NSR 125; Insurance and legal age questions

da4i's

Hi people;

Just wondering;
Im about to buy a NSR 125... i AM only 15 but i am doing it up as a project

Could someone tell me;
1) What is the legal age for me to be allowed drive this bike?
2) Where is the best place for me to get insurance at that age?

Thanks all for help,
Dave

seamus

1) 17
2) There are only two insurers: Aon and Carole Nash. They'll both rape you sideways for insurance on an NSR at 17.

madrab

afaik its a group 7 bike, so they probably wont even quote you without some no claim bonus

da4i's

is it 16 to drive a moped?? (50cc)

*EDIT* Im going to insure it restricted to save money!! It's Group 2 restricted

Dave

madrab

they only accept factory restrictions & if you have a crash & they check the bike & find its not restricted, you wont be covered

yeah its 16 for a moped

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da4i's wrote:

is it 16 to drive a moped?? (50cc)

*EDIT* Im going to insure it restricted to save money!! It's Group 2 restricted

Dave

The nsr 125 only came out restricted in 2002 or 2003 and you also get a certificate from honda with it, so unless you have it you won't be able to insure it as a restricted bike.

And to be honest mate, they will quote you about 5 grand third party only on a restricted nsr. AON are the only company that will quote you at that age. When i was 20 and had 2 years no claims bonus, my insurace on a group 2 bike (same group the restricted nsr is in) was €3000!!!!! You would be in a different bracket to what i was because of your age, you would be in the 16-18 bracket, i was in the 19-20 bracket

da4i's

What age must i be to drive an NSR 80??? Would it not be considered a moped because of its size????

Thanks again,
Dave

Oryx

You can get an A1 or M licence (up to 125cc) at 16, not 17. A moped is a bike under 50cc, and to qualify as a group 1 it should be automatic (no gears)

murphaph

No, it's a motorbike I'm afraid. A scooter would have to be under 50cc (category M licence).

da4i's

Quote from URL mentioned by KatieK: "Licence:A1
Age: 16
Motorcycles with an engine capacity not exceeding 125 cc and with a power rating not exceeding 11kW with or without sidecar."

Why cant i drive an NSR 125 at the age of 16 then?? :S

Dave

seamus

It is 16, sorry. I was thinking of cars.

sutty

Well a quick google lists a standurd NSR125 as having 12kW output. higher depending on after market extras.

seamus

sutty wrote:

Well a quick google lists a standurd NSR125 as having 12kW output. higher depending on after market extras.

Actually, after having a quick look, there would seem to be indications that mid-90's (perhaps 95 or 96), Honda decided to trim the NSR from a meaty 28bhp (remember that it's a 125 ) to 15bhp - the maximum HP limit for Insurance group 2.

There are other contradictory sources though.

I didn't realise that in 2004 Honda made the CBR125R. Another sports bike, but marginally less powerful.

dawballz

Yeah the CBR125 is a 4 stroke, and basically, from what I've heard/read, crap.
The Ins companies will only accept the restricted version of the NSR if it 2002 or newer. They won;t ask for a certificate though.

da4i's

Man the insurance is sooooooo high

I think that i will be turning to the NSR 80 ; theres something about the NSR's that i just love lol

OK so, wrapping this up; one person says 17 to drive a NSR 125 and then the next says 16..... Which is it??? lol

Dave

seamus

It's 16. I misinformed you

KTRIC

Depending on the power output of the bike -

Basic categories
Category Vehicle type Minimum age of driver
A1 Motorcycles up to 11kW or 125 cc 16 years
A (restricted) Motorcycles up to 25kW (approx. 300 cc) 18 years
A Any size motorcycle (after 2 years on a full licence) 18 years
M Moped with maximum speed of 45 kph and engine size up to 50 cc 16 years


http://www.oasis.gov.ie/transport/motoring/categories_of_motor_vehicles_and_minimum_age_of_drivers_in_ireland.html?search=Motorcycle+licence

da4i's

Thank you for that mate;

What would you say you would be talkin for a NSR 80 at the age of 16? (insurance i mean)

Thanks!,
Dave

murphaph

Only one way to find out. These are the only people wo will quote you without a no claims bonus. It won't be cheap, so prepare yourself.