Best episode?

Dirk Gently

One of the best episodes on sky one right now. Yesterday’s enterprise.

War with the klingons / porn star Tasha resurrected / jean luc defiantly making a last stand against the klingons / Worf declaring he is too much of a horn bag for human women to handle, what more do you want! (Maybe an appearance by Q)

Love any episode in which the feeble federation is portrayed as warriors and not puny peace loving explorers agonizing over the morality of the prime directive.

Any thoughts on other users favourite episode?
Episodes involving Wesley crusher / councilor Troy’s mother / moral dilema about the prime directive / or Dr. palaski don’t count because their all s.h.i.t.

bizmark

The one where sisko "dies" and jake spends his life trying to rescue his father ...very moveing father/son program that just isnt done now adays

And the feds arent weak they beat the dominion after all

Ro: maaan!

Watched one of my favourite episodes last night. "Damage". Loved that series of Enterprise. It's not that it's a particulary good episode on it's own. But it seems to sum up the general feel of the whole series.

Other than that, any episode of DS9 past the 2nd series.

monkeyfudge

Every time the rescreen TNG on sky I tend to pick up on an episode I've never seen before...

This time around it was a really horrible episode which was esentially Riker clip show... he was infected by some plant or some such and this was an excuse to show random scenes featuring Riker throughout the series... terrible stuff.

I think my favourite episode of all the series is the DS9 with Kira interogating the Cardassian she believes is a horrible war criminal... it was a first season episode and really good.

The City on the Edge of Forever is of course one of the other best episodes of all time.

bizmark

monkeyfudge wrote:

Every time the rescreen TNG on sky I tend to pick up on an episode I've never seen before...

This time around it was a really horrible episode which was esentially Riker clip show... he was infected by some plant or some such and this was an excuse to show random scenes featuring Riker throughout the series... terrible stuff.

They did that episode because they ran out of money

Yesterdays enterprise remined me of how badly tng treated the galaxy class it was always shown as a big weak wast of resources that has no place in a desperate war thankfuly ds9 set that stright.

Johnny Storm

bizmark wrote:

The one where sisko "dies" and jake spends his life trying to rescue his father ...very moveing father/son program that just isnt done now adays

Yep. That's called "the Visitor". Although I am mainly a TOS and TNG fan that ep is deffo my favourite ever Trek ep. Just suberb plot and acting. It was just stunning because it was so different from all the eps before and after it. I never really "got" Sisko until that ep. It also had a great view of the future of the DS9 charactors (eg Nog joining Star Fleet etc). FWIW on a personal note I actually cried during this ep which I never do in response to a TV show.

I don't think this ep stands up too well to repeated viewing though because when you know whats going to happen its a bit flat and actual events (eg Jadzia) superceeded the view of the future shown. But still, its the best ever.


EDIT: some other great eps are 1) Q Who, very dark, first sight of the Borg, 2) the first part of "Best of both Worlds" where Picard is assimilated - a genuine cliffhanger where among other things they use Rikers basic superflousness as a plot device, 3) "All Good Things..." prequel scenes, the future of the charactors, tying the whole series together, great FX (for the time on TV) - what's not to like? and of course all the usual TOS suspects - the one with the Horta, the one with Joan Collins etc

azezil

bizmark wrote:

They did that episode because they ran out of money

Yesterdays enterprise remined me of how badly tng treated the galaxy class it was always shown as a big weak wast of resources that has no place in a desperate war thankfuly ds9 set that stright.

Oh don't be silly, big ass Galaxy Class got whooped by 2 Jem'Hadar raiders while 2 run-abouts came out unscratched, big waste of space and resources :P

Meanwhile...

I'll go with Best of Both Worlds, and because I'm easily impressed by silly over the top technology from the future! End Game.

bizmark

azezil wrote:

Oh don't be silly, big ass Galaxy Class got whooped by 2 Jem'Hadar raiders while 2 run-abouts came out unscratched, big waste of space and resources :P

Meanwhile...

I'll go with Best of Both Worlds, and because I'm easily impressed by silly over the top technology from the future! End Game.

