Birmingham v Liverpool

Guy:Incognito

Big Nelly wrote:

Anyway Liverpool played well against a terrible team so Liverpool fans I wouldnt get too carried away. The majority of teams in PL would have done the same to Birmingham last night. No idea thou why they brought off Crouch who at that stage was miles ahead of Gerrard for MoM. As I have been saying for ages Crouch is class

He's far from class. He's a bit below good for that matter.Why if, in your own words, the majority of teams in the pl would have done the same to Birmingham last night, does that single out Crouch to be any better than , say, james mcfadden at everton?

Big Nelly

Stekelly wrote:

He's far from class. He's a bit below good for that matter.Why if, in your own words, the majority of teams in the pl would have done the same to Birmingham last night, does that single out Crouch to be any better than , say, james mcfadden at everton?

Crouch is a great link up player, not really in the Henry class but for his role is great, better player than Niall Quinn because his touch is better and he can carry the ball and run which Quinn couldnt. In the role he plays he is one of the best link up players in the Premiership. Have watched him for years at all his clubs and always done well.

Birmingham where terrible last night which I mentioned above and most PL team would have over-run them last night in the form they where in. Does McFadden play in the same role as Crouch? NO. So how you can compare them is beyond me. Everton play in a differnet style to what Liverpool play in, Liverpool like to get the ball forward quickly to Crouch and for him to lay it off to the midfield players so they can run behind the defence. Last night in the end they didnt even bother to do that because they just walked thru the Birmingham midfield to shot.

Everton like to play the ball to the centre and hope that Arteta/Cahill can affect the game but noiw with Beattie back from injury they are moving more towards the Liverpool style with Beattie playing the Crouch role.

You should have compared Beattie to Crouch, if I had a choice of both player I would take Crouch because I think he is a better prospect than Beattie

RE*AC*TOR

Big Nelly wrote:

but for his role is great

I agree 100% - he is great in that role.

Now, all we need i someone upfront with him who can score 25 premiership goals a season and we're sorted.

Big Nelly

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

I agree 100% - he is great in that role.

Now, all we need i someone upfront with him who can score 25 premiership goals a season and we're sorted.

news of Cisse going to Spurs again, I was watching him last night and to be honest is a joke for 14million

Shaque attack

Big Nelly wrote:

news of Cisse going to Spurs again, I was watching him last night and to be honest is a joke for 14million

would definitely agree, he has never shown any signs of ever being worth the money we payed for him. at the same time he is a striker and it makes no sense to me to play him out on the right. Play garcia or kewell out right or give kromkamp some time out right. it reminds of what houllier did with diouf when he wasn't living up to his reputation. cisse is a striker, play him as a striker or don't play him at all. my preference would be the latter.

MonkeyTennis

This season is Cisses first proper season and he has scored goals. I think he should be given another chance. If we buy a striker I think Morientes should make way and not Cisse. Theres a lot been talked about jermaine defoe but we already have a nippy fox in the box player in Sinama. Sort out right midfield Rafa..feck it we need two right mids (one as cover) and the goals will come

redspider

Shaque attack wrote:

would definitely agree, Cisse has never shown any signs of ever being worth the money we payed for him. at the same time he is a striker and it makes no sense to me to play him out on the right. Play garcia or kewell out right or give kromkamp some time out right. it reminds of what houllier did with diouf when he wasn't living up to his reputation. cisse is a striker, play him as a striker or don't play him at all. my preference would be the latter.

I agree with you. I would play him every now again given the current forward line.

redspider

mike65

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4832776.stm

Mike.

redspider

mike65 wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4832776.stm

excerpts:

Fan predicts 7-0 win on BBC site

the 7-0 prediction would have netted odds of 100-1 from bookmaker William Hill.
"Oddly enough, although we took a few bets of a fiver or less at 100/1 for the 7-0 result prior to kick-off, the biggest bets we took for the scoreline were placed during game via the internet," said Hill's spokesman Graham Sharpe.

Thats a good one Mike. Coincidences do occur and this is a case in point. Its like that family that won the Lotto twice. They would have had to live for a billion years or something to win it twice by chance but they did it in less than 10 years. Such is the universe and probablility, chaos theory springs to mind.

Also, the way some of the goals were predicted would make you wonder what the guy was "on" or realise that he was just being tongue-in-cheek:

22 mins: Crouch with a 40-yard header
46 mins: Reina scores from goal kick
77 mins: Carragher gets his first goal in three years
90 mins: Cisse out runs every Brum player to finish

That combination would take a billion years to happen, surely!

By the way, that wasnt you with a fiver bet, was it ??? ;-)

As an aside, I had a feeling a week or so ago that Liverpool would win a match with a big scoreline. You know, one of those half hunches. I didnt act on it though.

redspider

fade2black

Got on Liverpool first half second half last night, gotta love an easy money betting opportunity. You'll be amazed at what hitting the back of the net can do for a player's confidence.

7-0 though...who the hell could have predicted that (well apart from the guy Mike mentioned above - but if he had said that on here I would have given him a lashing of humour based abuse...a hypotecthical eating of hat is called for)

Seriously though, I do have a disliking for soccer fans who are so one sided and biased that they must make themselves sick sometimes...but...that was a helluva result and kudos is deserved.