Newsgroups anyone?

daveg

Just wondering if anyone else uses newgroups? I've been a long time subscriber to Easynews but find their cap (20GB) is too low. However their web based search engine (global search) is superb and I would miss this feature if I went elsewhere. Comments or recommendations for alternative providers anyone?

irishguy

www.usenetserver.com is very good and no cap. You need to use newzbin.com with it though. As it doesnt have a search feature

daveg

irishguy wrote:

www.usenetserver.com is very good and no cap. You need to use newzbin.com with it though. As it doesnt have a search feature

$14.95 per month uncapped is excellent. Already using newzbin tbh as I use a newsreader with NZB files (Easynews credit 25% downloads with NNTP back). However, as I mentioned I'd really miss the web global search engine easynews offer. It's perfect for one off MP3's and stuff. Do any other newsgroup providers offer a web based search engine?

daveg

According to usenetserver:

Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:30:34 GMT

We have taken down the nzb search function of the supersearch site in favor of the global search. We will be rolling the hardware from the nzb search into the global search to add redundancy and make room for growth.

-Engineering

Do they offer a global search facility like easynews?

irishguy

i didnt read your post properly, i dont know any other provider that offers that service. Is it really that good? Unlimited download would be alot better IMO

daveg

irishguy wrote:

i didnt read your post properly, i dont know any other provider that offers that service. Is it really that good? Unlimited download would be alot better IMO

An uncapped service supporting NZB which you could use with newzbin would be excellent. The global search engine on Easynews is fantastic though. Retention on newzbin is shíte, even though they claim it's about 50 days. Maybe it is on some groups..

zoro

I'm Digiweb (Metro) and I've been unable to access any newsgroups at all since the service was first connected.
Not entirely sure that it's a fault on their end - but I dont know

Supercell

I use newsleecher and newshosting, the integrated search and add to queue in newsleecher is extremely handy as is the uncapped nature of newshosting.

Used to use UNS but found completion and retention slightly worse than Newshosting , both are pretty similar pricewise for the unlimited packages.

You can find a nzb googlesque search at binsearch.info but it can get very slow sometimes.

zuma

zoro wrote:

I'm Digiweb (Metro) and I've been unable to access any newsgroups at all since the service was first connected.
Not entirely sure that it's a fault on their end - but I dont know

What ports do newsgroups use anyway?

zoro

not sure ... google?

daveg

zuma wrote:

What ports do newsgroups use anyway?

If your asking this from the point of view of being behind a firewall at work Easynews (afair) is the only one offering access through port 80 (same as internet traffic). Easynews also allow you to "pop" all your downloads into a zip queue. You then download the zip file. This is excellent as it looks (and is) like your downloading a zip file as opposed to a Mp3, Avi etc.

daveg

The 6 million dollar question:

I understand If I download via the web or NNTP from
Easynews, there is no log of the transaction kept (from
Easynews) and therefore no traceability.

However what about my ISP? If I download via NNTP or the
web will my ISP have a log of this? Is downloading SSL
connection through the Zip queues system the only 100%,
untraceable way of downloading form newsgroups?

iluvbeer

daveg wrote:

The 6 million dollar question:

I understand If I download via the web or NNTP from
Easynews, there is no log of the transaction kept (from
Easynews) and therefore no traceability.

However what about my ISP? If I download via NNTP or the
web will my ISP have a log of this? Is downloading SSL
connection through the Zip queues system the only 100%,
untraceable way of downloading form newsgroups?

There's a thread running in the Easynews forum at the moment about this very topic.
Is that you?

If not, here's a quote from the thread.

SSL - whether you use it under HTTP or NNTP - gives you
untraceability. All that your ISP will ever know is that
you're downloading from a usenet provider.

Fighting Irish

I use http://www.news.astraweb.com/plans.html they had a special of 90Gb for $25(no time limit) but its back to 65Gb for $25(no time limit)
Still excelent service it always maxes out my connection 3mb

I also use www.newzbin.com

Fighting Irish

zoro wrote:

I'm Digiweb (Metro) and I've been unable to access any newsgroups at all since the service was first connected.
Not entirely sure that it's a fault on their end - but I dont know

try different ports, this happened a mate with Clearwire and i changed the ports for him and it worked like a charm

rsynnott

daveg wrote:

The 6 million dollar question:

I understand If I download via the web or NNTP from
Easynews, there is no log of the transaction kept (from
Easynews) and therefore no traceability.

However what about my ISP? If I download via NNTP or the
web will my ISP have a log of this? Is downloading SSL
connection through the Zip queues system the only 100%,
untraceable way of downloading form newsgroups?

SSL should be somewhat untraceable, except your ISP will know that you're downloading from a specific provider. However, the provider will presumably have some sort of records of what customers download.

rsynnott

daveg wrote:

The 6 million dollar question:

I understand If I download via the web or NNTP from
Easynews, there is no log of the transaction kept (from
Easynews) and therefore no traceability.

