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Remakes

  • 22-05-2006 2:40pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 17


    Is there anyone out there controlling these bloody remakes. I mean, "The Omen"..... all time classic gets an upgrade. If it aint broken dont fix it.. Please Please Please keep them away from "The Exorcist"... There will never be anything as shocking and as scary as Linda Blair... No one else could fill that roll... Reply with our agreements....

    Classics should never be f**** with!!! Am I Right or AM I RIGHT!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Oobie


    I would usually agree but I have to say I loved the remake of Dawn of the Dead. The original was good but the remake was amazing!

    I love The Omen - possibly my all time favourite movie and I don't know if I'm looking forward to the remake or scared that they'll destroy it!

    I think the remake of The Wicker Man will be tough to pull off. Isn't it going to be based in America?? They'll lose all the 70s creepiness that made it so good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Tullamac


    Definitely.... and its not Christopher Lee... Its a bloody woman...AND Nicholas Cage... Oh jesus cmon... "JUST PUT THE BUNNY DOWN..." It just will not be the same... Dawn of the Dead worked because HIs HOLINESS Romero was involved..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Tullamac wrote:
    Dawn of the Dead worked because HIs HOLINESS Romero was involved..
    Do you mean in the remake? :confused:

    I'm not 100% against the idea of remaking a film, but I'm just getting a bit fed up of the sheer volume of them, particularly from Asia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Tullamac


    I copmpletly agree... What they should have done is just release the asian movies and let us apreciate them as they are.... I just hope they stay away from some of the really good extreme ones, such as Audition and everything from that stable.... The poster tagline should say" IF YOU DONT LIKE IT... **** OFF.. NO ONE CARES" people should appreciate these classic movies in their proper formats and not remade with some bitch from the OC or Dawsons Creek..............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    I think its more about marketing than any thing else. people get more excited about xmen 3 over some film they havet heard of. Take that film `the wild` thats comming out, I know nothing about it and then there is the Wonder wonam film comming. Well straight off I know something about the latter and nothing about the other film. Remakes bring an air of familarity to a film and make it easier to market itl. It is all about making money and not about keeping people like KH happy. The real fan boys often get left out in the cold.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭garred


    I actually preferred a lot of the remakes that have come out over the last few years. I thought The Grudge and Ring were better than the originals. Also preferred TCM remake eventhough I dislike the film. Although there have been a few gooseberries none more so than The Fog (may be more of a reworking than a remake). Be prepared for a lot more:

    The Birds
    Creature From the Black Lagoon
    The Entity
    The Eye
    Near Dark
    One Missed Call
    Piranha


    Source:
    http://www.upcominghorrormovies.com/movies.php


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Tullamac


    How can you honestly say that the remakes of the ring and the grudge were better than the originals..........Jesus have you seen the originals.... what a misguided human you are.... You are probably one of these guys who hates watching a movie with subtitles so therefore its instantly crap.. Cmon man. This really gets my goat. Its ever so rare that a remake improves the orginal but the Ringu series and the grudge are most definitely better off left the way they are. GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Oobie


    The Ring remake doesn't even come close to the original!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭garred


    Tullamac wrote:
    How can you honestly say that the remakes of the ring and the grudge were better than the originals..........Jesus have you seen the originals.... what a misguided human you are.... You are probably one of these guys who hates watching a movie with subtitles so therefore its instantly crap.. Cmon man. This really gets my goat. Its ever so rare that a remake improves the orginal but the Ringu series and the grudge are most definitely better off left the way they are. GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You are probably one of these people who forces their opinions down the throat of other people, or deem them a "misguided human" because they don't agree with you.
    Yes I thought the remakes were better. Yes I watch subtitled films and liked a lot of them but thought others were crap.
    There are people out there who don't get wood when watching Asian films, me being one of them. Actually I find the same atmosphere/mood running through all of these films and the look of boredom from the cast. What is it about these scary kids and Asian horrors. I like some I hate some.
    Don't let it upset you.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have no problem with remakes. The vast majority of them are inferior to the originals but every once in a while you come across a decant one. If you don't want to watch something no one is going to force you.

    One of the best films of all time The Thing was a remake. Each film should be judged on it's own.

