Vael Grrrrrrrr

[CrimsonGhost]

Okay, looking for some help here. My guild can farm MC. And have been for some time. But we've run into a complete block in BWL. We simply cannot get past Vael. We've been stuck on him far longer than any boss of MC. We've been pulling out our hair. We've been through numerous strategies on various sites out there. All along the lines of very careful tank agro management. He just won't go down.

Does anyone have any gems of wisdom they could share to beating this guy. Is there anyway to get rid of his curse that any of you know of?

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Dubhthamlacht

you said it yourself, it's all about tank aggro management.

my guild always found the 3rd tank transition to be the toughest. there was always the risk 4th tank would pull aggro.

whats yer best attempt on Vael? where exactly in the fight does it fall apart?

Jim

If your talking about the BA curse, theres no way to get rid of it no. My guild can kill Vael but have difficulties with him lately. The biggest difficultly atm is his cleave swipe seems to be bugged as he does it whenever he turns to give someone BA (this might be normal but it never happened before until about 2 weeks ago) thus pwning all the rogues.

Theres basically two main things on the fight. Get tank order / change right and keep the rogues alive. We had 9 rogues on him one night and he went down very quick. Rogues need to go for some FR without gimping themselves too much. Something we did was get the FR buff from UBRS when we were trying him first (go into UBRS at the start, get your preists to MC the caster orcs and buff everyone with their buff which is 60 FR).

There is a certain amount of luck involved in the fight however. If he gives BA to healers first you're kinda ****ed.

joe.

It's all about good tank transitions. The guild I'm in made everybody download http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=3488. It helped a lot to see which warrior was going to tank next.

Even the best guilds still sometimes wipe on Vael due to unlucky BA. He's the hardest boss until Nef and once you get him down, you should fly through the others. Goodluck

Funky

What exactly is the problem? Is it tanks dieing? Lack of healing? Lack of dps? DPS pulling aggro? Healers pulling aggro?

It's hard to diagnose a problem with your strat without info on why you wipe.

Horsefumbler

if your lucking for a tip heres one - bring lots of rogues

Dr_MaSoN

In lehmans terms wat we do is set up a tank list 1-5,everyone sticks Full FR on.
make sure to stand in the correct spot so no chain cleaves ect,if anyone gets BA make sure they run from the raid and nuke until they die.


and bring lots of rogues,make sure to vanish when the first tank gets "Burning",swap in next tank and switch healing to him.

[CrimsonGhost]

Aye, it's the agro management. I'll certainly have a look at that mod. It would be nice if it were built directly into CTRA. Looks quite useful though. Thanks for the input. I'll let you know how we get on.

Jim

Tell your tanks to l2p.

[CrimsonGhost]

Tbh, it's more our mages over nuking. Some of them just seem to get crazy amounts of crits in a row sometimes.

Maximilian

Two suggestions:

1. Make sure you get the FR buff from BRS. +80 FR makes a difference.

2. Get everyone to get the Threatmeter add-on. Its not perfect but is nevertheless very helpful for controling aggro and for tank transitions.

DRakE

Priests Druids and Paladins can afford to gimp their mana to bits because of the infinite mana buff that the Essence of the Red gives..

We have all the priests fade around 9 seconds into the fight so they don't get BA.. dunno if this is just in our heads but it seems to work.. (Keep fading on every tank switch from then on)

If you dont get him down in the three minute's it's pretty much a wipe except in some cases ;D