ultimate build

KamiKazi

how hard is it to get it to address 4 gigs of ram?

conzy

KamiKazi wrote:

how hard is it to get it to address 4 gigs of ram?

Its impossible.

You need a 64bit Processer and a 64bit Operating system to address more than 4gb of ram....

KamiKazi

so an AMD x2 and windows xp 64 edition would work?

conzy

Yes, but why would you need more than 4gbs of ram?

512mb isnt enough

1gig is perfect

2gigs help some programs out a bit more

4gig is just silly

riptide

conzymaher wrote:

Yes, but why would you need more than 4gbs of ram?

512mb isnt enough

1gig is perfect

2gigs help some programs out a bit more

4gig is just silly

Unless he was working a lot with VMware!

conzy

But seen as he has a XPS laptop and is a frequenter of the CSS forum, I assumed that gaming would be the primary purpose of this rig:D

KamiKazi

conzymaher wrote:

I assumed that gaming would be the primary purpose of this rig:D

u damn rite

but id have a gig of video ram, so id have to keep it in proportion rite??:D

i.e. 4 gigs of ram

conzy

Ah..............NO:D

2gb is loads

And if you use all the DIMMs on a S939 board the Command rate drope to 2T which is a performance hit.

WizZard

Plus some, so-called "Premium" boards have... "issues" with 4Gb RAM.

KamiKazi

in fairness theres no point gettin 4 gigs of ram.
games atm wont use it all, and u would have to buy xp64.

might as well wait for vista

conzy

KamiKazi wrote:

in fairness theres no point gettin 4 gigs of ram.
games atm wont use it all, and u would have to buy xp64.

might as well wait for vista

Are you talking to yourself?

KamiKazi

i was yeah, but i forgot to put
*start think*


*end think*

conzy

Ok:D

I thought you were going crazy after the untimely death of your XPS:p

KamiKazi

i did go crazy for a little while, then realised what sort of machine i could build for the price of the xps:D

NutJob

KamiKazi wrote:

in fairness theres no point gettin 4 gigs of ram.
games atm wont use it all, and u would have to buy xp64.

might as well wait for vista

Wait for vista thats a bad idea.


4gig of ram is excessive 2 gig matched corsayer low latentancy ram a better buy.

Mabe 2 serial ata 2 drives in raid 0 (if a hard drive dies it dies but so does 1 big drive)


after that its down to what you want intel or x64


For the price of an xps ur better off building ur own. XPS are for gamers who arnt willing to do some research. Hell Komplett tell you what parts go together!

gline

for an ultimate build i think you would be looking at 8way or more dual core opterons, all phase change cooled and oc'd, as much ram that will fit on the board, as much hdds that fit on the board, sli if available (gfx phase cooled too) and an aircooler in the case. all volt mods done and everything ocd to max

but thats just a dream build and probably wouldnt even be possible

Cuddlesworth

gline wrote:

for an ultimate build i think you would be looking at 8way or more dual core opterons, all phase change cooled and oc'd, as much ram that will fit on the board, as much hdds that fit on the board, sli if available (gfx phase cooled too) and an aircooler in the case. all volt mods done and everything ocd to max

but thats just a dream build and probably wouldnt even be possible

I'v heard from oc forums that trying to oc quad core systems and keep them stable is like trying to ram your head ino a brick wall.

gline

krazy_8s wrote:

I'v heard from oc forums that trying to oc quad core systems and keep them stable is like trying to ram your head ino a brick wall.

ah yeh id say so, multi chips to oc and ram would be ecc ram and not mad preformace ram so kinda hard to oc that, plus the mobos arent designed to be oc'd

po0k

riptide wrote:

Unless he was working a lot with VMware!

Xen ftw!

...why would you overclock an enterprise system? This is completely against the grain and roots of overclocking.

This makes my belly glow.

conzy

gline wrote:

ah yeh id say so, multi chips to oc and ram would be ecc ram and not mad preformace ram so kinda hard to oc that, plus the mobos arent designed to be oc'd

And its 4 times more likely that you will end up with a brick.......

gline

conzymaher wrote:

And its 4 times more likely that you will end up with a brick.......

yeh.... but boy would it be sweet, hhahaha

conzy

The Turion X2s came out today......

They got whooped by the Core Duos.......





Come On K8L:D

gline

wow they got whupped bad, thats not good at all

g5hn710m4xpdwy

gline wrote:

for an ultimate build i think you would be looking at 8way or more dual core opterons, all phase change cooled and oc'd, as much ram that will fit on the board, as much hdds that fit on the board, sli if available (gfx phase cooled too) and an aircooler in the case. all volt mods done and everything ocd to max

[Boast]
Yeah well my borhter gets to work on computers like these;)
[/Boast]
thats would be a beast of a computer to have, maybe you and richard downer could match up and be able to aford it :P

conzy

Look how bad the ML-40 does:eek:

Even my Super budget €450 Inspiron 1300 with a Celeron M 1.5 ghz does it in 55 seconds...

Anyway, We dont need to worry about upgrading until the battle is over:)

In other news......:D Dell are starting to use Opteron Processers in their high end servers, But no news of them using AMD in Desktop systems......

po0k

Wish they'd pull the thumb out and let me get some VT-x into racks.
Hate dealing with sales monkeys.
HP ftw.

riptide

gline wrote:

for an ultimate build i think you would be looking at 8way or more dual core opterons, all phase change cooled and oc'd, as much ram that will fit on the board, as much hdds that fit on the board, sli if available (gfx phase cooled too) and an aircooler in the case. all volt mods done and everything ocd to max

but thats just a dream build and probably wouldnt even be possible

I need a brace of them for the project thats in my sig!

Cuddlesworth

I would not trust those graphs seems a few choice sites have chosen to forget certain things when testing Intel v Amd. Like dual channel channel and low cas memory for one brand.

po0k

Name and shame the sites if you have proof.
Tomshardware being one of them I'd wager....

conzy

The benchmarks were run on Identical PCs, bot using the exact same DDR2 ram.

The only difference was chipset/cpu