Arsenal Transfer Rumours And General Chat

Mr Alan

spot the typo in the above article!

AnCapaillMor

Mr Alan wrote: »

spot the typo in the above article!

Premier League giants Eveton?

yahoo_moe

leninbenjamin wrote: »

and indication perhaps that Wenger sees him as the long term replacement for Gilberto in midfield?

As far as I remember, Wenger's said that he sees centre-back qualities in him and plans for him to play there (another of his Toure/Lauren/Henry moves)... great news, though - even though some here were quite critical of him, I thought he did pretty well last year

If we're going for a bargain keeper, I'd prefer someone like Jussi myself (even if he's verbally agreed a new Bolton contract) - Given's missed too many matches recently for my liking

Pepe LeFrits

Mr Alan wrote: »

spot the typo in the above article!

The relationship with the local rival – one area where Liverpool and Arsenal fans certainly see eye to eye!

Good to see that Ramsey has chosen us. Not so much because of his what he can do on a pitch, because I doubt we’ll see much of him next season, but because it reaffirms what people sometimes forget: that Arsenal are still a big draw. Although from what I’ve read about him, he could become a viable backup for Fabregas before too long. At any rate it’s nice to sign a player who isn’t already dreaming of playing for Real Madrid or Barcelona one day.

jank

Also nice to see one of the Home Countries players sign. Sky and co always like to stick the knife in about too many foreigners at Arsenal.

Mossy Monk

Anyone know when the new home jersey is going to be released?

jank

July 3rd I think

leninbenjamin

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Anyone know when the new home jersey is going to be released?

yeah it's July 3rd. check the link in one of Galvasean's posts above for more details.

gosplan

har har

How to become a fans favourite before you've even kicked a ball.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3672818,00.html

jank

gosplan wrote: »

har har

How to become a fans favourite before you've even kicked a ball.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3672818,00.html

LOL i love him already!

Evil_Clown

gosplan wrote: »

har har

How to become a fans favourite before you've even kicked a ball.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3672818,00.html

Maybe he might move to Premiership Giants Everton once finished with Stepping Stone Spurs !!!:D

yahoo_moe

gosplan wrote: »

har har

How to become a fans favourite before you've even kicked a ball.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3672818,00.html

Nice

Galvasean

I'd say a key factor in Ramsey choosing us over United and the giant blue Premier league club that isn't Chelsea was our Carling Cup approach. He can probably get a few games under his belt against quality opposition for Arsenal in that tournament. It worked for Fab and RvP.

Galvasean

Hey, anybody know any info about ticket availability for the Amsterdam Tournament?
As far as I can tell there is nothing online. Has it even officially been announced yet?
I'm hoping to get out there with some mates this year.

Pepe LeFrits

Tickets aren't available yet as far as I know. I have to get out there one of these years, would be great craic I'd imagine.

vincenzo1975

http://english.ajax.nl/web/show/id=154814/contentid=66669

I would imagine an email to Ajax's ticket office would get you the answer.

ShoulderChip

Would ye like Thorsten Frings to Replace The Flamini void?

He is versatile

Has experience

Would cost approx 4 million apparently.

//I am not trying to influence Wenger into a decision or anything

Team for 09:
Neur;
Sagna, Toure (C), Zapata/Gallas, Clichy;
Rosicky, Fabregas, Frings, Nasri;
Adebayor, Van Perise/Eduardo

leninbenjamin

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Would ye like Thorsten Frings to Replace The Flamini void?

only ever seen him when he plays for Germany, but he's not a bad player at all. could do a lot worse. might be worth a punt at that price. but it wont happen, not a Wenger buy really.

edit: didn't realise he is already over 30. they dont need another veteran with Gilberto still in the squad.

the more i think about it anyway i really want Denilson to be given a chance to make the place his own. he has the technical ability imo, he's shown that so far in the few times i've seen him. I think a good run in the team might give him the confidence needed.

