Bebo Prevails

Riamfada

Anyone read the Tribune today? Bebo wont be banned . Simple as. Read em and weap

eth0_

Care to bother your hole to quote some of the article?
The Tribune probably has about 100 readers in Ireland, after all.

Mimikyu

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Riamfada

Well M'Lord i dont have a copy of it right now, so I dare not bother my hole going to college to get it. How about you get it yourself if your so interested in the details of whether or not it'll be allowed. Simply , nothing will change.

tintinr35

eth0_ wrote:

Care to bother your hole to quote some of the article?
The Tribune probably has about 100 readers in Ireland, after all.

go get a copy urslef if ur so interested!

Chinafoot

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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Myspace didn't really have quite the same impact in UCD that bebo has had.

They want it banned because quite frankly its hard enough to get a computer in UCD at the best of times. Its even worse when you are standing in a queue for up to 30 minutes needing to do some college work and looking at the amount of people surfing bebo.

If people want to look at bebo in college then they should do it on their own laptops and not tie up the few resources that the college does have.

Its coming very close to exam time now and people have end of term assignments to hand up. A lot of people in UCD don't have access to computers off-campus so its very unfair on them, particularly at such a crucial time in the year.

Chinafoot

tintinr35 wrote:

go get a copy urslef if ur so interested!

Watch it.

It was a valid enough request. If you're going to go to the bother of posting a thread about an article that was in the paper you could at least expand on what was said.

Art_Wolf

Then they should make it a rule in the college that their pcs are for course related work only. Ban bebo and something else will simply take its place.

Mimikyu

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tintinr35

they have it banned in a load of colleges but it doesnt make a difference because you can just go onto this site that reroutes you to it. so it really doest make a diff if they ban it or not!

Mimikyu

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eth0_

Bebo is for absolute RETARDS. I really do not see the attraction!
Are these people so unable to score in real life that they have to cybersex with someone and then meet them by the lake?

Grow up FFS.

You're here to study, if you're going to spend your time on Bebo perhaps you should drop out because from what i've seen of Bebo people, they barely have the intelligence to string a few words together, nevermind complete a degree.

And of course the university can block Bebo. They can block porn sites if they want to. If people are tying up university resources looking at this stupid site, they are well within their rights blocking it.

Chinafoot

tintinr35 wrote:

they have it banned in a load of colleges but it doesnt make a difference because you can just go onto this site that reroutes you to it. so it really doest make a diff if they ban it or not!

Well tbh if the site was banned and people are in the queue waiting to do college work, see some muppet surfing a site that they know is banned it may just give them the confidence to tell said muppet in no uncertain terms to get the hell off the computer and stop wasting everyones time.

Or if they're not brave enough for that, they can legitimately complain to services.

eth0_

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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It's blocked in the library building so trust me, Computer Services can block it site-wide if they were bothered.

All the people thinking UCD can't ban it, it's a private LAN and the admins can block access to whatever they want. HEANET provide the internet access here and there is NOTHING in their TOS preventing each university blocking access to sites.

beanyb

Bebo is for absolute RETARDS. I really do not see the attraction!
Are these people so unable to score in real life that they have to cybersex with someone and then meet them by the lake?

Yeah everyone that uses bebo is a retard... :rolleyes:
In fact I'd see boards as more fitting to your cybersex idea, since on bebo people talk to friends that they already know, but here we talk to complete strangers and organise meeting up!

Quotes from the article:

" Communications Officer for UCD Computer Services Niamh Milne revealed that there are no plans to ban Bebo from the UCD computer network at the moment.
'It is not part of the college policy to restrict access to websites. If it's Bebo one day, it would be another website the next.' Milne explained."

Beruthiel

Grimes wrote:

Well M'Lord i dont have a copy of it right now, so I dare not bother my hole going to college to get it. How about you get it yourself if your so interested in the details of whether or not it'll be allowed. Simply , nothing will change.

if you are going to start a thread, then I believe the least you can do is post the subject matter as a normal course of action. :rolleyes:

Chinafoot

How about everyone (and I mean everyone) discusses the issue with a bit of cop on?

Get it back on topic folks.

ferdi

Beruthiel wrote:

if you are going to start a thread, then I believe the least you can do is post the subject matter as a normal course of action. :rolleyes:

i dont think theres any rules saying you have to provide full documentry evidence of every post you make, if he is interested he can pick up a copy of this free paper himself. the OP said bebo wasnt banned....if anyone wants further details its up to them to find out surely?

Blowfish

tintinr35 wrote:

they have it banned in a load of colleges but it doesnt make a difference because you can just go onto this site that reroutes you to it. so it really doest make a diff if they ban it or not!

you got it bang on, though banning it will stop some people, who don't realise that they can do this, and sooner or later someone is going to tell them how to do it.

