Risky topic, but Stolen car crash today, do you care...

jamescrombie

i was in the area about 10 minutes after the crash and seen the car it was a complete wreck dont know how the girls didnt get killed.... i was thankful i wasnt on the road at the same ... I agree with most people he got what he deserved.... cruel and all as it is...

Kersh

Well thats it for me on this forum.

When people celebrate and joke over the death of a person for stealing a car i know its time to leave.

The lack of empathy is bordering on narcissism here.

So long then, maybe when he steals YOUR car you might think differently.
You do drugs, you dont pay, you get shot = tough.
You rob cars , you crash em, you die = tough.
Just lucky no innocents died this time.

drdre

Kersh wrote:

So long then, maybe when he steals YOUR car you might think differently.
You do drugs, you dont pay, you get shot = tough.
You rob cars , you crash em, you die = tough.
Just lucky no innocents died this time.

yes you are right kersh, i know how you would feel if one of your cars get robbed.my dads car got robbed right infront of our eyes and these scumbags got away with it.
the police should patrol m50,etc at night and catch these people as every week you see a car parked on the m50 just left there and sometimes with smashed windows.

Kersh

I have had 2 attempts, one on my gto, the other on my Prelude (they didnt get either cos they broke the steering wheels off attempting to break the locks), so now all cars are alarmed/immobilsed, chained, disclocked and blocked in.
I hope every joyrider dies. Simple as that.

Ay Cee

I wonder if the person was holding up a bank and was shot would the sympathy levels be the same?

Live by the sword...

muppetkiller

While I agree with many previous posts that society is not loosing anything by his death..I do see it as an awful waste of a life.

Maybe he can give something back now by donating his organs ..and save a life...

which could bring up another thread about the irony of fate

Heinrich

Ay Cee wrote:

I wonder if the person was holding up a bank and was shot would the sympathy levels be the same?

Live by the sword...

From some here the answer must be YES!

There was a topic some time back re a video of an armed raider being shot by a clerk and some of the contributions made out that the clerk was wrong and overreacting.

There are bleeding hearts everywhere.

MrPudding

muppetkiller wrote:

While I agree with many previous posts that society is not loosing anything by his death..I do see it as an awful waste of a life.

Maybe he can give something back now by donating his organs ..and save a life...

which could bring up another thread about the irony of fate

Yeah, I bet all the joyriders carry donor cards.

MrP

Heinrich

muppetkiller wrote:

Maybe he can give something back now by donating his organs ..and save a life...

Those genes are best left where they are, cremated or interred!

Giving something back indeed...

Stephen

Ay Cee wrote:

Live by the sword...

Exactly. Why should anyone feel sorry for him after his actions? sure, I have pity for his family and all, but I feel nothing for him.

Kersh

His family should have kept a better eye on him. If my/your parents could do it, why couldnt his.
Tough titties to all of them.

MrPudding

Stephen wrote:

Exactly. Why should anyone feel sorry for him after his actions? sure, I have pity for his family and all, but I feel nothing for him.

This is different from thinking that all joyriders should be put to death and similar to how I feel myself.

Kersh, I know you like cars and all but a death sentence is a bit much for steealing a car. :eek:

MrP

Kersh

I never mentioned death sentence, I said i would be happy if they all crashed into lampposts and combusted (well thats what i meant).
You know, a bit like the gangland killings - the more the merrier, every day i see one i smile.

drdre

Kersh wrote:

His family should have kept a better eye on him. If my/your parents could do it, why couldnt his.
Tough titties to all of them.

yes you are right.its up to the family.as they are bringing you up.but in fairness they cannot be with you all the time.

sneakyST

drdre wrote:

yes you are right.its up to the family.as they are bringing you up.but in fairness they cannot be with you all the time.

get into the real world young man and stop hiding behind your pc all day posting...not everyone has been spoon fed all their lives.

Kersh- I really hope one of your kids in the future doesnt get into anything bad in the future - you may not be so quick to start a thread celebrating.

This is supposed to be a motors board and a thread like this has no place here.

Stephen

A thread about some joyriding scrote has no place on a motors board?

Kersh

Ok sir, sorry for posting about CAR thieving scum, crashing CARS in the motors forum..:rolleyes: , i promise i wont do it again. Maybe ill post his untimely death in the HUMOUR forum instead.

sneakyST

Kersh wrote:

Ok sir, sorry for posting about CAR thieving scum, crashing CARS in the motors forum..:rolleyes: , i promise i wont do it again. Maybe ill post his untimely death in the HUMOUR forum instead.

no problem. Just dont do it again.
p.s i think most of your original post was more to do with the fact you were glad he was dead.:rolleyes: not about the crash.

Kersh

Well that too, i am glad, he was asking for it. I like my cars, I like racing and I spend quite a lot of money doing it, in as controlled an environment as can be, if he liked cars and speeding why didnt he get a good job, and come and do it????
Answers on a postcard please.....

blastman

While I don't actively wish death on anyone, I won't shed any tears over this one. Actions have consequences, some people are slow learners. Thankfully no-one else had to learn this lesson with him.