ShoulderChip wrote: »

//I am not trying to influence Wenger into a decision or anything

pfft. how you're just playing mindgames. ignore him Arsene

~Rebel~

I haven't seen enough of Denilson really (seen plenty of games he's been in but wasn't paying specific attention to him), how is his tackling? if he were to take on Flamini's role in the team next to Fabregas he'd need to be fairly 'on the ball' defensively, so to speak.

tred

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Would ye like Thorsten Frings to Replace The Flamini void?

He is versatile

Has experience

Would cost approx 4 million apparently.

//I am not trying to influence Wenger into a decision or anything

Team for 09:
Neur;
Sagna, Toure (C), Zapata/Gallas, Clichy;
Rosicky, Fabregas, Frings, Nasri;
Adebayor, Van Perise/Eduardo

Rumours today, that Arsenal want Ya Ya toure plus 5 million for Hleb. Wenger has being following him for a long time. He could be the signing we want in the middle of the park. Big Strong and versitile. And it would be good business.

Pepe LeFrits

Denilson is a fairly tough nut, I wouldn’t have any concerns about his tackling at all. My only concerns would be whether he’d have the maturity and know-how to effectively shield the defence. His positioning and decision making might need a bit of work. He’s definitely got the battling qualities and technical ability to partner Cesc though. Le Prof described him as a cross between Gilberto and Rosicky; I’d say he’s more of a cross between Roy Keane and Edu or Xabi Alonso.

I’d be happy with Denilson replacing Flamini next season IF other areas of the team are strengthened. If Wenger signs a big, powerful CB for the starting eleven, keeps or replaces Hleb AND signs Nasri, then I’ll be happy to see Denilson get the nod because the team will be stronger overall and able to cope with any teething issues that might occur with Denilson settling in to a starting role. However, if the only change we see this summer is Nasri in and Hleb out, I shall not be a happy camper…

I’d love Frings at Arsenal. He’s a terrific player who I’ve rated for a long time. Very underrated. He’d be a superb partner for Cesc and he’d offer a creative edge that would offset the ‘downgrade’ of swapping Hleb for Nasri. He’d be an ideal stop-gap for a season or two until Denilson was completely ready to take over from him. Tough, mobile, strong tackler, shields the defence, passes well, scores from range and can take a free kick. I’d be amazed if Wenger went for a 31 year old though.

Don’t want Yaya.

IrishMike

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Denilson is a fairly tough nut, I wouldn’t have any concerns about his tackling at all. My only concerns would be whether he’d have the maturity and know-how to effectively shield the defence. His positioning and decision making might need a bit of work. He’s definitely got the battling qualities and technical ability to partner Cesc though. Le Prof described him as a cross between Gilberto and Rosicky; I’d say he’s more of a cross between Roy Keane and Edu or Xabi Alonso.

I’d be happy with Denilson replacing Flamini next season IF other areas of the team are strengthened. If Wenger signs a big, powerful CB for the starting eleven, keeps or replaces Hleb AND signs Nasri, then I’ll be happy to see Denilson get the nod because the team will be stronger overall and able to cope with any teething issues that might occur with Denilson settling in to a starting role. However, if the only change we see this summer is Nasri in and Hleb out, I shall not be a happy camper…

I’d love Frings at Arsenal. He’s a terrific player who I’ve rated for a long time. Very underrated. He’d be a superb partner for Cesc and he’d offer a creative edge that would offset the ‘downgrade’ of swapping Hleb for Nasri. He’d be an ideal stop-gap for a season or two until Denilson was completely ready to take over from him. Tough, mobile, strong tackler, shields the defence, passes well, scores from range and can take a free kick. I’d be amazed if Wenger went for a 31 year old though.

Don’t want Yaya.

May i ask why?
Yaya is a quality quality player.
The closest thing i have seen to Viera in a long time.
He is big, has a amazing engine, good tackler and most important of all he
is a good passer of the ball which is a rarity for a player in his position.
He has never looked out of place with his passing compared to the likes
of Xavi, Inestia and Deco in the barca midfield.
Why on earth would Arsenal not want him?

