Is anyone else fed up of Dublin?

Schuhart

Dublinwriter wrote:

Which means they are right.

Are you sure? If they are lying and wrong, then maybe they've inadvertently said something right, while wanting to lie, so if we add on them being wrong.

Hold on.

So if they're right and then wrong.

Anyway, I think Dublin is fine.

Do you like Tramore?

Toolach

Toolach wrote:

I was just offered a job in Dublin. I know nobody up there and am worried about costs of living up there.

Should I just stay in Cork?


Rent is cheaper etc.

It depends. Overall living in Cork, or outside of Dublin is better. However, working in Dublin offers you so many opportunities. It IS a great place to find work, and get good experience for later jobs. I guess it depends on your field of work, and whether good paying jobs are easy to find.

And Dublin is worth trying at least once. Some people absolutely love the place when they go there. Nightlife is probably the best in Ireland, and you do have a huge population to play with. Even Cork or Galway at times feel like small towns where you know everyone. Dublin on the other hand always has someone new to meet, and usually you'll come home at the end of the night after meeting twenty-thirty new people.

Good place, but too expensive. But its definetly worth trying.

DamoKen

retalivity wrote:

stay in cork. i spent 4 years in dublin, hated the last 2 and couldnt wait to get out. now couoldn't be happier wokring in the sticks. far cheaper, far better people and far better life

very objective.

Toolach, Klaz put it quite well, nothing really to add to his advice other than working in different palces, particular large cities, and by Irish standards Dublin would be that, can be an educative experience. Even if you find you don't like it, you'll have experienced it. Personally having grown up in Dublin I would view London the same way a lot of people from outside Dublin view here, but I loved working in London, the diversity, the cosmopolitan feel etc, and it's true what they say, travel, even if only from Cork to Dublin, will broaden your perspectives and greatly enhance your experience, not just work wise either. Just another aspect to consider.
By the way I wouldn't consider this thread the best place to post that question, it seems to have gone off on it's own peculiar tangent over the last while

MorningStar

DublinWriter wrote:

Well there's a fine example of rudeness in Dublin!

Made up, eh? Says you.

I'd give you my friend's phone number, but you probably wouldn't believe him either until you were let around to his house to inspect his bank statements.

BTW, I'm still waiting on you to prove how a first-time buying couple can afford a place based on just on partner working.

People who moan about other people moaning are themselves moaners!

Made up story of HARDSHIP casued by how horrible it is in Dublin. THey chose to live as you said.

I explained how they can afford it and you ignored it along with the questions you ignored again. Anythime you are asked a question that you don't like you avoid it.

KLAZ

I at no point have said everybody is wrong. I have said people moaning about things they don't know make Dublin a horrible place to live. I did not say all the time or everybody on this thread. YOu assumed that is what I meant.

To be precise to help you understand; I dislike one aspect of Dublin and that is the moaning from people who know nothing of the issue but maon anyway. I feel if you want to moan you should stop and actually do something instead. Otherwise you are part of the problem.

I jumped on issues I know stuff about and people maoned about incorrectly. Lists from certain people were blaming the city for issues I feel are important to understand and I will defend them.

Why don't you spend time making a point instead of attacking me personally fro expressing my opinion. Before you start saying I have done the same I have repeatedly pointed out where an individual changes their facts and refuses to address issues disproving their claims.

MorningStar

MorningStar wrote:

I at no point have said everybody is wrong. I have said people moaning about things they don't know make Dublin a horrible place to live. I did not say all the time or everybody on this thread. YOu assumed that is what I meant.

So you didn't say: "I think you are missing what I am saying. People are lying and wrong about what they claim is wrong. Dublinwriter put up a story about how hard life was for his young couple friends. As I proved their hardship was choice."

You basically said that anyone that posts something negative about dublin are lying and wrong about what they're lying about. I may have assumed that this signifies your calling us liars, but I do think you could have worded this a hell of alot better to get your true point across.

You see, I posted earlier about my own experience with the housing industry. You came back and said that despite my own experience, I hadn't enough to comment on the industry overall. Then you posted your own experience, and announced that you have a better judgement about the subject than the rest of us. At which stage your war with DublinWriter began.

To be precise to help you understand; I dislike one aspect of Dublin and that is the moaning from people who know nothing of the issue but maon anyway. I feel if you want to moan you should stop and actually do something instead. Otherwise you are part of the problem.

So you don't really dislike one aspect of dublin, rather you just have a problem with people complaining about Dublin. Right. So why are you posting to a thread about people moaning about Dublin?

And I've said aleady you know nothing of the people posting here and as to whether they have/haven't contributed to fixing what they see as problems. But hey, I've made sweeping judgements before. Who am I to judge?

