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What great artists do you hate?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭garred


    Never really liked Thin Lizzy, ColdPlay, Pink Floyd. Don't hate them just switch to another station whenever they come on the radio.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭Cooee


    Hate:

    All death/heavy/goth metal sh*&t - Metallica/Slayer/Sabbath/Pantera all of it! Tuneless, moronic warbling.
    Mariah/Whitney/Celine/Christina/Britney/Westlife/BOyzone

    Then again what is great????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Cooee wrote:
    Mariah/Whitney/Celine/Christina/Britney/Westlife/BOyzone

    Then again what is great????

    Certainly not the above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Oflynna


    david bowie

    i even hate the looks of him, spooky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭misty floyd


    pink floyd

    i hve serious doubts about people who dont like the beatles ;)

    If you don't like the beatles, you don't like music! Ok, a little over the top but I can't understand how anyone could say the beatles. I'm gonna say 'The Who' , 'Madonna' , 'Robbie Williams' , 'Thin Lizzy' and 'Queen' (Good singles but bad albums imo)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,767 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Cant stand Kanye West/ Britney/ Emimem/ Robbie Williams

    Not a lover of Beastie Boys, Elvis Costello or Rory Gallagher.

    Have to say I like Queen


  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭tosh_thedude


    U2 :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭FillSpectre


    If you don't like the beatles, you don't like music! Ok, a little over the top but I can't understand how anyone could say the beatles. I'm gonna say 'The Who' , 'Madonna' , 'Robbie Williams' , 'Thin Lizzy' and 'Queen' (Good singles but bad albums imo)

    The Beatles are not as important as people actually think. First off they were basically a covers band and a rip off band at the start. They continued as a pop band changing style a bit. Their influence is important but over played and over credited makes people dislike the music. I always thought the Rolling Stones were better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭Rollo Tamasi


    U2 (it's already been said)
    UB40 (red red wiiiinnnneeeeers)
    The Eagles (i ****in' hate the eagles dude)
    Coldplay (you wanna how i know you're gay....cuz you listen to coldplay)
    Jon Bon Jovi (oh please)
    Artic Monkeys (the 8th wonder of the world...)
    Dr.Dre (there are much better hiphop producers out there)
    David Gray (3 chord wonder)
    Guns N Roses (gay smelly men)
    Kangay West (up his arse)
    The Beatles (cheese)
    Eminem (novelty item of the 90's)
    Red Hot Chilli Peppers (go back to the late 80's with your wacka wacka guitar)
    50Cent (**** off and die)
    Christina Agulaira (she is a slappbag who sings like a whale giving birth through her blow hole)


  • Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭ball ox


    I always thought the Rolling Stones were better.

    are you for real???!!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Rustar


    jazoo wrote:
    good call forgot about old big nose

    And his even bigger-nosed pal, Bette Midler!

    There are many artists with absolutely incredible voices that I can't stand....Michael McDonald and George Michael come to mind....

    And those of you dissing Bowie and the Beatles....prepare for battle! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭FillSpectre


    ball ox wrote:
    are you for real???!!!!!
    No I made up a coherant arguement based on nothing.:rolleyes:

    It is how I feel. Look at the two bands and I think you will see the Beatles were less original especially starting off. Other shocking stuff Madona didn't invent vogueing, the moonwalk existed before Micheal Jackson and punk is american not invented by the Sex Pistols. :D

    If they were so good why wasn't their solo music better?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Oflynna


    hey rustar, at least i can understand that someone likes bowie, he just doesn't do it for me, and i quite like the beatles.

    but i have found some of my favourite musicians here on this thread - david gray and damien dempsey, and i am prepared to go into battle for them :)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Yeah, some of the choices here are shocking, but I guess everybody's entitled to their opinions.

    I don't hate the Beatles, but I do think that they were way overrated. They had some amazing songs (my favourite is A Day In The Life) but a lot of their early stuff is very blah (I Want To Hold Your Hand, She Loves You, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah) and some of their classics drive me insane with their endlessness like Hey Jude and Yesterday. In MY opinion the Rolling Stones were (slightly) better. The likes of The Kinks or The Who were far superior to both. But it is just my opinion, and that's the beauty of music - something out there for everybody.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭oRlyYaRly


    The Beatles
    50 Cent
    Eminem
    The Rolling Stones

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  • Registered Users Posts: 30,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Status ****in' Quo!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭nohshow


    The Beatles are not as important as people actually think. First off they were basically a covers band and a rip off band at the start. They continued as a pop band changing style a bit. Their influence is important but over played and over credited makes people dislike the music. I always thought the Rolling Stones were better.


