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would you change your religion?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,458 ✭✭✭CathyMoran


    I would not have a problem with someone who did not have faith, though it does make things easier at times to be from similar backgrounds (going to mass can be nicer when you have your other half there, also, it is nice to pray together, but if I loved someone I could live without that).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Would I worship the Dollar instead of the Euro?
    Hmm, what exchange rate will you give me?


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Aporia wrote:
    changing your religion is changing what you believe in.

    you can't just wake up one day and decide ''i want to change what i believe in''.

    however you can change it on a piece of paper and if someone i loved that wanted me to do that i probably would to make them happy but still be an atheist.


    of course you can change what you believe in.

    or is it against the law?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    I'm happy enough with my current religion, but people often struggle with personal beliefs, value systems and theology. If you decide after that it's not for you, and another religion is more true for you as a person, then I imagine you weigh it up carefully and make a decision to change - and that's up to themselves at the end of the day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Siogfinsceal


    Im not overly religious. Im catholic but I dont go to church. I have a simple view that if you live a good life then if there is a god whoever he or she is will look after you.
    I wouldnt like to go out with someone who was extremely religious and I definately wouldnt change religion for someone


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Aporia wrote:
    changing your religion is changing what you believe in.

    you can't just wake up one day and decide ''i want to change what i believe in''.

    however you can change it on a piece of paper and if someone i loved that wanted me to do that i probably would to make them happy but still be an atheist.

    But what if you really never believed in the first place? I am not a follower of any religion tbh. As soon as i was old enough my parents let me decide what i wanted to do in regards religion.

    I am a believer of sicence NOT religion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    logik wrote:
    I am a believer of sicence NOT religion.

    You can be a believer in science and religion, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Science deals with the physical, religion deals with the spiritual. We have a logical side and a spiritual side - recent studies show this - so I think it can be detrimental to a persons psyche to neglect their spiritual nature.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Kernel wrote:
    You can be a believer in science and religion, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Science deals with the physical, religion deals with the spiritual. We have a logical side and a spiritual side - recent studies show this - so I think it can be detrimental to a persons psyche to neglect their spiritual nature.

    Yes you have a point there, but i dont think that religion is directly related to being spiritual. I don't like something that thinks for me and in many ways religions thinks for us. It states what is morally wrong and right. Just because i am not a believer of religion does not mean that i am not spiritual.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    logik wrote:
    Yes you have a point there, but i dont think that religion is directly related to being spiritual. I don't like something that thinks for me and in many ways religions thinks for us. It states what is morally wrong and right. Just because i am not a believer of religion does not mean that i am not spiritual.

    That's fair enough, people can be spiritual without organised religion, whatever works best for the person, but there's a danger of a la carte spirituality where people pick and choose what they want, and disregard any teaching that is difficult for them, or contrary to their lifestyle. It's easy to do. However, I'm hypocritical in saying that since I break several rules of my religion. :o I think if I followed all the rules, I would be a better person, and society would be better, but the flesh - as they say - is weak. ;)

    I'm somewhat religious, but I also believe and respect science, and for me, science reinforces my belief in an intelligent design to the universe. The strict moral guidelines were useful in getting us to a civilised ethical state, in the early years... took us a long time though, and there's still a lot of civilising we could do. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Binomate


    Kernel wrote:
    You can be a believer in science and religion, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Science deals with the physical, religion deals with the spiritual. We have a logical side and a spiritual side - recent studies show this - so I think it can be detrimental to a persons psyche to neglect their spiritual nature.
    Can I possibly have a link to that study please? I thought it was the exact opposite? I though scientists had uncovered that the soul or the spirit doesn't exist.

    As far as I am concerned, religion is darkness and science is light. Darkness doesn't exist. It is only a word we use for an abundance of light. The same way the idea of God only exists where science hasn't gone yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    I don't think I ever would have gone out with someone who was so deeply religious that it may have caused an akward situation in the first place.. I'm just not mad on the deeply religious type, as I am in no real way religious myself.

    So the situation probably will never raise its head :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    Binomate wrote:
    Can I possibly have a link to that study please? I thought it was the exact opposite? I though scientists had uncovered that the soul or the spirit doesn't exist.

    It's nothing to do with a soul or a spirit, just that we have a spiritual tendency hardwired into our make up. Look at even primitive, isolated tribes and you usually see that they all have spiritual beliefs.

    Check out these articles:

    http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2005/0607godgene.shtml
    http://www.maps.org/media/vedantam.html
    http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f01/web3/ekanayake.html
    Binomate wrote:
    As far as I am concerned, religion is darkness and science is light. Darkness doesn't exist. It is only a word we use for an abundance of light. The same way the idea of God only exists where science hasn't gone yet.

    My interpretation is that the more science unravels the amazing mysteries of the universe, from quantum physics to DNA and evolution, the more it shows how intricate and perfectly designed the whole thing is. For me, God exists in the whole design, and science simply helps us understand the design and how marvellous and elaborate it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Same as some others above, I'm an athiest, and I wouldn't adopt a religion for them, it would be completely false as I wouldn't actually believe in it.

