BESS Thread

Bears and Vodka

andrew wrote: »

Also, it's a bit of a waste of money. The library has loads of first year BESS books. The only one you might need to buy is the Economics Textbook (just get the business articles from JSTOR)

The Economics and the Maths & Stats books have online codes in them which we need to have to use the online systems MyEconLab and MyMathLab. And we were told we kinda need those cos even tests and homeworks will be distributed via those. Sure you can get them separately but then you also need to look for the books as well etc.

The BESS Pack and the new books in general are a rip-off but I think its much easier if you have them if you have the means to get them. But yeah options are there I guess.

Awayindahils

andrew wrote: »

Oh yeah, forgot about that. At least they're the most useful books anyway. Sociology, Politics and Business books were mostly a waste in my experience.

I don't think I ever bought a single politics book. Definitely don't need them for politics or sociology or business in first year. The maths books tend to be useful as the courses get a bit more mathematical after first year and it's good to have a reference point.

UrbanSea

I would have said you definitely need the business book, it has all the readings you have to do for the tutorials.

Never used Sociology

UrbanSea

subz3r0 wrote: »

I used my common sense and walked inside the entrance beside which it says "Trinity College. College Green".Literally next entrance to Starbucks at the bus stop. It's the entrance with the annoying automatic door.

I got a giggle out of that heh

DazHealy

For everyone moaning about the cost of the first year bess books and pack I've all of last years books that im looking to offload. Drop a pm if you're interested

guineylab

anyone have the MCQ answers to the 2010 or 2011 intro to econ 1st semester midterm?

ronano

Any bess first year students know how to locate 'Meteor : How an Irish start-up changed the face of the mobile market' for intro to org and mgmt?

Hande hoche!

It's in the intro to management and organisation textbook. Should be some copies in the library.

Meerkat11

Can anyone help with this economics question?
Consider the proposed Irish government policy ofintroducing a tax on property under the headings of Efficiency, Equity and Simplicity. Does the proposed property tax meet theseprinciples? Why or why not?

Thanks

andrew

Meerkat11 wrote: »

Can anyone help with this economics question?
Consider the proposed Irish government policy ofintroducing a tax on property under the headings of Efficiency, Equity and Simplicity. Does the proposed property tax meet theseprinciples? Why or why not?

Thanks

Read the relevant chapter in The Irish Economy Textbook

Meerkat11

Thanks Andrew I have done that still isn't sinking in

andrew

Meerkat11 wrote: »

Thanks Andrew I have done that still isn't sinking in

Exactly which bits don't you get/understand?

Meerkat11

Basically all of it to be honest! I'm not really good at this subject? I know what each one means but I dont know how to apply them to the property tax!

andrew

Meerkat11 wrote: »

Basically all of it to be honest! I'm not really good at this subject? I know what each one means but I dont know how to apply them to the property tax!

For example, you know about horizontal and vertical equality right? Just have a think about whether a property tax is equitable in these respects and make an argument; you're not going to find an objectively correct answer anywhere.

UrbanSea

I might be a bit late, but where are the answers for the economics test listed?

ronano

are there tutorials next week or just lectures?

fland

First year here,
I can see on the BESS website that if we want to do Economics + Business next year, we have to choose 'EC2010, EC2020, EC2040' on the Economics side. Is EC2020, The Economy of Ireland, really compulsory? I would find that bizarre considering the number of international students on the course.
EC2030, The Economics of Public Policy, is on the module list but is not listed as an option in any of the second year configurations.

How much choice are we given for second year? If we want to do Economics and Business do we really have to choose EC2010, EC2020, EC2040, BU2511a+b, BU2520a+b, BU2541a+b?

Thanks.

Richieee

fland wrote: »

If we want to do Economics and Business do we really have to choose EC2010, EC2020, EC2040, BU2511a+b, BU2520a+b, BU2541a+b?

Yes. Although I also don't understand why the Policy course can't be chosen instead

Crann na Beatha

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fland

Richieee wrote: »

Yes. Although I also don't understand why the Policy course can't be chosen instead

Oh wow ok, I'll ask around about this, thanks .

Another question: anyone know what the story is with BESS and Broad Curriculum modules? Can I just do the BESS course and slap an extra module on top of it (eg Psychology or something)?