    Also, Romero had no involvement in the Dawn remake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    Tullamac wrote:
    How can you honestly say that the remakes of the ring and the grudge were better than the originals.......... GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Well I havent seen the origanal ring and im not posed to watching stuff with subtitles I have watch a lot of subtitles but If I can get an english dub I uasually prefer that. So if the first ring is a better film and I dont doubt that it is, I would still take the fact that its subed as a negitive right off before watching it. It would have to be a whole lot beter to make it worth my while having to read a film rather than watching it. That said I onece watched sholin scoccer with out any subs or english at all. Some times a good film can superseed the need for words.

    A good example of a film that Subs ruined for me was night watch. It seems like its a reall good film but the whole effort of having to real all the dialogue ( and there was a lot ) took away from the film and I never really got the jist of it all as it all moved so fast. But then I saw C tiger H dragon in the cinema subed and it dident bother me. I supose what im saying is subs are not for every one and an english remake can be better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,070 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    The Fog
    Dark Water
    The Ring
    The Grudge
    The Hills have eyes
    The Omen
    Dawn of the dead
    The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
    House on Haunted Hill
    When a Stranger Calls

    what am I missing ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,070 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Just found this list...

    REMAKES

    BLACK CHRISTMAS (TBA)
    DAY OF THE DEAD (2006)
    KING KONG (December 14, 2005)
    OMEN 666 (June 6, 2006)
    PULSE (March 3, 2006)
    RETURN TO SLEEPAWAY CAMP (TBA)
    SCANNERS (TBA)
    TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE: THE BEGINNING (October 6, 2006)
    THE BIRDS (TBA)
    THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI (2006)
    THE CRAZIES (TBA)
    THE EVIL DEAD (2006/7)
    THE FLY (2006)
    THE FOG (October 14, 2005)
    THE HILLS HAVE EYES (March 10, 2006)
    THE HITCHER (TBA)
    THE WICKER MAN (TBA)
    WHEN A STRANGER CALLS (February 3, 2006)

    uh oh....28 weeks later

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0463854/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    i'm glad they will never touch the real classics like , Frankenstein, bride of frankenstein and the hammer horrors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,070 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    6th wrote:
    i'm glad they will never touch the real classics like , Frankenstein, bride of frankenstein and the hammer horrors.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109836/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Oh Christ now i look bad! ;)

    How could i forget that amazingly bad remake!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Tusky wrote:
    First I'd heard of that :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,070 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    First I'd heard of that :eek:

    Same here...doesnt sound good!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    OMG an evil dead remake, hasent this been done already and called evil dead 2 that was more of a remake than a sequal, and no remake will ever tough it. Unless rami and camble do it again witch I doubt.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,085 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    I heard a bit about the remake of Evil Dead, Raimi was supposed to have said he'd love to see what someone could make of his original film having seen what they did with Dawn Of The Dead.

    That said, there's also supposed to be an Evil Dead 4 in the works (allegedly starring Campbell, thank God; it's just not Evil Dead if The Chin isn't involved...).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    Dam straight but camble must be getting on in the years now and its a gruling shoot for a man of his age. I know he dident like getting beat up on a regular basis on the set of the origonals, but how it made us all laugh. It was worth every bruise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Tullamac


    OMG, there is no way they can even think of touching the evil dead without Brucie and Sam. Its like remaking KING KONG without kong. Those films were absoloute classics. To be honest I am a bit unnerved about the possibility of a remake. The original was raw and the effects were tough to do for Raimi as he had no money. But its perfect in its original setting. I am still totally and utterly against remakes of any kind. Next, you will be telling me that there will be a remake of the Exorcist with one of the ****in Olsen twins as Regan & Harrison Ford as Merrin........................ha ha ha............ sorry about that. Had to stop laughing there..................ha ha ha ha ha.:D :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Speaking of the Olsen twins, there is infact rumours of those two starring in a remake of A Tale Of Two Sisters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Speaking of the Olsen twins, there is infact rumours of those two starring in a remake of A Tale Of Two Sisters.
    I know :(
    Actually I think :mad: is more appropriate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Oobie


    Aren't the Olsen twins too old for this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    I'm not sure how old they are, or how old the sisters in the original were....but one was definately older than the other in that film.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Tullamac


    I Dont Care About Their Age..... I Would Still Do Both!!!! Ha Ha H A


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    What a fantastic contribution there, Tullamac.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Looks like Night of the Living Dead and Day of The Dead are getting the remake treatment as well. I can't find Night of the Living Dead on imdb (except a 1990 remake which I didn't know about!), but here's the news on Day:
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489018/

    Afaik, they have nothing to do with Zack Snyder's Dawn, which is a shame. I'd love to see him try his hand at the others.