Galvasean

vincenzo1975 wrote: »

http://english.ajax.nl/web/show/id=154814/contentid=66669

I would imagine an email to Ajax's ticket office would get you the answer.

Oh its not til August? No rush so. I heard it was July so was getting a bit worried.

Mr Alan

how much are Arsenal getting Narsi for?

Pepe LeFrits

IrishMike wrote: »

May i ask why?
Yaya is a quality quality player.
The closest thing i have seen to Viera in a long time.
He is big, has a amazing engine, good tackler and most important of all he
is a good passer of the ball which is a rarity for a player in his position.
He has never looked out of place with his passing compared to the likes
of Xavi, Inestia and Deco in the barca midfield.
Why on earth would Arsenal not want him?

He lacks the mobility and defensive instincts that Arsenal need in a partner for Fabregas. He’s much more suited to playing further forward in the role that Fabregas plays and that Vieira played. He’s like a more-rounded version of Diaby.

Mr Alan wrote: »

how much are Arsenal getting Narsi for?

£11m to £13m are the figures being thrown around.

gosplan

IrishMike wrote: »

May i ask why?
Yaya is a quality quality player.
The closest thing i have seen to Viera in a long time.
He is big, has a amazing engine, good tackler and most important of all he
is a good passer of the ball which is a rarity for a player in his position.
He has never looked out of place with his passing compared to the likes
of Xavi, Inestia and Deco in the barca midfield.
Why on earth would Arsenal not want him?

He's good but he strikes me as slightly clumsy and doesn't have the technical ability to play in the Arsenal midfield - and remember Viera played alongside another defensive midfielder.

But on the whole, this story seems like a load of crap. Hleb possibly going to the place that Toure's brother plays implies some kind of a swap.

Wenger had the chance to sign Yaya and chose not to, can't see him changing his mind.

Also there's no way Barca would let him go as they really don't have a backup.

leninbenjamin

More crap in the Italian press about Adebayor to Milan.

don't read Italian, but it's saying something like he has instructed his agent to inform Arsenal he wants to move. or some crap. it also seems to make mention of Galliani perhaps travelling to London to make an offer... i think.

yahoo_moe

BBC wrote:

Eduardo may return in pre-season

Arsenal striker Eduardo could be involved in pre-season training after making good progress in his recovery from a career-threatening injury.

The 25-year-old suffered a fractured left fibula and an open dislocation of his left ankle after a tackle by Birmingham's Martin Taylor in February.

Arsenal physiotherapist Gary Lewin said: "Hopefully, he will be back doing training during pre-season.

"We're setting no timescales. We don't want to put him under any pressure."

Lewin, who is to leave the Gunners to take up a role as head of physiotherapy with the England senior team next month, added: "We are confident Eduardo will make a full recovery."

The Croatia forward had been expected to be out of the game for nine months, but the former Dynamo Zagreb player has been doing extensive rehabilitation work in his native Brazil.

Meanwhile, midfielder Tomas Rosicky, who, like Eduardo, has been forced to miss Euro 2008 through injury, is making a good recovery after undergoing knee surgery.

Lewin told the club's official website: "Tomas has had surgery on his knee and we expect him to be flying by pre-season.

"We have had some real nasty injuries and I think that is part and parcel of the game.

"Look back at the years, we have been successful and we have had luck with injuries and not picked up many nasty injuries. Hopefully that will be the case next season."

Seems Bilic and the various Croatian sources were spot on about Eduardo's recovery... I'd imagine he won't be back in full training that soon but great to hear it from Gary Lewin that he'll probably be back before the initial estimate of January.

Hope he's right about Rosicky too.

Roddy23

Here seems to be the latest clip of Eduardo in Brazil. Encouraging to say the least.

http://arsenalanalysis.blogspot.com/2008/06/another-premiership-team-asks-for.html

Indie18

Mr Alan wrote: »

how much are Arsenal getting Narsi for?

i don't think thats a done deal yet.......still hoping it goes through though.