Ta.

olazbabes

strangest business course ive ever heard- no sense of direction. how can business, economics and soiology be a course! Trinity has its prestige but is business school is not specific enough-eg DCU,maynooth n dit of accounting, finance, eco etc and languauges are core modules of business degrees

Bears and Vodka

olazbabes wrote: »

strangest business course ive ever heard- no sense of direction. how can business, economics and soiology be a course! Trinity has its prestige but is business school is not specific enough-eg DCU,maynooth n dit of accounting, finance, eco etc and languauges are core modules of business degrees

That's only for First year. After First year you choose two general areas, like I chose Business and Economics and you pursue that. Some people chose Politics and Sociology, so they do that. So it's not even a Business course per se. Only if you choose to do Business after First year.

olazbabes

Bears and Vodka wrote: »

That's only for First year. After First year you choose two general areas, like I chose Business and Economics and you pursue that. Some people chose Politics and Sociology, so they do that. So it's not even a Business course per se. Only if you choose to do Business after First year.

Ok. But let's say s student realised that they like accounting. The Bess degree doesnt offer exemptions. It is a good course as career wise is not really career focus and limits options in future.

pugwall

olazbabes wrote: »

Ok. But let's say s student realised that they like accounting. The Bess degree doesnt offer exemptions. It is a good course as career wise is not really career focus and limits options in future.

It's a great course that opens up plenty of doors career wise. I'm a graduate and I now am an accounting manager in industry. I didn't even specialise in accounting. I gave it up after the module in senior freshman. Fellow graduate friends [10 years ago ] are accountants in practice, accountants in industry, management consultants with top names in consulting, FX traders sales in the city of London, fund managers, sales executives in industry, googles, entrepreneurs, NGOs, Government advisors, the list goes on.
I find the most boring route to becoming an accountant is the pure accounting degree, followed by an MA in accounting, followed by a stint in audit practice in one of the big 4. Don't get me wrong, I know some fine accountants that went down that route but the thought of studying pure accounting for 8 years doesn't really sit well with me. All professional accounting qualifications start from scratch and most people able for them can easily adapt and with appropriate experience master accounting after 3 years training. My advice, choose BESS as an all rounder course with access to 10 degree possibilities including accounting. But you may find like I did that there are other more interesting subjects and leave accounting until later. Good luck!

olazbabes

pugwall wrote: »

It's a great course that opens up plenty of doors career wise. I'm a graduate and I now am an accounting manager in industry. I didn't even specialise in accounting. I gave it up after the module in senior freshman. Fellow graduate friends [10 years ago ] are accountants in practice, accountants in industry, management consultants with top names in consulting, FX traders sales in the city of London, fund managers, sales executives in industry, googles, entrepreneurs, NGOs, Government advisors, the list goes on.
I find the most boring route to becoming an accountant is the pure accounting degree, followed by an MA in accounting, followed by a stint in audit practice in one of the big 4. Don't get me wrong, I know some fine accountants that went down that route but the thought of studying pure accounting for 8 years doesn't really sit well with me. All professional accounting qualifications start from scratch and most people able for them can easily adapt and with appropriate experience master accounting after 3 years training. My advice, choose BESS as an all rounder course with access to 10 degree possibilities including accounting. But you may find like I did that there are other more interesting subjects and leave accounting until later. Good luck!

Thanks for your insight. At the same time though that was 10 years ago. Things are really different now!-Economic changes-.I appliead for Finance n Accounting and it should cover me for some options. A lot of people think acc is boring fair enough but it is the most practical and langauage of business. In the end if I hate ACC after BAi would specilise in Finance-banking. All I know is that every business course has a bit of ACC in it. Thanks

crow2

Guys ,I got 495 points on me leaving.
Do you think it is enough for this year?

sganyfx

520 Points, English, Maths and French (Ordinary) passed I am pretty much in please be so...?

Nicolekillion

crow2 wrote: »

Guys ,I got 495 points on me leaving.
Do you think it is enough for this year?

i hope so!!

Bears and Vodka

Last year was 495, so I'll be hesitant to say whether you will get it, but I'd say you have a good chance of getting it on Round 2 of offers at least.

shannonpreston

i got 505 and im so unsure about whether it will be enough or not? monday couldnt come faster

sganyfx

Will I need a laptop for this course, or just a shed load of notebooks?

Richieee

sganyfx wrote: »

Will I need a laptop for this course, or just a shed load of notebooks?

Notebooks will be sufficient in terms of note-taking. A laptop is very useful to have with you when assignments are due however, particularly if you want to work on them in the library/elsewhere around college.

So you don't need a laptop, but I'd recommend getting one unless you want to do all coursework away from college (plus it's handy to have one with you if you need to waste a few hours).

