Airsoft Ireland

IronWolf

If you know what your FPS is with a .12, tell me it and i'll calculate what it would be with .2/ other weights

Quillo

IronWolf wrote:

If you know what your FPS is with a .12, tell me it and i'll calculate what it would be with .2/ other weights

Average 130fps.

Quillo

Just been looking at this:

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=/articles/fps_limits/fps_calc.htm

And I see I'm WELL within the 1 joule limit.....:)

Dug out my old CB-625 chrono (from my airgunning days) and double checed the fps. Yep. Average 130fps with a spread of about 10fps.

Gun is a Umarex/Walther P99 AEG

B00MSTICK

May as well ask what guns/gear ppl have ( in storage where such things are legal of course) or what they are thinking of getting.

Ive been looking at the CA G36E/K and the CA33E in paticular. I've made an order on ehobbyasia for accesories incl. a G&P RDS and I've already got a 3300mAh 9.6v batt. Won't bother with clothing until Airsoft gets set up properly here.

whupass

i want a p-90 and a walther p99

IronWolf

I currently have:

TM Steyr Aug (SR)
TM FN P90 (RDS)
KSC TMP Hardkick
KSC Sig Pro 2009
M9 tactical master
USP

Irishpimpdude

If i order a airgun online is it totally legal and will get to me ?

B00MSTICK

Airsoft guns are currently not legal in the Republic. Getting one online may be seen as importation of arms. You may be lucky and it might get through customs but its not a risk I'm willing to take anyway.

The new CJB will class all airsoft guns with a muzzle velocity of under 1 joule as a toy, and therefore legal. The bill should be in within a few weeks/months.

-Strawbs-

Well what you were saying about not being for sale to people under 18. In the Uk and most other countries in Europe they are sold to anyone over 14. So why make it higher here? :mad:

Strawbs

Irishpimpdude

I thought the bill was enforced as of the 7th i must have got something wrong...

-Strawbs-

Irishpimpdude wrote:

I thought the bill was enforced as of the 7th i must have got something wrong...

Ya, me too. It was meant to be enforced on the 7th. What ever happened to it?

IronWolf

Its still going ahead, its just that some parts of the bill will take time to go into affect due to the size and complexity of the bill apparently . On the bright side, it gives everyone more time to save up.

Irishpimpdude

Oh ok i get it now, Thanks! but i want my gun now!!!ha ha ha... im a very impatient person...

-Strawbs-

At the moment you can get them here by the ferry, if you were on holiday to the Uk or France or something. But sure they should be legal here soon so theres no point.

Skatedude

i take it Vlmaxis was just messing about when he said a shop in dublin stocks airsoft or has there been any news

B00MSTICK

I'd say any place found stocking replica firearms like that would be stopped fairly quickly, until the new bill is in anyway

whupass

he said that you had to order them and get the permission first

Skatedude

but did any1 find out where the shop is, i already talked to my local guards and they said it would be fine as soon as the details were sorted with the new law,
The local guards all know me and my family because we own a hotel in the area and they come in on their days off

whupass

the cjb has been signed into law but now we just have to wait for it to come into efect.

Skatedude, was it you who bought the gun on ebay? if so did it get through?

Skatedude

nope it didnt, but i dont think it was customs, i emailed the shop and got a replay, but its all in german and i cant read it, as far as i can tell hes looking for some additional payment as he has included his iban number and bank details, i'm just waiting for a m8 to translate it and get back to me

Quillo

Just cut an paste the email, sentence by sentence, into Google language tools. Have often used it for French, German and Italian eBay transaction translations. Its easy to use and very good.

http://www.google.ie/language_tools?hl=en

Skatedude

i babelfished it and it was saying that hes waiting for payment, odd as i paid by paypal the same time day i won the auction, my paypal account says it was paid but unclaimed so i sent a copy of the paypal transaction(less personal info) to prove it was already paid for, hopefully i'll hear back soon

dcx122

hey guys i new to this forum but im interested in airsoft. i was just wondering does anyone have an update on this new law or can they link me something that explains it and when it comes into affect

-Strawbs-

It has to come into effect? Dosnt that usually take ages? .....And we were so close

no leaf clover

lol, lots of info here, just saw the thread for first time, i love guns and tactics, and all that, had those laser challenge things as a kid and would have four way battles in the forests, so naturally, i cant w8 for this to come thru,

joaibh, dont forget, we in the techno century!!lol, just hook up a webcam on either side of a locker room, once a week if people wana check it, for a small fee, some1 in the armoury will check on live webcam, etc etc, no 50€ train tikets! theres lots o ways around, ya've my full support on this tis a great idea, pm me if you've any probs,

nlc

whupass

if you look at the shooting forum it has a full sticky on the new cjb

Miscreant

Just spotted in the Shooting forum that the bill was signed into law on 16-07-2006 by the President. No one on the forum seems to know about power limits or muzzle velocity yet though. It is on page 35 of the Criminal Justive thread.

