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Spurs Transfer Rumours And General Chat
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Or giussepe Rossi or Aaron Ramsey or David Gray?
Look I can fully understand people having a view that signing 16 and 17 year olds is wrong but please dont be naive enough (or biased enough) to think it only happens at spurs.
Totally agree
Arsenal do it constantly as do Liverpool and Chelsea.
How many Spanish youngsters have the big 4 poached over the past 4 or 5 years?
People need to get down off their high horses every big club does it.Bad if were getting torn apart by ten men squads;)
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Cardiff are willing to sell Aaron Ramsey. So thats a different kettle of fish altogether. I actually don't know much about the Rossi situation, and I don't know who David Gray is, nor am I trying to say Spurs are the only club at it, its just been particularly bad from Spurs as far as I can see.
At most we're guilty of nicking two or three players from clubs who don't want to lose their brightest young talents.
Death or Glory is pissed off because we took Lennon and Matthew Rose off Leeds (and the better half of their previous managerial team, plus maybe Willem Korsten). In Lennon's case he took a pay cut to come to Spurs, and Leeds had to sell him because they couldn't afford to pay his wages. Don't believe me? believe Kevin Blackwell then:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/5029096.stm
Wayne Routledge was really unlucky, picking up an injury right at the start of his time at Spurs, and by the time he'd regained fitness Lennon was a first team fixture and we were pushing for 4th place. Not exactly the perfect time to try and ease a player back, was it? He never really recovered from that.as far as I can see.
That's the point. Spurs are getting stick for purchasing young players from other sides while United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and others poach from across the globe. Did Barcelona want to lose Cesc Fabregas, Fran Merida, Gerard Pique? Jeez, United have even managed to get Barca to buy Pique back! How's that for poaching players!
10 of the 11 Chelsea players that started their FA Youth Cup Final 2nd leg tie were signed from other clubs. Liverpool's reserves who won the national league were made up almost entirely of foreign players.English clubs’ pillaging of overseas youth systems causes the greatest resentment abroad. The French are furious about Manchester United courting two of their best under16s, Darnel Situ and Jeremy Helen, of Lens and Rennes respectively. Helen’s mother said: “Jeremy is a stable boy and I cannot see any difference between living in Rennes or Manchester if you have a good entourage. My son and I have talked with Alex Ferguson. Inter Milan, Newcastle, Arsenal, Real Madrid and Everton also contacted him. Money will not make his choice. To him, Manchester United offers the best career path.”
In Holland, there is anger about two starlets, Jeffrey Bruna and Jordy Brouwer, going to Chelsea and Liverpool. Ten players starting for Chelsea in the FA Youth Cup final second leg were signed from elsewhere, for a total of around £6m. Liverpool have just won the national Reserve League using a squad almost exclusively staffed by foreign under-21s. Their coach, Gary Ablett, noted that when he was a youth player at Anfield his peers were such as Paul Jewell and Jim Magilton, but added: “Football has changed a lot since then and the world has become a much smaller place. In the past, Liverpool would have looked to bring in youth players with potential from clubs down the English league, but these days the market is such that if we go in for a player from a lower division club, that club asks for ridiculous money. That’s why we’ve looked to recruit more from the continent . . . and that’s the direction we’ll continue to head in.”
Barcelona have just paid Manchester United £6m for Gerard Pique, a player from their own youth system pinched by United when he was 17. They lost Fabregas similarly and two more players they developed, Liverpool’s Daniel Pacheco and Arsenal’s Fran Merida, could make Premier League debuts next season.
In the case of Merida, a Fabregas clone loaned to Real Sociedad last season, the player (and effectively Arsenal) was forced to pay £2m after Barcelona won a compensation wrangle.