    I wouldn't really date a religious person anyway, the type of people I date are people I have things in common with, it's very rare that I come across someone that has the same interests as me but is religious.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,272 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Im about as religious as a rock so no I would not take up a religion for someone else because I think all religions are ridiculous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Bob the Seducer


    Would I change my religion? Yes, if I wanted to.
    Would I change my religion for somebody else? No, I don't think that's something that anyone should ask you to do.
    Would I marry someone very religious? No, again. I'm not too gone on the whole indoctrination of my children, I don't mind a person following their particular faith but I also don't think you should decide what anyone elses religion is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭JaneHudson


    I agree that religions are ridiculous. I couldn't go out with a religious person. I'd need someone who can make their own decisions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭Sifo


    i don't have one to change. i was born a christian, but in reality it is only a word.. where was christianity before Jesus and where was islam before mohammad? if your going to pick up a new one i recommend hinduism as its been around the longest and doesnt rely on prophecies!!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    I'm agnostic, I could never be with someone who was really into any kind of religion, so the answer is no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    tbh i think the chances of anyone in 21st century Ireland finding themselves marrying a deeply religious young woman are slim to none. I only know one religious person of my age, and shes a feckin oddball.

    At the same time i dont go for all this hating religion because its trendy thing. Born/baptised catholic like most of us. My parents were never big into mass so it was never an issue. Would still get my kids baptised though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Merrick


    JaneHudson wrote:
    I agree that religions are ridiculous. I couldn't go out with a religious person. I'd need someone who can make their own decisions.

    I second that. I probably couldn't even stand going out with an overly religious guy, never mind marrying one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Yeah I probably wouldn't get along with a really religious person anyway... But regardless, I can't *make* myself believe in something, and I wouldn't go through all the pointless rituals etc for the rest of my life.

    So, no!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 377 ✭✭Aporia


    of course you can change what you believe in.

    or is it against the law?


    i'm saying what ever you believe in, you believe in.

    you don't just decide to ''believe'' in something one day to make someone happy

    of course you can change your mind but the idea of ''changing your religion for someone'' is stupid it may say on a piece of paper that you are a catholic [lets just say that's what your loved one wanted you to change to] but you actually are a atheist.

    do you understand what i'm trying to say now lol :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 377 ✭✭Aporia


    logik wrote:
    But what if you really never believed in the first place? I am not a follower of any religion tbh. As soon as i was old enough my parents let me decide what i wanted to do in regards religion.

    I am a believer of sicence NOT religion.

    it wouldn't really bother me what's written down about me just as long as it would make them happy i guess - i can't see myself falling in love with the type of person that would want me to do that in the first place but if i did i can't see what's wrong with it wouldn't exactly cause me harm :p

    my parents let me decide too which was great. some people can be brainwashed from a young age i guess it's best just to be left make up your own mind..

    i wish i did believe in a god i suppose it would give me more hope... maybe i should have been brainwashed from a young age :D organised religions are essentially cults that's including catholicism :eek:


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Yes... I would change it to Atheist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭pbsuxok1znja4r


    of course you can change what you believe in.

    or is it against the law?
    You can't change what you believe in just because you want to, is what that poster was saying. God knows, I wish I could change what I believe the laws of mathematics are everytime I get a problem wrong, but I know that would be incorrect.

    So, to put it more simply, yes, I could indeed change my religion for some reason i.e. marriage (though I'm sure I wouldn't), but not for a second could I (or anyone) change what they actually believe to be the truth, just because they want to. New facts/information would need to be put before them and be considered before one could do that.

    A lot of people saying "Oh I could never go out with / love a religious person in the first place". Well that's a stupid thing to say, as the chances are you wouldn't know the difference between a religious/non-religious, until you asked them about it or found out they were going to church. I've had very, very close, old friends who were utterly suprised to learn my true leanings in that regard.

    Anyway, no I wouldn't adopt some new religion for a potential spouse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    I wouldnt marry anyone deeply religious in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭Laplandman


    originally posted by scouser.tommy:
    You can't change what you believe in just because you want to
    I can. Like the other day, I was like: "Hmm. That God lark seems a bit out-there, I will believe in it," and so I believed in it.
    Then I said, "No actually, that's silly." And I didn't believe in it anymore.

    I might (if very confused) consider becoming religious, but I'd never adopt a religion.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    simu wrote:
    No, I wouldn't marry a person with strong religious beliefs tbh. Don't trust them.

    Me too. Very religious people freak me out, tbh. All this believing in some kind of higher power that watched us all the time and controls what we do... Sounds more like Big Brother to me.

    That said, I'm happy to believe that there's a God, or something, because there's no harm in it. But I wouldn't let that belief control my life and I wouldn't be able to marry someone who did.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,245 ✭✭✭drdre


    Nah never ever will i change my religion. im a happy muslim:D


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