Mr Alan

I was just thinking if Barry falls through I'd love us to hijack it

but i remember reading a quote from Wenger while he was commentating on a match the the other week where he said the deal was pretty much done, or did i dream that?!

Indie18

who knows with wenger what he does be doing in the summer. i was reading today that arsenal are looking for yaya and 9 mil for hleb now. i think keeping hleb is vital though

Evil_Clown

Mr Alan wrote: »

I was just thinking if Barry falls through I'd love us to hijack it

but i remember reading a quote from Wenger while he was commentating on a match the the other week where he said the deal was pretty much done, or did i dream that?!

Am I not mad or are you a Liverpool fan
Wenger will not go for Barry imo, Liverpool have this one sown up

leninbenjamin

Evil_Clown wrote: »

Am I not mad or are you a Liverpool fan
Wenger will not go for Barry imo, Liverpool have this one sown up

Alan's true colours revealed at last? :pac:

he probably meant Nasri

Mr Alan

I did of course mean Nasri

Evil_Clown

Mr Alan wrote: »

I did of course mean Nasri

So you are not an evil double agent
Crisis averted Gunners fans

Pepe LeFrits

Ramsey confirmed by Arsenal.com. Likened to a young Bryan Robson in an article on the website. Now Nasri please!

Galvasean

Apparently Barcelona have offered £8million for Hleb. Lets wait and see...

leninbenjamin

Galvasean wrote: »

Apparently Barcelona have offered £8million for Hleb. Lets wait and see...

he should be easily worth twice that... I read today anyway that Barca's interest has cooled anyway.

Mossy Monk

I hope it doesn't cool. I would hate to see Hleb at arsenal next season.

kryogen

why would you hate to see Hleb at Arsenal next season? very good player imo

anyways, are you lot gonna buy Shay Given or wha?

OPENROAD

kryogen wrote: »

why would you hate to see Hleb at Arsenal next season? very good player imo

anyways, are you lot gonna buy Shay Given or wha?

Why would we want Given, maybe as a number two, but Almunia is better imo. We don't have issue with keepers imo.

kryogen

heard a rumour about it today....ill have a look for a link




EDIT: some links as promised

http://www.soccernews.com/shay-given-on-the-way-to-arsenal/3114/

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/nufc/Arsenal-linked-with-Given-move.4164437.jp

http://blogs.notw.co.uk/sport/2008/06/given-for-arsen.html

estebancambias

OPENROAD wrote: »

Why would we want Given, maybe as a number two, but Almunia is better imo. We don't have issue with keepers imo.

Oh for **** sake man. Given has for years proved himself to be among the best keepers in the EPL.

Almunia is a decent keeper but not near the level of Given.

OPENROAD

kryogen wrote: »

heard a rumour about it today....ill have a look for a link

actually has been going for a couple of weeks now, think Almunia is doing well, would not have Given above him, think our money would be better spent on a cb.

kryogen

estebancambias wrote: »

Oh for **** sake man. Given has for years proved himself to be among the best keepers in the EPL.

Almunia is a decent keeper but not near the level of Given.

Agree 100% Given is a phenomenal goalkeeper and tbh if he was English or Italian or Spanish he would be hailed in the media as the best in the world by now!

top class keeper

leninbenjamin

Corriere Della Sport in Italy claiming that Milan have finally contacted Arsenal about Adebayor. so you know everything else has been agreed... :rolleyes:

Emmanuel Adebayor's agent Stephane Courbis claims that AC Milan have spoken to Arsenal about the Togo international striker and "know everything depends on what Arsenal want to do". (Il Corriere Dello Sport 2002 BST)

this could last til the end of the window...

Galvasean

Given can't get the #1 spot at Newcastle anymore and people expect him to walk into it at Arsenal?
He's great when he's fit but his fitness has been awful for about a year now.

Mossy Monk

kryogen wrote: »

why would you hate to see Hleb at Arsenal next season? very good player imo

I am not doubting that he is a great player but I do not think any player should be there if he doesn't want to be there.

Galvasean

Agreed. No point in having a player, even if he has exceptional abilities, if he has no desire to play well for the club.