of applause for Peachy. Delightfully handled.

The_Minister

peachypants wrote:

all posts discussing the relevance of the role of womens officer have been moved to the following thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054905737

Can we please keep this thread for the elections and those running for office.

A very good move - but you might want to add a quick openig post to explain why the thread makes reference to a different thread - for people who haven't seen the other one.

Chinafoot

Firespinner wrote:

A very good move - but you might want to add a quick openig post to explain why the thread makes reference to a different thread - for people who haven't seen the other one.

When you move the posts it places all of them in order that they were first posted. I.E. my new opening post would have been done an hour or so after the other ones so it will come up last on the thread.

I will edit the fist post when I get the chance, I have been busy with other things.

dajaffa

pretty*monster wrote:

Well, as a law student you're not eligible to vote in the Arts programme office elections anyway.

G'wan the Bond lad!


Nominations of exec are...
The Finance Officer
Kazakova, Eugeniya
Quinlivan, Stephen

The Irish Language Officer / Oifigeach na Gaeilge
Ó’Bradáin, Darragh
O’Sullivan, Dónal

The Women’s Officer
Phelan, Linda
Rushe, Carol-Anne

The Communications & I.T. Officer
Redmond, Gary

Chris Bond and Conor Dixon are going for Arts, while Colm Byrne is going for Health Sci. Anybody know of others?

The_Minister

Look I really, REALLY couldn't care less. Just tell me who is left or right and I will vote accordingly.

anonymous_joe

Just tell me whose running and I'll make sure not to vote.

scop

Firespinner wrote:

Look I really, REALLY couldn't care less. Just tell me who is left or right and I will vote accordingly.

LOL

Blush_01

If that's all that matters to you Stephen, ask each candidate when we get back. Just stop behaving like a petulant toddler.

The_Minister

Blush_01 wrote:

If that's all that matters to you Stephen, ask each candidate when we get back. Just stop behaving like a petulant toddler.

But I WANNNA;)
I have no intention of toddling around a load of different nobodies asking about where they stand, and what did they think of Enda (excuse the capital) Duffy losing. Oh, it was a trajedy? It will be the end of the union! - oh but Dans still a great guy? Whats that? your not left, just politically challanged? but I should still vote for you? Why? Because you will have an active campaigning union. But I don't want an active campaigning union! So is there any reason for me to vote for you? There is?! Oh. You will have an active campaigning union..............



......Ad Nauseum. At election time they all have the same hymn sheet.

Sangre

jesus would people stop each others real names. its just plain rude.

The_Minister

Sangre wrote:

jesus would people stop each others real names. its just plain rude.

I agree, shame on you blush

Pythia

Sangre wrote:

jesus would people stop each others real names. its just plain rude.

What? You did that to me before! My full name as well.

TheVan

Ah but isn't anonymity one of the great things about Boards?

However if you post up your photo you are looking to be "outed"!

I know there's a limited number of people who know who I am and I know that very few people know who Sangre is!!

Pythia

TheVan wrote:

Ah but isn't anonymity one of the great things about Boards?

However if you post up your photo you are looking to be "outed"!

I know there's a limited number of people who know who I am and I know that very few people know who Sangre is!!

I've worked out who he is.

TheVan

Pythia wrote:

I've worked out who he is.

Yeah see I thought that was him I saw with his hood over his face, stepping out of a white and blue van with a load of men in uniform around him but it turns out it was his doppelganger.

However it turns out Sangre does have something for white tracksuits so we may be on the right track!

Sangre

First tintinr35 and then you.
Bunch of stalkers I've got.

singingstranger

About this left and right thing...

TBH there's nothing creative or personal about the PRO jobs as far as I can see. You have to just help out with whatever jobs the Deputy Pres assigns to you, and aside from maybe suggesting to the Reps what should be tackled, you have to work off their initiative in what they want done on a building-by-building basis. The job is largely one based exactly on its description, so being left or right should have nothing to do with it really - politics is about as relevant in how to tie your laces.

An Bradán Feasa

Right so, to answer a previous question regarding political affiliations.

I am <snip>. I am running for Oifigeach na Gaeilge. I am a member of UCD Labour Youth.

I'll post up a manifesto when I put it together, if that is allowed on these boards (can a moderator clarify this for me?). If that's not permitted, sure there'll still be plenty of manifestoes available during the run-up to the elections.

Any other questions about my track record, I'll gladly answer them.

AngelofFire

My name is Chris Bond I am running for Arts Programme officer. I am a member of the Labour party however i am proud to say that i am a firm believer in not letting party affiliation influence any of my activity in the students union and i never have. I hope to count on your support i will be posting a link to my manifesto as soon as possible if the mods allow it. Thank you very much.

anonymous_joe

An Brad&#225 wrote: »

Right so, to answer a previous question regarding political affiliations.

I am <snip>. I am running for Oifigeach na Gaeilge. I am a member of UCD Labour Youth.

I'll post up a manifesto when I put it together, if that is allowed on these boards (can a moderator clarify this for me?). If that's not permitted, sure there'll still be plenty of manifestoes available during the run-up to the elections.

Any other questions about my track record, I'll gladly answer them.

Lefty!!!

(Might I point out I'm joking)

Chinafoot

Sorry guys, no manifesto from any candidate is to be posted up.

Discussion on the issues is encouraged but canvassing is not allowed.

The_Minister

AngelofFire wrote:

am a member of the Labour party however i am proud to say that i am a firm believer in not letting party affiliation influence any of my activity in the students union and i never have. .

I like this.
I normally vote for the right cause generally they just do things down the centre and try to please everyone, and they don't let politics get in the way. You might be the first UCD pinko to get my vote yet:)

zap

Gary Redmond running for Communications & IT officer, no political affiliations.

Chinafoot

Firespinner wrote:

I like this.
I normally vote for the right cause generally they just do things down the centre and try to please everyone, and they don't let politics get in the way. You might be the first UCD pinko to get my vote yet:)

You have been on seriously thin ice on this thread firespinner. You're border-line trolling. We get it, you don't like "lefties".

Anymore comments like those above, including the word "pinko" and you can enjoy a weeks ban.

boneless

Firespinner wrote:

I like this.
I normally vote for the right cause generally they just do things down the centre and try to please everyone, and they don't let politics get in the way. You might be the first UCD pinko to get my vote yet:)

What constitutes a "pinko"? I am getting fed up with all this 1950's USA anti-Red type language being bandied about on this thread and indeed this forum.

Can people not be mature enough to adhere to non-insulting terms when describing, (in a serious debate; I know when a bit of banter is good-natured), others political affiliations?

pretty*monster

boneless wrote:

I am getting fed up with all this 1950's USA anti-Red type language being bandied about on this thread and indeed this forum.

Seconded!

anonymous_joe

It's Firespinner's style... Don't know about the others...

The_Minister

peachypants wrote:

You have been on seriously thin ice on this thread firespinner. You're border-line trolling. We get it, you don't like "lefties".

Anymore comments like those above, including the word "pinko" and you can enjoy a weeks ban.

Sorry, point taken. I've been arguing with this guy on boards who does nothing but low-blows and sanctimonious trolling - Its rubbing off on me. In future I will avoid referring to UCD boards members as pinkos or krustys.