It was 3 and they did ram the ship and have the advanage of being able to fire through its sheilds

azezil

See, crap shields, can't withstand one little ship scratching its paint

And if its an all powerfull battleship, as you'd contest, why couldn't it have stopped them, hell even ONE of them, without its shields? HUH where were their type 10 (12 whatever) phasers then HUH... yeah go back to Greenland ya hippy! ;P

bizmark

azezil wrote:

See, crap shields, can't withstand one little ship scratching its paint

And if its an all powerfull battleship, as you'd contest, why couldn't it have stopped them, hell even ONE of them, without its shields? HUH where were their type 10 (12 whatever) phasers then HUH... yeah go back to Greenland ya hippy! ;P

Damn you damn you to hell! I have to put on my nerd hat now.

This is all from memory but ill try meh best....

The jem hadar ships didn’t over power the galaxy class shields their weapons simply bypassed them due to being polarized or some such crap while the odysseys couldn’t hurt the dominion ships because there shields where immune to federation weapons this was ment to have been explained by the dominion wanting to conquer the federation for many years before the opening of the wormhole afaik but was never mentioned in the show.

So in short the oddysee didn’t have any defense apart from its hull which held up quite well until it was rammed by a large fast ship :P and added to that didn’t have any offences capabilities against the attacking ships the oddysee was boned from the outset...But in later episodes galaxy class starships where shown destroying or crippling cardasian galor class and jemhadar bug ships with only 1 shot while the uss galaxy itself was shown taken massive damage from orbital weapons systems and fighting on. Cleary the federation moved forward in its understanding of dominion shields and weapons during the war allowing the galaxy class to express itself much better as a powerful ship of the line. As for the runabouts they where no doubt allowed to return to ds9 to relay the moral damaging news of a lost of a galaxy class warship so easily oh and because they had that dominion spy with them.

azezil

The Dominion spy was onboard a runabout AFTER the Odyssey was attacked.

The Odyssey was practically crippled with first shot! (directed particle beam to the port nacelle ).

The the hull didn't hold up well at all!
The Jem'Hadar raider struck the starboard side of the main deflector, the ship almost instantly exploded!
I seem to recall a certain Excelsior class star ship being hit by an energy ribbon to the same section, with virtually identical damage to the hull, NOT exploding ;P

bizmark

azezil wrote:

The Dominion spy was onboard a runabout AFTER the Odyssey was attacked.

The Odyssey was practically crippled with first shot! (directed particle beam to the port nacelle ).

The the hull didn't hold up well at all!
The Jem'Hadar raider struck the starboard side of the main deflector, the ship almost instantly exploded!
I seem to recall a certain Excelsior class star ship being hit by an energy ribbon to the same section, with virtually identical damage to the hull, NOT exploding ;P

In fairness the E-b was hit on the side on its expenable hull lump around teh deflector special built to hold kirks rampant ego where as the oddy was hit nearly stright on into its deflector destroying it the warp naccle and possible the warp core the damage was bound to be rather fatal :P no ship would be able to limp home after that! cool artical on it Herel btw.

As for the oddy being nearly crippled with the first shot remember it kept fighting till the end the only way they destroyed it was by ramming so i wouldnt be to sure of that.

monkeyfudge

If I remember correctly the Jem Hadar didn't actually have to ram it.. they just did that as an example of how far they were willing to go.

(I can't believe I'm getting involved in this.... sigh...)

Peter Collins

So sad :rolleyes:

bizmark

monkeyfudge wrote:

If I remember correctly the Jem Hadar didn't actually have to ram it.. they just did that as an example of how far they were willing to go.

Aye the federation ships where retreting to the wormhole at the time showing that the galaxy class was not crippled the jem hadar had to ram it in order to destroy it before the fleet reached the wormhole.

(I can't believe I'm getting involved in this.... sigh...)

Its all in good fun

azezil

After the first shot to the nacelle they show the bridge and its falling apart, the bridge is nowhere near the freakin nacelle, not to mention the fact that the nacelle failed after just one shot!

As for your earlier argument about ripping through a Galor class, well they just stink anyway, TNG Nebula class kicked the crap outta them

bizmark

azezil wrote:

After the first shot to the nacelle they show the bridge and its falling apart, the bridge is nowhere near the freakin nacelle, not to mention the fact that the nacelle failed after just one shot!