    Looks like a red rag. Here comes the bull:

    The Beatles, like practically all bands of their era, were a covers band. They played pubs and clubs covering Presley, Perkins, Berry, the works. Then they got a recording contract. They recorded their favourite covers and added (uniquely) some songs of their own, timid attempts not to rock too many boats (Please Please Me, Love Me Do, et al). Recording schedules and a requirement to record what they played live later had them including covers up until Beatles For Sale. None of their own singles were ever covers.

    The Beatles, Mr Spectre, wrote for other bands as well. They made self-written music credible for Brit bands that didn't want to seem like American copies. They wrote at least one song for the Rolling Stones and have been covered by musicians from practically every musical genre, including soul, country, swing, jazz and funk. Does a day pass without some busker on Grafton Street having a crack at Norwegian Wood or Yesterday?

    Ultimately, the Beatles re-directed the flood of trans-atlantic music and turned it back on itself. They created a pop genre that has survived to this day and they are certainly the most quoted musicians of all time, musically, verbally and lyrically (most recently by Lily Allan who, in Smile, got by "with a little help from my friends", but other songs, some politicians and just about every music crit of the last half-century can't go a couple of paragraphs without referring to them). Their influence may even extend far into the deeper reaches of your own unconscious mind, FillS.

    Although Phil Specter almost destroyed their reputation with their final-released album, their unique legacy ranges from Yellow Submarine to Revolution Number 9, with some stunningly detailed and meticulously crafted material in between, and that's some damned scope.

    No bull.

    Overrated greats: Madonna, Elvis (Presley, not Costello), Jim Carrey (not a musician, I know, but he really gets on my wick)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭FillSpectre


    nohshow wrote:
    Looks like a red rag. Here comes the bull:

    The Beatles, like practically all bands of their era, were a covers band.
    I don't beleive that and it goes against what I know. The UK certainly had a high number of cover bands but the Beatles ripped people off and did covers for a long time. Other British bands of the time were creating their own music.
    nohshow wrote:
    Overrated greats: Madonna, Elvis (Presley, not Costello), Jim Carrey (not a musician, I know, but he really gets on my wick)

    Elvis by far was more important for being the first. Madonna is overrated but actually very important for no other reason then surviving the 80s unlike her peers (Prince, M Jackson and G Micheal). There are very few pop acts that stayed hot in the charts for so long.

    The Beatles invented nothing but did latch on like Madonna to the next movement. It doesn't matter what you think I, after reading and examining, do not see how the Beatles actually changed anything. The never appaer to do anything new but unkowing people think they did. THe only thing the Beatles did was bring it to a popular audience. Overrated and some good pop tunes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Fill, I agree with ya. The Stones were WAY better than The Beatles!!! I do like The Beatles and there are flashes of genius in their stuff from Revolver onwards (maybe Rubber Soul) but their early stuff? Your granny'd like it, ffs! There was an episode of The Simpsons where Bart and Milhouse break into Flanders' house and discover a collection of Beatles paraphernalia. When Milhouse asks "who are The Beatles?", Bart replies (I'm paraphrasing here): "They're on Maggie's baby records." Spot on as ever! Yellow Submarine - :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭nohshow


    Dudess wrote:
    ... but their early stuff? Your granny'd like it, ffs!

    Almost guaranteed. Your granny was probably one of the millions who made them so popular, so famous and such a record-breaking act.

    Fill, you say you've been 'reading and examining' the subject. I think you've missed a few references. But fair enough, you don't believe. Your belief structure won't alter the data one iota. The Stones began by doing covers as well (Chuck Berry was high on their playlist). Cliff and the Shadows didn't write for themselves in the beginning and even then only sporadically. Their early contemporaries often appraoched them for new songs (usually through Brian).

    Did the Beatles rip people off? Please supply more evidence. Other bands were certainly creating their own music after the 1962/3 watershed. Who made it that much more possible for them to do so?
    Elvis by far was more important for being the first.

    The first what? White man to get black music on the air? Give the man a whitehood (Sir Paul got a Knighthood!). But on that criteria alone, you have to acknowledge the Beatles' vast list of firsts and grant them their place off this list, from first UK band with a Number One record from a self-penned song to first popular musical artists of the 20th century to be recognised by the establishment (with MBEs, no less).

    Naturally, I stand by those I've dissed, just as you will. I aim to change your mind, but you never will change mine - or will you??? I'm fickle like that.
    Dudess wrote:
    Spot on as ever! Yellow Submarine

    And what about Maxwell's Silver Hammer and Octopuss' Garden and Your Mother Should Know and When I'm Sixty-Four --- and A Day In The Life and Happiness is a Warm Gun and Blackbird and For No One and In My Life ... ? whaddaya know, they can be funny as well as serious.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    I hated The Smiths and this has carried over to Morrisey. I never liked Nirvana either and I just don't get the whole Arctic Monkeys thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 409 ✭✭Brendygg


    Babyshambles and The libertines mainly because of that idoit pete doherty,Rhcp dont no why people like them,Greenday another overrated band,Guns and Roses sad.Eric Clapton and The eagles are boring too.How cud i forget Metallica utter tripe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Two On Glue


    definitly the artic monkeys for me. of course u2 aswell. i find them very dull. coldplay, they are even worse, they are like a wannabe u2 band!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    nohshow wrote:
    Almost guaranteed. Your granny was probably one of the millions who made them so popular, so famous and such a record-breaking act.