I jumped on issues I know stuff about and people maoned about incorrectly. Lists from certain people were blaming the city for issues I feel are important to understand and I will defend them.

Which is fine. I don't think I've ever told you to shut up. I may have queried why you're posting to a topic you hate, but, nope, I don't think I've asked you not to post.

Why don't you spend time making a point instead of attacking me personally fro expressing my opinion. Before you start saying I have done the same I have repeatedly pointed out where an individual changes their facts and refuses to address issues disproving their claims.

You're funny. :rolleyes: How exactly have I been attacking you? During this thread I've made a number of points, posted my own observations, and responded to other peoples points. but hey, If I've attacked you you're welcome to post them up, and I'll comment on them individually again.

MorningStar

Deleted User wrote:

So you didn't say: "I think you are missing what I am saying. People are lying and wrong about what they claim is wrong. Dublinwriter put up a story about how hard life was for his young couple friends. As I proved their hardship was choice."

Yes I said that and by saying people that does not mean everybody. I clarrified before and now OI am clarifying it again. I do not mean everybody in this thread. Now you know for sure so you can stop accusing me of something I am not saying.

Deleted User wrote:

You see, I posted earlier about my own experience with the housing industry. You came back and said that despite my own experience, I hadn't enough to comment on the industry overall. Then you posted your own experience, and announced that you have a better judgement about the subject than the rest of us. At which stage your war with DublinWriter began.

I commented on non factual aspect you commented on which is where you were saying things that were not true and speculative.

Deleted User wrote:

So you don't really dislike one aspect of dublin, rather you just have a problem with people complaining about Dublin. Right. So why are you posting to a thread about people moaning about Dublin?

Well I see that the people living in Dublin decide what the city is like. I take responsiblity of the city belongs to the people. I have a problem with people not knowing what they are talking about complaining about things. It is a popular acceptable behaviour in Dublin. People accepting healines at face value with out reading the article is a common thing. I corrected your mistake and false claims so your question is void.

Deleted User wrote:

And I've said aleady you know nothing of the people posting here and as to whether they have/haven't contributed to fixing what they see as problems. But hey, I've made sweeping judgements before. Who am I to judge?

People who do things about things they dislike tend to mention them and don't blame others for the problem. People here have blamed the governemnet for things in a way to suggest that nobody can do anything. By people I do not mean all. I hold people responsible for their own actions that is not judgment that is my personal responsibility.

Yes I said that and by saying people that does not mean everybody. I clarrified before and now OI am clarifying it again. I do not mean everybody in this thread. Now you know for sure so you can stop accusing me of something I am not saying.

Fair enough. it was an awkward sentence with multiple meanings.

What is it that I'm accusing you of that you didn't say? You said those words. Just the interpretation is different.

I commented on non factual aspect you commented on which is where you were saying things that were not true and speculative.

thats bull****. You disregarded my own personal experience of an Irish industry and the product/service it provides. It was a generalised topic being covered and you tried to discredit my opinion, simply with saying that one or two houses doesn't make an expert (not that I claimed I was an expert. I was just expressing my own experience).

"12 new houses and 5 older houses. My father worked in the building industry as did I for a few years. I worked outside this country also. I don't expect to know all engine construction when I buy a car yet you seem to think buying two properties makes you the same as an engineer and able to comment on the entire industry? It is this attitude of indignation about expectations that is the the problem not somebody in a shop being polite."
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=51121666&postcount=81

Well I see that the people living in Dublin decide what the city is like. I take responsiblity of the city belongs to the people. I have a problem with people not knowing what they are talking about complaining about things. It is a popular acceptable behaviour in Dublin. People accepting healines at face value with out reading the article is a common thing. I corrected your mistake and false claims so your question is void.

You corrected my mistake in regards to the poll that was posted. Was the link I posted similiar? hmmm.... But I agree I didn't pick out the correct link from this thread.

As for the headlines, when you joined this thread we were talking about changing attitudes and the amount of rudeness in the city. It was you that introduced more practical concerns like economic issues when you started criticising the cities we were comparing Dublin to.

So where are these false claims I've made that you've corrected?

People who do things about things they dislike tend to mention them and don't blame others for the problem. People here have blamed the governemnet for things in a way to suggest that nobody can do anything. By people I do not mean all. I hold people responsible for their own actions that is not judgment that is my personal responsibility.

ok. So you're pissed at "people" refering the problems with this country to the government rather than fixing it themselves? Ok. Fair enough. Thats it? So you don't really have a problem with the people who haven't mentioned the government, and yet still complain?

Perhaps they've spent some time trying to fix these issues but ultimately failed through lack of support. Perhaps. I don't know.

However I'm not going to get bothered with people wither saying Dublin is wonderful or that Dublin is a ****hole. People have opinions, and frankly I quite like hearing them.