    It might well confuse a lot of people. We have the original trilogy, the 2004 Dawn and then Land. Now there's another two remakes plus apparently a sequel for Land in the works.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,085 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    The 1990 remake of NOTLD was done by Romero and is a damn fine remake of the original; part of the reason for doing it was because they never copyrighted the original film, meaning that they couldn't make any money from licensing it. It's worth buying, IMO.

    Not sure why we need another remake of it, though. Especially if Snyder's not involved in the project. (There again, I don't particularly want to see a sequel to Land... either, as I thought it was a weak film overall).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    (except a 1990 remake which I didn't know about!),

    For shame!! Thats an excellent film, but was not done by Romero as Flysh said, but by Savini. It stars Tony Todd, and I remember seeing it for the first time, at about 3am, when I was about 12. Not quite as gruesome as Day of the Dead or the new Dawn but some nice gore in there nonetheless.

    Dunno about a remake of NOTLD, it was already redone in 1990 so I don't really feel it needs updating already. That said though, I love zombie movies and I would be lying if I said I would't be hugely anticipating it!

    Day of the Dead was great, but a little slow paced and dated in parts. Gore effects are fantastic though, very gruesome! A remake would be very nice in my opinion. As for Land of the Dead, personally I loved it, and will definately be lookin forward to the sequel the most out of any of the zombie movies currently lined up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,070 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Wasnt there a remake of day only a year ago ? As far as I remember it was made by some independant company on a shoe string budget and it looked absolutely terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Fysh wrote:
    The 1990 remake of NOTLD was done by Romero
    HavoK wrote:
    For shame!! Thats an excellent film, but was not done by Romero as Flysh

    So which is it guys? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    http://imdb.com/title/tt0100258/

    Definately Savini :)

    But seriously Necro, how could you not have seen it! I suggest you watch it pronto...

    Tusky - I don't think there was a remake of Day of the Dead but I did come across this: Day of the Dead 2! Unsurprisingly its apparently muck.

    But then again there are literally dozens of cheap independant zombie films out there, so outside of big releases its pretty damn hard to keep up with them really. That said, if you haven't already seen Bone Sickness, its superb and one of the best "low budget" zombie jobs I've seen. Real throw back to 80's Fulci style, cheap but very gory with all prosthetics.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    HavoK wrote:
    But seriously Necro, how could you not have seen it! I suggest you watch it pronto...
    I really don't know, and I thought I was pretty well up on all things zombies :(
    Will definately pick it up.


    Oh wow, just found this on imdb. The Night Of The Living Dead remake (the latest remake) is gonna be in 3D!
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489244/


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think you'll that Fysh was correct, Romero was responsiable for the NOTLD remake. He was going to direct the film himself but decided to do Two Evil Eyes instead.
    He was one of the producers and was responsiable for Savini getting the directing job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Oh wow, just found this on imdb. The Night Of The Living Dead remake (the latest remake) is gonna be in 3D!
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489244/

    That is most likely going to suck major balls.

    And my mistake about the notld


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    I think you'll that Fysh was correct, Romero was responsiable for the NOTLD remake. He was going to direct the film himself but decided to do Two Evil Eyes instead.
    He was one of the producers and was responsiable for Savini getting the directing job.

    Romero wrote the screenplay based on his original 1968 version and Savini directed it.

    There is some amazing gore in the film, the DVD edition available now is heavily censored.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Lodgepole wrote:
    There is some amazing gore in the film, the DVD edition available now is heavily censored.

    I heard that but I've never seen an alternative version available, is there one? Film is still nice and violent as is, but as I said, I heard we were still being deprived of the whole shebang :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    HavoK wrote:
    I heard that but I've never seen an alternative version available, is there one? Film is still nice and violent as is, but as I said, I heard we were still being deprived of the whole shebang :)
    Nowhere on DVD although some of it is in the DVD extras. The old video release of it was uncut, but that version never made it to DVD. Some day we may see a definitive DVD release. It's a damn good picture too.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,085 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Lodgepole wrote:
    Nowhere on DVD although some of it is in the DVD extras. The old video release of it was uncut, but that version never made it to DVD. Some day we may see a definitive DVD release. It's a damn good picture too.