As for your earlier argument about ripping through a Galor class, well they just stink anyway, TNG Nebula class kicked the crap outta them

Seems to be a feture of fed ships no matter what happens to any part of the ship the bridge will take the brunt of the damage

monkeyfudge

The Defiant was tough though right? We can all agree on that, can't we?

Dirk Gently

Don't think you will get anyone disagreeing with that. The Defiant always gave as good as she got.

Owen

And when are you all climbing out of your basements again?

Patricide

ned78 wrote:

And when are you all climbing out of your basements again?

What he said, Although i must be a pretty big nerd myself cause all those episodes are bringing back good memories.

bizmark

Always makes me laugh how some people take time out on a internet web forum at 1,30 in the morning to call other people sad ......the irony is f*cking amazing

azezil

heh yus, meanwhile, yes the Defiant is a tough little ship.

Lealonie

ned78 wrote:

And when are you all climbing out of your basements again?

u're the 1 in a star trek forum at 1 in the mornin on a friday nite

3 words pot kettle black lol

Gator

The best 2 episodes I have ever saw in tng was

1 - Q-Who......

Picard's nemesis, the powerful, extra-dimensional being named Q, hurls the U.S.S. Enterprise across the galaxy after Picard refuses to let him become a member of the crew.

Immediately upon arriving in this unexplored part of the galaxy, the Enterprise encounters an alien ship. Suddenly, two Borg — part organic and part artificial beings — appear in the Main Engineering room. Unfortunately, the U.S.S. Enterprise's defenses are helpless against the powerful aliens, who begin draining information from ship's computers.

Then, having surveyed the ship's weakened defensive capabilities, the Borg vessel demands the surrender of the U.S.S. Enterprise. When Picard refuses, a short but fierce battle ensues, leaving both ships badly damaged and 18 Enterprise crew members dead. Desperate to learn more about this seemingly invincible enemy, Picard sends an Away Team to investigate the Borg ship, which is controlled by the collective minds of all the Borg, rather than by an individual leader.

When Data reports that the Borg are busy repairing their vessel, Picard quickly orders the Away Team to beam back so that the U.S.S. Enterprise can make its escape while the aliens are dormant. But as soon as the ship begins moving, the Borg give chase.

With the Borg vessel gaining on the U.S.S. Enterprise, Q appears on the bridge to taunt Picard with insults about the inadequacies of the starship. As the Borg close in and prepare to finish off the ship and crew, Picard admits to Q that he needs his help. Delighted with the captain's confession, Q instantly hurls the Enterprise out of the remote part of the galaxy and back to safety



2 - The NTH Degree.... (this was my favourite)

When the U.S.S. Enterprise sets out to repair the Argus Array, a telescope that has stopped relaying data for two months, the crew discovers an alien probe near the telescope. Geordi takes Barclay, a notoriously shy crew member, to investigate. As they near the probe, it emits an energy surge that knocks Barclay unconscious, and he and Geordi are transported to Sickbay. Meanwhile, the probe begins to follow the starship, emitting a dangerously high energy level. When the crew is unable to evade it, Barclay amazes everyone by taking charge of the situation and eliminating the probe, saving the ship from destruction.

Turning back to the task of repairing the telescope, Geordi estimates the job will take three weeks. But Barclay, whose confidence and intelligence are continuing to grow, claims he can complete the job in two days. Geordi's pride in Barclay turns to concern, however, when he discovers his crewmate in the Holodeck arguing scientific theory with a simulated Einstein. Geordi insists to Barclay that the encounter with the probe must have precipitated the change and drags him to Sickbay, where Beverly Crusher's examination reveals an astounding change in Barclay's brain tissue that has rendered him the most advanced human being who ever lived.

Although the crew is frightened by the change in Barclay, the fact that they need him to repair the Array convinces them to leave him alone. As the repairs progress, however, the ship's computer is unable to work fast enough, creating the danger of a reactor failure in the telescope that could cause a deadly explosion. Picard orders an immediate retreat, but is informed that the Bridge has lost control of the computer. However, before panic can set in, the computer comes back on line and the crew learns the telescope has been saved. When Picard asks the computer to tell him how the disaster was averted, he is shocked when Barclay's voice answers.