Edit: There are computer rooms you can use but it's more convenient to have a laptop of your own, especially around exam times.

fland

Teaching for all SFs seems to start on monday 23rd, can I safely arrive in Dublin on the monday or will I need to be in the week before for some kind of introductory lecture / registration etc.?

Edit: For anyone else wondering, just rang BESS course office and non-JFs start on the 23rd, no need to be in any earlier. This is probably obvious to everyone else I just couldn't see the information (other than when 'teaching starts') anywhere.

sganyfx

Richieee wrote: »

Notebooks will be sufficient in terms of note-taking. A laptop is very useful to have with you when assignments are due however, particularly if you want to work on them in the library/elsewhere around college.

So you don't need a laptop, but I'd recommend getting one unless you want to do all coursework away from college (plus it's handy to have one with you if you need to waste a few hours).

Edit: There are computer rooms you can use but it's more convenient to have a laptop of your own, especially around exam times.

Thank you

What about stationary requirements, notebooks, calculators etc? Any suggestions or recommendations?

Smiley Laura

Anyone else doing BESS and going to join DUHAC?? Looking for fellow middle/long distance runners

Tragedy

Anyone just after starting JS BESS on here?

George_Foreman

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Dropping No Eaves

Yo whaddup homeslices, quick question regarding BESS and the French module associated with it.

Well p. much I would be interested in doing French as I'm quite proficient in it (my dad's French!), however I didn't end up doing it for the Leaving Cert. Do you need to have done it in the LC to qualify for it in Trinnerrrs BESS? Thanks mucho.

andrew

George_Foreman wrote: »

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That's a pretty mathsy set of courses you've got there. If you're happy with maths, then you'll be grand.

studentTCD

Any opinions/comments on the following JS modules?

Money and Banking

Investment Analysis

Industrial Economics

Public International Law

kickstickik

Do you guys think 515 points is enough to get into BESS this year? There's been a huge increase in demand for business courses according to the CAO so I'm worried about a crazy jump.

Raspberry Fileds

kickstickik wrote: »

Do you guys think 515 points is enough to get into BESS this year? There's been a huge increase in demand for business courses according to the CAO so I'm worried about a crazy jump.

You have to remember that that demand is across all courses. Only ten percent score above 500. So, assuming that the distribution of that demand is uniform, the potential increase for BESS is only ten percent of that demand. A twenty-point jump for one of the largest courses in the country would be remarkable.

lauramarie13

kickstickik wrote: »

Do you guys think 515 points is enough to get into BESS this year? There's been a huge increase in demand for business courses according to the CAO so I'm worried about a crazy jump.

What about 500 points? Do ye think that's enough? I have a bad feeling!

RedMickeyMouse

Lads, I'm sitting on 490 and hoping to get into either BESS or Business and German, ye will both be fine!

lauramarie13

Can anyone help me with this? I was just wondering, when you go on to my.tcd.ie and click on "my application" does it say "unconditional offer- waiting for response" beside your course? Because it says that beside mine and I want to make sure everything's normal! I got the email from the CAO saying that they've recorded my acceptance, but I'm still kinda worried about the "unconditional offer- waiting for response" thing...

whoopsadaisy

lauramarie13 wrote: »

Can anyone help me with this? I was just wondering, when you go on to my.tcd.ie and click on "my application" does it say "unconditional offer- waiting for response" beside your course? Because it says that beside mine and I want to make sure everything's normal! I got the email from the CAO saying that they've recorded my acceptance, but I'm still kinda worried about the "unconditional offer- waiting for response" thing...

I have this too - have no idea what it means and also a bit worried by it I'm hoping everything is okay??

andrew

When I got an offer for my MSc, that message just meant that I had an offer with no conditions (as in, no strings attached, you have the place), and I just needed to accept the place. I presume it means they same thing for you, it's just the system hasn't been updated yet or something. Don't worry, if the CAO say you have the place you have the place.

lauramarie13

andrew wrote: »

When I got an offer for my MSc, that message just meant that I had an offer with no conditions (as in, no strings attached, you have the place), and I just needed to accept the place. I presume it means they same thing for you, it's just the system hasn't been updated yet or something. Don't worry, if the CAO say you have the place you have the place.

Oh okay, thank you!

lmcgtb

Does anyone have an idea for when we'll be able to register? How long did they take last year?

kickstickik

When do they normally release timetables for BESS? I applied for a job and they want to know what hours I'll be available ASAP.