Hauk

It was signed into law, but not enacted yet. I'm expecting an e-mail back from Customs and Excise as to wether we are allowed import airsoft guns. Until then, I'm not gonna attempt anything.

Hauk

-Strawbs-

Let us know when they reply, Cheers

Quillo

Given that this thread has had 2873 viewings and 129 postings alone, I think that should be proof enough that Airsoft should have its own forum....

This thread has generated more traffic than the whole Frisbee forum already.

whupass

TODAY THE ACT WAS BUT INTO EFECT!!

now airsoft is legal and has enough onterrest so should have a forum!!

-Strawbs-

Best news ive heard all month!

By the way, where did you find that out?

Rovi

Unless whupass has new information that I don't know about, in which case, fair play to him, and I'd love to see it, the (firearms) legislation brought into effect on 1 August was to do with the firearms amnesty, increases in fines and penalties, and the provisions to allow the Minister to 'deem certain firearms as restricted'.
The rest of it (including the bit about 'things' with a muzzle energy of under 1 Joule not being 'firearms') has yet to be commenced, as far as I know.

Here's an excellent (amateur ie- NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT!) restatement of the legislation with all the new stuff included-
http://www.wilkinstowntargetshootingclub.org/Documents/FirearmsActAmended/FirearmsAct.html

...and here's the announcement of the commencement order on 1 August-
http://www.justice.ie/80256E01003A02CF/vWeb/pcJUSQ6S9M99-en
Note that 'further parts of Part 5 will commence on 1 November', so I'd expect that the rest of it will come into force then.

whupass

parts 1-8 came in yesterday and part 1 is the part which defines a firearm and the bit with the muzzle energy, which legalises airsoft guns. or what have i got wrong?

-Strawbs-

Not to take sides here but i think whupass could be right. Check out Rovi's 2nd link
http://www.justice.ie/80256E01003A02CF/vWeb/pcJUSQ6S9M99-en
The top section seems to show what has already come into effect but the bottom half shows what is to come into effect in the future, and the firearms and fireworks are in the top section. Make any sense?

whupass

see i never saw anything saying airsoft was legal, just that guns aren't guns if the muzzle energy is under 1 joule, it's not said they are toys or need orange tips or anything

-Strawbs-

Id say its in......Think its safe to start ordering?

whupass

wait, make a list of your arsenal and then buy it all together, why not buy the doj? actually i think i will now.

-Strawbs-

Ya, but it could look kind of bad ordering a load of guns together seeing as it is a new law and stuff. Sort of IRA-ish?
Btw, whats the Doj?

whupass

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


i rang the DoJ department of justice, and asked they said that the restricted arms part will take a FEW months(5-6) BUT that the definition of 1 joule is IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so tomorrow we could legaly buy airsoft guns!!

he said to be careful when getting them but they are legal!!

-Strawbs-

Nice One!

whupass

so, what arsenal you going to buy?


mine just HAS to have a P-90 in it

-Strawbs-

Not sure really, maybe a WW2 thompson or a sniper, gotta get a good pistol aswell

whupass

yea speedytoys have some good pistols, all metal full/semi auto betteta

-Strawbs-

Ya check out Wolf Armouries aswell, massive range. They even have a gun for over 5000!

whupass

THAT'S THE ONE!!!! that was the first site i ever found but forgot it.

what's the address?

-Strawbs-

http://www.wolfarmouries.co.uk
Happy Shopping

Rovi

Fair play to you whupass, if the DOJ have given you the go-ahead, that's great.

I thing some confusion arose because the 'Parts 1-8' mentioned in the commencement link (http://www.justice.ie/80256E01003A02CF/vWeb/pcJUSQ6S9M99-en) refer to parts of the Criminal Justice Act 2006, Part 5 of which deals with amendments to the Firearms Acts.
The only sections of part 5 referred to there deal with the stuff I mentioned in a previous post, and the bit at the end states that 'further parts of Part 5 will commence on 1 November'.

The Section 1 mentioned here that deals with Definitions and covers the 'under 1 joule' thing, is a part of the Firearms Acts, and is NOT mentioned in the above commencement order.

Anyhow, it appears that the DOJ are content, so happy shopping

The Bollox

I'm gonna get me a SPAS 12. it is a classy shotgun and doesn't cost an arm and a leg

linky

whupass

you see why marts?

AIRSOFT IS LEGAL!!!!!!!!1oneoneeleven11!!!