However what about my ISP? If I download via NNTP or the
web will my ISP have a log of this? Is downloading SSL
connection through the Zip queues system the only 100%,
untraceable way of downloading form newsgroups?

SSL should be somewhat untraceable, except your ISP will know that you're downloading from a specific provider. However, the provider will presumably have some sort of records of what customers download.

DemonOfTheFall

Easynews claim they nuke all records so that you're untraceable, I wouldn't be worried about it anyway, you'd have to be a serious privact nut to be worried bout your newsgroup browsing being watched.

My setup is NTL newserver on 1st priority in newsleecher for anything which is 2->10 days old, easynews on 2nd priority in newsleecher for everything else.

NTL's server is erratic and doesnt carry all the groups (no a.b.multimedia, no a.b.tv no a.b.hdtv no a.b.dvd) but they get a good feed of anything else I've wanted.

With that setup hard drive space is my only constant problem, speeds are always insane.

If I ever ditch the NTL, newshosting sound like a good option.

daveg

iluvbeer wrote:

There's a thread running in the Easynews forum at the moment about this very topic.
Is that you?

If not, here's a quote from the thread.

Well spotted. Thats me

you'd have to be a serious privact nut to be worried bout your newsgroup browsing being watched.

I'm not downloading anything "suspect" just the usual that other's less in the know would use P2P for. However I am concerned about the "attention" some P2P programs are drawing and torrents for that matter.

From what I understand, and from what easynews support have told me on my other thread, easynews (and most binary providers) retain no logs of downloads. If you use a newsreader to download (NNTP) using SSL (not easy as not many newsreaders support SSL and I can't get the one's that do support it working), or if you download over the web on a secure connection, your ISP can see your connected to Easynews but cannot see what your downloading. It is not illegal to connect to www.secure.members.easynews.com last time I checked

mikeruurds

I have user www.powerusenet.com for the last 4 months and find it to be excellent at $14.95 unlimited per month. Only problem is the 30 day binary retention time which is low.

I've just moved to www.giganews.com... they have a 55 day retention and a reasonably priced unlimited product.

I use Grabit from www.shemes.com for downloading. It's free and has NZB support.

lynchie

I use giganews too ( they now have 62 days retention) with newsleecher which has built in global search.

DemonOfTheFall

Wow, 62 days retention...

Might have to switch to giganews next year and get a few others to share the somewhat steep 25$...

By the way, don't worry about going with a provider who do not do global search. www.binsearch.info is free, good retention and makes nzb files for you. Can be a bit slow sometimes though.

bush

I use newshosting, 15 dollars a month uncapped.

digiman

I use Easynews, I find it excellent, nearly always maxes out my 10Mb connection if I am using a Download accelerator. I find that the 20Gb a month is plenty but I only download about 5/6 tv shows a week and the odd film.
Has anyone noticed that Easynews seems to be getting worse at having all the zip files needed to make the actual file that you are looking for?

DemonOfTheFall

No they've been as good as ever for me.

Learn to use QuickPar. It will be very very very rare that you're missing too many files to not be able to recover it with quickpar.

digiman

DemonOfTheFall wrote:

Learn to use QuickPar. It will be very very very rare that you're missing too many files to not be able to recover it with quickpar.

I do know how to use QuickPar but there has been plenty of times when they were unable to recover the file, I just have to wait until they are resubmitted or look somewhere else for them.

iluvbeer

digiman wrote:

Has anyone noticed that Easynews seems to be getting worse at having all the zip files needed to make the actual file that you are looking for?

Do you mean the AutoUnrar in global searches?
I've noticed a few regular episodes are not making it complete to the HTTP side of things but they are also incomplete in the NNTP server and need some pars to repair. I can only assume its because of bad propogation from the source server and not really the fault of Easynews. Its just more noticeable there, as one missing article means a missing rar on the HTTP server.

Skyuser

Fighting Irish wrote:

I use http://www.news.astraweb.com/plans.html they had a special of 90Gb for $25(no time limit) but its back to 65Gb for $25(no time limit)
Still excelent service it always maxes out my connection 3mb

Ok I just signed up to this crowd. Does anyone wanna tell me how I go about downloading stuff off it now?

MisterAnarchy

I use www.100proofnews.com
$8.95 per month for a 50 Gb cap.
Been using this service for 6 months and no complaints.

Fighting Irish

Skyuser wrote:

Ok I just signed up to this crowd. Does anyone wanna tell me how I go about downloading stuff off it now?

Download "Grabit" google it

Open Grabit, look for "My Grabit" (near top left of screen) right click it and click "Add Server" input the details you got from the site you just uploaded to.

ill type the rest moro im too tired now

Fighting Irish

Skyuser wrote:

Ok I just signed up to this crowd. Does anyone wanna tell me how I go about downloading stuff off it now?

sign up for www.newzbin.com as well, really cheap, browse there selection of stuff, download the .nzb file from them and import the .nzb file into Grabit(open grabit, click "batch" click "article import")