    There's a documentary on the DVD about the gore used in the headshots, and I remember being amused by it because it starts out showing you a montage of loads of very gory headshots, and then various people discussing why they weren't allowed to release the film with the headshots left intact as they were. Sheer class :)

    (Want to watch this again now, I think I'll dig out the DVD tonight...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    The Grudge was on last night on the movie channel, caught the last 45 minutes or so....man it was awful. I've never seen Ju-on, but it surely isn't that bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    The Grudge was on last night on the movie channel, caught the last 45 minutes or so....man it was awful. I've never seen Ju-on, but it surely isn't that bad.

    The grudge was the only film that actually made me feel "Frightened" - its corny and badly executed in spots alright but to be honest I have no problem saying it was the scariest film I've ever seen, despite what everyone else seems to think.

    Haven't seen Ju-On myself, but if its anything like the Ring VS the Ring remake, its probably twice as good a film with half the scare factor


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TCamen


    I really don't get all the opposition to remakes before they're even out for people to see them! Generally, I'll go see any new horrors, even if they're remakes. From what's been released so far, I like most of them, though there's only three that stand out for me as superior to the originals - The Hills Have Eyes, Texas Chainsaw Massacre & Amityville Horror. The originals are movies I just never liked, so I was pleased to sit and watch the updates that actually vastly improved the watchability of the source material.

    The most recent remakes, 'The Omen' and 'When A Stranger Calls' -- I liked both of them, particularly WASC, which was FAR better than I was expecting after all the reviews. I mean it wasn't a great film by any stretch, but I enjoyed it quite a bit.

    Ju-On: The Grudge is better than the US remake, however, like with Ringu/The Ring - I like both for their different cultural takes on the material. Like with Ju-On, there's a lot more mysticism that you would except from a J-horror, whereas the Hollywood version is a bit more straightforward.

    I'd recommend going to see Ju-On: The Grudge 2 next month (ignore the AWFUL AWFUL cheap, nasty trailer that's currently playing though - it makes it look rubbish!). I watched it on DVD and found it very unnerving and scary in parts - sometimes it's worse to know what the ghosts look like ;)

    I'm interested in seeing The Grudge 2 (US) in October, 'cos even though I haven't spoiled too much of the plot, it sounds like a complete departure from Ju-On 2, which at least points to more original film than a remake!

    I'm dying to see Pulse (US)! Love Kristen Bell :D Funny thing about this one, is that I saw the original 'Pulse' in Virgin a few months ago and was gonna get it, but it was over-priced, so I held off. Now I'll probably just wait and watch the US one first - shame it's been delayed!

    I've seen the originals of 'One Missed Call' (decent enough film, though somewhat standard J-horror) and 'A Tale of Two Sisters', which for me, is probably the freakiest & scariest of the lot. I'm interested to see what they manage to do with it in Hollywood. I love 'Black Christmas', so again, I'm keen to see what the remake is like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    ....can't believe I only saw this tonight, what a great film! Straight after I went onto IMDB to figure out what other film I knew Rutger Hauer from (he was terrific in this) only to see that this is also getting the remake treatment.

    I didn't start moaning when I saw that, not a huge surprise, but I was however shocked to see that Sean Bean has been cast as the hitcher. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    ....can't believe I only saw this tonight, what a great film! Straight after I went onto IMDB to figure out what other film I knew Rutger Hauer from (he was terrific in this) only to see that this is also getting the remake treatment.

    I didn't start moaning when I saw that, not a huge surprise, but I was however shocked to see that Sean Bean has been cast as the hitcher. :(

    Have you seen the Hitcher 2?

    It's terrible.....Jake Busey as the hitcher is pretty cool but the rest of the cast is terrible and the movie intself, whilst not really visually bad, comes across as.....beyond cheap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    No but I saw it on IMDB...the reviews are enough not to bother with it! And really....why on earth would you pick up another hitcher after what you went through in the first film?? Madness!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    The Wicker Man is my favourite film of all time, bar none. The thought of a Nicolas Cage inspired remake set in America of all places terrifies me more than any film.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Wicker Man is my favourite film of all time, bar none. The thought of a Nicolas Cage inspired remake set in America of all places terrifies me more than any film.

    Neil LaBaute has said that a sequel is currently in pre-production.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    Tullamac wrote:
    I Please Please Please keep them away from "The Exorcist"... There will never be anything as shocking and as scary as Linda Blair.!

    Mary harney?
    "bertie sucks C*** in hell" type of thing


    Actually when they remade the haunting that did it for me :(.. brutal

    As for the wicker Man.. arent they making a stage musical version of that. Mind you the original turned into a musical at one stage.


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