Chinafoot

ferdi wrote:

i dont think theres any rules saying you have to provide full documentry evidence of every post you make, if he is interested he can pick up a copy of this free paper himself. the OP said bebo wasnt banned....if anyone wants further details its up to them to find out surely?

You start a thread in order to start a discussion. If you post something vague about an article in the paper then those who haven't seen the article won't be able to participate in the discussion.

Quoting at least some of the article is just common decency tbh.

But that is beside the point, can we get back on-topic please.

ferdi

peachypants wrote:

You start a thread in order to start a discussion. If you post something vague about an article in the paper then those who haven't seen the article won't be able to participate in the discussion.

Quoting at least some of the article is just common decency tbh.

But that is beside the point, can we get back on-topic please.

really? several posters, including yourself, seem to have managed just fine.

common decency? thats a bit OTT, no?

eth0_

beanyb wrote:

" Communications Officer for UCD Computer Services Niamh Milne revealed that there are no plans to ban Bebo from the UCD computer network at the moment.
'It is not part of the college policy to restrict access to websites. If it's Bebo one day, it would be another website the next.' Milne explained."

That's strange because the presidents office is calling for Bebo to be blocked on the UCD network.

Chinafoot

ferdi wrote:

really? several posters, including yourself, seem to have managed just fine.

common decency? thats a bit OTT, no?

What did I say ferdi? I said back on-topic. The discussion is about bebo not being banned as reported in the Tribune. The part that you highlighted there was a statement about threads in general. And yes it is common decency.

Also, I don't recall saying that I hadn't read the article. I simply agreed with Eth0 about quoting some of the article.

Now, back on topic, thank you very much.

ferdi

yes mistress, i love it when you get angry;)

Dave!

Would banning Bebo not set a 'dangerous' (for want of a better word) precident, and kinda make it easier to start banning other non-academic sites, eg. yahoo mail, gmail, myspace, boards..., and lead to the computers being used solely for academic purposes? Maybe not soon, but in the future.

Some might say that we come to college to learn so that's a good thing, but it's not a boarding school or a prison camp, so that would be ridiculous.

Personally as I think I've said before, I don't care about Bebo, cos I have a laptop now But I can understand yer frustration

Red Alert

yes it does. it then becomes a case of writing a site-banning policy. for example does going to microsoft.com mean personal use - probably does. but what about someone writing a Windows Server application for a project? what about religious sites? shopping - should someone be on tesco.com if they live on campus?

i disagree with site-banning in any shape or form as any site ban is subjective.

the library is a different kettle of fish. they are special computers for accessing learning resources - you're not supposed to even be using MS Word on them! as such they have a right to block it - does anyone know if they got computer services to do it on the proxy or did they use the Site Kiosk to block it?

mloc

eth0_ wrote:

Bebo is for absolute RETARDS. I really do not see the attraction!
Are these people so unable to score in real life that they have to cybersex with someone and then meet them by the lake?

I can't quite agree with you there, Bebo is 99% used by people to connect with people they already know, and is mostly used for hosting photos, sending messages and general group communications. It seems to have benefitted from not developing an "uncool" image, as many online communication methods have (in Ireland) and entered mainstream use. Of the 150 or so "friends" i have on my bebo account, not one have I never met in real life before.

You're here to study, if you're going to spend your time on Bebo perhaps you should drop out because from what i've seen of Bebo people, they barely have the intelligence to string a few words together, nevermind complete a degree.

Bebo people? I don't think I've met any Bebo "people". If you're talking about Bebo users in UCD, theres 5360 users already registered as part of the UCD group, which in terms of undergraduate population is a significant proportion. I would imagine, from 1st to 3rd year, they are in the majority.

And of course the university can block Bebo. They can block porn sites if they want to. If people are tying up university resources looking at this stupid site, they are well within their rights blocking it.

While I agree that blocking bebo in the library building during exam periods might be reasonable, lets be realistic: what proportion of computer use is actually for course work? I'd love to know what proportion of bandwidth is actually course work and not students checking email, downloading irrelevant crap, playing flash games etc.

Vorsprung

Red Alert wrote:

yes it does. it then becomes a case of writing a site-banning policy. for example does going to microsoft.com mean personal use - probably does. but what about someone writing a Windows Server application for a project? what about religious sites? shopping - should someone be on tesco.com if they live on campus?

i disagree with site-banning in any shape or form as any site ban is subjective.

Come on Peadar. Social networking!? It can hardly be classed in the same group of sites, no matter how loose you make you define things

Red Alert

try http://proxy.ucd.ie/ and navigate around - i think it still works but i'm at home so i don't know. you'll probably see bebo in the top ten.

i actually think bebo is quite good - it is very well designed compared to myspace and is easy to use for computer luddites too.

humbert

I got a 403, something to do with my being on a laptop?

rain on

humbert wrote:

I got a 403, something to do with my being on a laptop?

i got one too and i'm on a college computer..