I do feel some sympathy for the family, that's it, though.

phoenix_nights

Kersh wrote:

Ok sir, sorry for posting about CAR thieving scum, crashing CARS in the motors forum..:rolleyes: , i promise i wont do it again. Maybe ill post his untimely death in the HUMOUR forum instead.

Karma my friend. I'd be mindful if i was you.

If we sow goodness, we will reap goodness; if we sow evil, we will reap evil.


Adios amigos. Will miss this forum but can't be a party to this.

Kersh

And mr Joyrider sowed evil, and now hes dead, fair play to Karma.

Rudolph Claus

Well thats it for me on this forum.

When people celebrate and joke over the death of a person for stealing a car i know its time to leave.

The lack of empathy is bordering on narcissism here.

Wake up you tosser, which world do you live in? I bet if it was your car stolen you`d have a different tone and be eating them nice "ideal world words" you said above.

Kersh, I know you like cars and all but a death sentence is a bit much for steealing a car.

In your opinion its a bit much. Not in mine and many others.

ambro25

fletch wrote:

Assuming the car was stolen etc... then I have to say good riddance

I would tend to agree (with the majority etc.) but...

To the risk of incensing the PC brigade, it's not so much that I'm glad the knacker bought the proverbial farm (I'm not really... death is too much here, since no other life was taken away pointlessly), it's more the fact that this was probably someone's pride and joy, who'll probably get marginally sh@fted by the insurance company and might not be able to replace like for like, etc, etc.

If it had been my MX-5, say, I'd have been inconsolable (KIA knacker or not), because I'd probably never be able to replace exaclty like for like: I'd have to find 'the right one' in the UK, re-import it, would I get VRT exemption on it like I did with the current, etc., wouldn't know about the care and attention lavished on it since mile 14,000, etc..

I guess my point/rant is, to onlookers, it's only a stolen car, but I feel for the ex-owner (again, to the risk of shocking most... like I care anyway! )

peasant

Kersh, I know you like cars and all but a death sentence is a bit much for steealing a car.

In fairness now, this young fella didn't get killed because he STOLE the car ...

He decided to leave this world, executing a self imposed death sentence.
The very same death sentence we all stare in the face when driving recklessly.

That he did so in a stolen car is just coincidental.

Appels and pears and so on ...

I wouldn't wish death on anyone for stealing a car ...seeing proper justice done on the other hand would be nice for a change, though.

With dangerous driving on the other hand you can only hope that no-one else gets hurt ...and the youngfella seems to have failed on that one as well, critically injuring a passenger.

Still he didn't DESRVE to die ...he deserved to be locked up ...probably a long time and a few similar offences ago ...so ...why didn't anyone??

HelterSkelter

Stekelly wrote:

aah but you see that was my point, it wont get that far. i turned out the way I did ( properly , for the record) because of the way my parents brought me up.

Aaahh, you are not living in the real world son.

I know a family and one of the kids is a scumbag. The rest of the siblings are the nicest people you could ever meet. As far as I can see the parents brought the kids up the best way possible, yet one of them turned out like that.

Oriel

I'd rather he was dead than alive.

HelterSkelter

phoenix_nights wrote:

Well thats it for me on this forum.

When people celebrate and joke over the death of a person for stealing a car i know its time to leave.

The lack of empathy is bordering on narcissism here.

Aaah just ignore them buddy. Lots of nerdy kids hang around here sitting behind expensive computers paid for by daddy's company expensise account. No grip on reality at all.

spurious

Any loss of a life is to be regretted. No one 'deserves' to die in a motor accident.

Máire who was killed the other week in the bus incident quite possibly worked with this young man and/or some of his passengers (if they are from town).

It's a small world.

mike65

I'm going to have the last word on this, the death of a 'twoker' is hard to shed tears over. His family are proberly crushed by this but so would those of his victims had to lived long enough to kill.

My own prefered punishment would be to bannish such idiots to an island off the west coast populated with nothing except wrecked cars. And no visitors.

Mike.

colm_mcm

If a serial burglar fell through a glass ceiling and killed himself, nobody would bat an eyelid.

Do we have to feel sorry for joyriders because they are going through a stage in life where they have nothing else to do? I think it's shocking that some people tolerate this. a kid in a stolen car is just as dangerous as a gun wielding maniac. and if one of these guys happens to die whilst endangering other peoples lives, and if it acts as a deterrant against joyriding to a few people, then I can't honestly say that it was a bad thing.

MrPudding

Nuttzy wrote:

In your opinion its a bit much. Not in mine and many others.

I have already said in this post I will lose no sleep over this guy's death. I am also of the opinion, as also stated in this thread, that in cases like this I hope that the persons involved did not have time to breed before doing us a favour and removing themselves from our roads for good. So, it is safe to say I am not really bothered by joyriders or anyother scumbag for that matter dieing in the commision of their crime.

This is very different from saying that someone should die simply because they stole a car. Kersh, I am sorry, I read too much into what you said I though you were actually saying they should all be killed / excuted.

Nuttzy, it would be idiotic to kill people for stealing cars. Youy comment seems to suggest that their should be death by lethal injection for stealing a car. Is that is what you are saying?

MrP

mike65

Closed.

Mike.