La Liga clubs lose teenagers to England because Spain does not allow players to sign professional contracts until they are 18. “The law is a little behind. You hear of stories about a kid who is too young to have a labour contract so a job is offered to his father [by a foreign club],” said Soriano. “We need laws to protect against that because it’s not good for the individual, and it’s a disincentive for clubs to invest in youth. Among the big clubs in Europe we’re becoming more respectful of each other, but some clubs don’t follow the rules. And sometimes this industry behaves like it’s the beginning of the 20th century when we’re in the 21st century.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4039977.ece
So for the sake of consistency, can you all pop into the other superthreads and berate those teams for their transfer policies? Or is it ok as long as the players are foreign types?
For the record, our reserve team (under Clive Allen) won the southern reserve league the season before this one just finished with a team almost exclusively made up of homegrown players, and our academy sides have won a couple of international tournaments in the last year:
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/proudofthelads130508.html
The most recent player to step up from our youth set up is Jamie O'Hara (who ironically was in Arsenal's academy before joining ours) and but for a series of injuries Terry Dixon was expected to do the same. The club are trying to get planning permission for a new training facility and academy in Enfield but have been knocked back a number of times. We ARE investing in our youth set up, we just haven't done as well as other sides (many of whom HAVE to rely on their youth set up due to lack of money).0 -
therecklessone wrote: »I'm not believing it until it's on the Spurs site.
I'm almost believing it!subject to a medical and agreeing personal terms.0 -
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therecklessone wrote: »Spurs agree deal with Pompey for Peter Crouch.
Medical and player contract should be formalities.
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/crouchdealagreed270709.html
Rumoured fee is £10m.
What a waste of £10m, Arry's buying up his old players out of Portsmouth
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How utterly underwhelming I hope I end up eating my words but I can't see him being much better than what we currently have.
He won't score more than Bent, but with Defoe and Keane at the club we need someone who can partner them both, and Crouch looks the better option on that front. Pavlyuchenko still needs to settle, but might end up leaving as well.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/27/peter-crouch-transfer-tottenham-portsmouthTottenham sealed a deal for Crouch after day of intense negotiations with Portsmouth. The fee Spurs will pay for Crouch is significantly less than the £12m which Portsmouth accepted this month from Sunderland. Tottenham, aware of Pompey's precarious finances, had sought to drive down the price. Although Harry Redknapp, the Tottenham manager, denied on Sunday claims by his Portsmouth counterpart, Paul Hart, that a fee had been agreed, it always looked a matter of when rather than if he would sign Crouch.
Portsmouth are still involved in prolonged negotiations with Sulamain al-Fahim regarding the Emirates-based businessman's buy-out of the club, a process related to its difficult financial predicament which includes an outstanding loan of at least £30m to the South African bank Standard Bank that needs servicing by August. This explains Redknapp's bullish stance regarding the deal for Crouch, with the manager – who has worked with the striker at Southampton and Portsmouth – feeling comfortable enough to describe Portsmouth's proposed £12m fee as too much for a player aged 28.
Sunderland agreed to pay that but once it became clear Crouch had no desire to move to the north-east the club withdrew its offer and so weakened Portsmouth's negotiating position.
Portsmouth confirmed last night that Crouch's departure was needed to help the club meet its debt repayment obligations. "His sale was necessitated by the club's commitment to repay scheduled debts while we are in the transitional period of completing the takeover," the club said in a statement. "We will now be looking to add fresh faces to the first-team squad as soon as possible."
Yet again we catch a club with their pants down and save a few £m, what goes around comes around though...0 -
Snake Plisken wrote: »What a waste of £10m, Arry's buying up his old players out of Portsmouth
Crouch was good enough to be a squad player at Liverpool. He just wasn't happy with that role. He's definitely good enough for Spurs' squad. Whether he gets the game time he wants remains to be seen. You have 4 (5 if you include Bent) expensive strikers now.0 -
eh........Crouch+£3 million Vs. Darren Bent?
Am I missing something here? Seems a complete no brainer
Not only is Crouch a much better player to Bent he will offer us something completely different. He will be worth his height in gold both when we are chasing games and when we are holding onto a lead and will prove a great partner for Defoe or Keane.
I get that it is underwhelming as he doesnt come from the Spanish league or have a five syllable surname but if you look at it objectively this is good business for the club and a step in the right direction.0 -
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