Want to buy a registered (but not in use .com)

NeptunesMoon

Hows it goin,
theres a .com i want to buy thats up for renewal in a few days, its $18 from godaddy.com to buck the .com and if the owner doesnt renew it i get it i think, for $18. does anyoe know about this at all? it also says something about my $18 will be used as a first bid on it. i really want this address, its been registered since 2004 i think and hasnt got anything on it, how do i find out if its up for sale anyway?

cheers

axer

Are you saying the domain expires in a few days or is just up for renewal? If it is expiring in a few days you should be able to renew it however if it is just up for renewal in a few days then it could be registrar-locked for another 45 days before you can buy it (if it is not renewed in that time). You will need to look at who it was registered with and check their policy on this.

NeptunesMoon

hi again,
this is the info I got from godaddy.com on the whois queery:

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.


Domain Name: ************.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.tucows.com
Name Server: NS1.IPOWERDNS.COM
Name Server: NS1.IPOWERWEB.NET
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
EPP Status: clientDeleteProhibited
EPP Status: clientUpdateProhibited
EPP Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 31-Mar-2005
Creation Date: 02-Apr-2004
Expiration Date: 02-Apr-2006

>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:01:59 EST <<<

NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.

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I looked it up on tucows and this is the info I got:

Registrant:
--
******ADDRESS BLANKED******


Domain name: ********.COM

Administrative Contact:
****NAME ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER GIVEN BUT REMOVED HERE*******

Technical Contact:
****NAME ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER GIVEN BUT REMOVED HERE*******


Registration Service Provider:
****NAME ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER GIVEN BUT REMOVED HERE*******

Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 31-Mar-2005.
Record expires on 02-Apr-2006.
Record created on 02-Apr-2004.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.IPOWERWEB.NET 64.70.61.130
NS1.IPOWERDNS.COM 66.235.217.202


Domain status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

The Data in the Tucows Registrar WHOIS database is provided to you by Tucows
for information purposes only, and may be used to assist you in obtaining
information about or related to a domain name's registration record.

Tucows makes this information available "as is," and does not guarantee its
accuracy.

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lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to:
a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail,
telephone, or facsimile of mass, unsolicited, commercial advertising or
solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing
customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that
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ICANN-Accredited registrar, except as reasonably necessary to register
domain names or modify existing registrations.

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expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Tucows.

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Tucows reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.

By submitting this query, you agree to abide by these terms.

NOTE: THE WHOIS DATABASE IS A CONTACT DATABASE ONLY. LACK OF A DOMAIN
RECORD DOES NOT SIGNIFY DOMAIN AVAILABILITY.

so judging by the above it says that it expires on the 2nd of April 2006, so is it as simple as registering for the back order and hoping they dont renew it? What happens if they do renew it? Can I contact the above info (which I have blanked out) and ask them if I can buy it off them? Is there any way to tell if they have it up for sale elsewhere because if they do I'd like to put in a bid for it and I'm prepared to pay quite a lot for it.


Cheers

m_stan

not sure about the rest of it, but if you contact them and offer to buy it they will 1) renew it and spoil whatever chance you had of getting it for $18 and 2) more than likely say "yes, no problem sir - we will happily sell it to you for ONE BILLION DOLLARS"

so I would advise against that approach.

cianuro

I suggest you give this a read:

http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/03/how-to-snatch-an-expiring-domain

NeptunesMoon

had a read of that but it turns out that the domain was renewed anyway. its still not in use, how do i go about trying to buy it off the owner? there are contact details in the whois, but is this the best way?

cheers

mneylon

NeptunesMoon wrote:

had a read of that but it turns out that the domain was renewed anyway. its still not in use, how do i go about trying to buy it off the owner? there are contact details in the whois, but is this the best way?

cheers

How do you know it's not in use?

A lot of people seem to think that just because there is no website on the primary hostname the domain is inactive

In any case you can have a go at contacting them through Afternic

NeptunesMoon

cheers, didnt find it there though:( is contacting them through the whois the only option? I know people can use sites without there being an actual page there but theres a good chance there is no page there so id like to try to get it

if they do want to sell it, what happens? do i have to wait till it expires again or is selling easy and just a case of them giving me the username and password or how does it work?

cheers

mneylon

If you can persuade them to part with the domain it's usually a simple enough matter of them pushing the domain to your account with their registrar