    I mean if you played it for her now. She'd love how middle-of-the-road those early Beatles songs are. My gran would have been in her mid-50s when The Beatles first emerged. She would have had no interest in pop music.
    nohshow wrote:
    whaddaya know, they can be funny as well as serious.

    Doesn't take away from the fact that I think Yellow Submarine is a crap song. However, as I said, I do like a lot of The Beatles' stuff. One song you mentioned - Happiness is a Warm Gun - breathtaking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Amazing so much common ground amongst so many people about great artists they hate - truely amazing some of the comments and nominees - Bob Dylan, Pink Floyd, Beatles, David Bowie, U2 etc .

    Once upon a time, being great meant a lot not just sales, or being a VOX POP and yet some of these great artists have put words to music to create some of the most evocative, mind challenging, spine tingling commentary ever written within popular culture and in many cases inspired by personal circumstances/events.

    Great artists transcend time, cultures and media but not everyone gets it.

    Some references to Tweenies, I don't give a damn, sounds like to me most of ye were never born on this planet!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭odhran


    I think they've all already been said, but U2, Greenday, Coldplay, Oasis and Red Hot Chili Peppers (especially U2, but especially Oasis :) )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Rustar


    nohshow wrote:
    Almost guaranteed. Your granny was probably one of the millions who made them so popular, so famous and such a record-breaking act.

    Did the Beatles rip people off? Please supply more evidence. Other bands were certainly creating their own music after the 1962/3 watershed. Who made it that much more possible for them to do so?

    The first what? White man to get black music on the air? Give the man a whitehood (Sir Paul got a Knighthood!). But on that criteria alone, you have to acknowledge the Beatles' vast list of firsts and grant them their place off this list, from first UK band with a Number One record from a self-penned song to first popular musical artists of the 20th century to be recognised by the establishment (with MBEs, no less).

    You guys are getting warm, but let me supply you with the real answer.
    The Beatles were creative, yes, and drew heavily from influences around them at the time. But the real reason that the Beatles were the Beatles is:

    In 1945 a phenomenon known as the "baby boom" happened at the end of the war. In 1963, the largest mass of record-buying 18-year-olds that had ever existed on the planet (and probably since) were alive. The Beatles (and to a slightly smaller extent Elvis) were perfectly positioned to take advantage of this.

    And now you know......the rest of the story. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭garred


    Amazing so much common ground amongst so many people about great artists they hate - truely amazing some of the comments and nominees - Bob Dylan, Pink Floyd, Beatles, David Bowie, U2 etc .

    Once upon a time, being great meant a lot not just sales, or being a VOX POP and yet some of these great artists have put words to music to create some of the most evocative, mind challenging, spine tingling commentary ever written within popular culture and in many cases inspired by personal circumstances/events.

    Great artists transcend time, cultures and media but not everyone gets it.

    Some references to Tweenies, I don't give a damn, sounds like to me most of ye were never born on this planet!
    I always find this amusing how some people won't let you have your own opinion on music. They may be great artists to you and others but not to everyone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,256 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Have to say, I don't think even half the artists mentioned in this thread would come even close to being considered 'greats'. To be judged as one of the greats you have to have been around for long enough to see can your music last beyond your initial fame... If The Artic Monkeys, Coldplay, Damien Dempsey et al are still producing music (or even remembered by many people) in ten years time, then you can cast judgement on them as a possible 'great', now, it's too early tbh.

    Myself, there's a few of the 'greats' I've tried to like but aside from a few songs can't really find myself really getting into them. Pink Floyd had a few cracking songs but I couldn't sit through a full album, ditto Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, Jimi Hendrix, Metallica (this list could go on and on and on).

    I can see how influential acts like Elvis, Lou Reed, Nick Cave, Elvis Costello, BB King, The Pixies, Chuck Berry etc. were but tbh, it's just not my thing.

    I'm not dissing any of these acts, they were all were great musicians (sex pistols aside - they were crap musicians) and hugely influential, it's just that the music they made just doesn't float my boat.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭MrJones


    Ive only gotten into bowie in the last 4/5 years and I have to say he's
    great. If you haven't listened to his music or generally dont know anything about him,or haven't heard any interviews with him then i could see how you would think he's spooky.
    fact is though that he's super cool and a great guy as well.
    His last 2 albums hours and reality are my favourites (at moment) :D
    Oflynna wrote:
    david bowie

    i even hate the looks of him, spooky.


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