Barclay explains that since the computer was too slow, he connected his brain to the computer to save the Array. Picard demands the engineer disconnect himself, but Barclay replies that this will cause his death. As the crew tries to devise a plan to regain control of the ship, Barclay propels the U.S.S. Enterprise to a point thirty thousand light-years away.

Before the crew can stop Barclay an alien suddenly appears on the Bridge, admitting that the probe transformed Barclay so he would bring the starship to him. The alien goes on to explain that this is his civilization's method of researching new races. Picard agrees to let him scan the brains of crew members if the aliens will transfer their knowledge of tens of thousands of civilizations into the starship's computer. As they talk, Barclay arrives on the Bridge, having been returned to normal by the aliens, but retaining a bit of the confidence and intelligence his experience gave him

Yes...I am a nerd:)

Kiith

i'm very surprised that no one has mentioned the ds9 episode, "In the Pale Moonlight" which is an absolute classis

Sick of the losses the Federation is taking in the war, Sisko enlists Garak's help in getting the Romulans to join the Federation against the Dominion. Sisko soon learns that in order to save the Federation, he must violate the values it stands for.

other "classics" would have to be "Far beyond the Stars", where Sisko dreams he's a 1950's science fiction writer. my personnal favourites are "In the Pale Moonlight", "Yesterday's Enterprise", "All Good Things", the first half of the ds9 finale, and many many others that i can't think of right now.

Johnny Storm

Kiith wrote:

... and many many others that i can't think of right now.

Yeah, they're my favoutite eps too ,LOL and I agree "Far beyond the Stars" was pretty good.

Destructor!!!

Good man, Kiith,
I read your post and thought "Now there's a guy I agree with completely" and then looked at your username and realised I knew you well.

I'd like to say the "The Visitor" from season 4 of DS9 is the most emotionally affecting instance of episodic TV I have ever seen. There wasn't a dry eye in the house after that one.

"The Sacrafice of Angels" was a kick ass action episode from DS9's 6th season, too.

And "In the pale Moonlight" is utterly superb.

"The Measure of a Man" Tng season 2 is brilliant aswell, with Data's sentiency and a move by starfleet to have him disected and studied are put on trial. When Picard gets righteous, sparks fly.

"Chain of Command" TNG, season 5, parts 1 and 2 are brilliant too, with Picard captured by the cardassians and undergoing torture, both physical and mental.
"There... Are ... FOUR ... LIGHTS!!" Stewart is such a superb actor.

"Yesterday's Enterprise", "Time's Arrow", and "Cause and Effect" are all great "Temporal anomoly" based shows, with the shocking pre-credits teaser of the Enterprise exploding in Cause and Effect.

J.R.HARTLEY

Cause and Effect with captain Kelsey grammer is my Favourite TNG episode, then starship mine, where picard goes all die hard on terrorists.
otherwise pretty much any episode from TOS season 1 or 2, don't mention the war (season 3 - spocks brain- shudder)

smilydude

Favourite episodes from Voyager have to be Scorpion parts 1 and 2, though part 1 built up the tension nicely, parts of the second episode were a bit so-so.

Also like Year of Hell 1&2 are pretty good just to see Voyager being slowly picked to pieces, really like the tension of the imminent destruction of deck 5! Brilliant stuff and graphics:D
Dark Frontier 1&2, 2nd best episode collection to contain the Borg.

From TNG, Encounter at Farpoint is by far the best pilot episode of all the series' I think, Best of Both Worlds is also worth a mention

Dickmcsavage

Well two episodes come to mind for me. First of all: 'Frame of mind'. I can't believe anyone hasn't mentioned this one yet. Its so good they made a song out of it and its also showed how good of an actor Riker was capable of being. Can't go on about it enough. Anyone remember that episode?
Secondly, now I don't remember the name of the episode but it was in the early TNG days. It was about this old star fleet negotiator who is being transfered to a planet by the enterprise for talks. During the trip he injests a chemical which makes him younger. I wont say any more if you havent seen it because I dont wanna ruin the whole thing.