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  • 25-05-2006 1:04pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭


    Have a cz .22wmr thinking of getting a cz .22 the licence reads .22 bolt action brno thats what the dealer put down on the recipt

    if i were to sell the wmr and buy a lr what would i have to do just get the serial no changed or a whole new licence

    what's the cheapest ammo you can buy for .22lr


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    There's never any hassle (that Ive heard of) changing a 22lr to a 22wmr.


  • Registered Users Posts: 324 ✭✭macnas


    €26 for 500 Winchester Expert is the cheapest I've seen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 246 ✭✭TomBeckett


    Have a cz .22wmr thinking of getting a cz .22 the licence reads .22 bolt action brno thats what the dealer put down on the recipt

    if i were to sell the wmr and buy a lr what would i have to do just get the serial no changed or a whole new licence

    what's the cheapest ammo you can buy for .22lr

    Sorry but i am a little lost..
    You said that you have a .22wmr and you are going to trade it and buy a .22lr Why??:confused:

    You are going back down the ladder the .22wmr is a far better round than a .22lr!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    Define "better".


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    I think the OP wants cheaper ammo


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭jaycee


    what's the cheapest ammo you can buy for .22lr

    It kinda depends what you want to use it for..

    For plinking at cans .. you can buy bulk .22lr quite cheap ,however ..
    If you want to do some decent target shooting I'd recommend Lapua Club..

    That will set you back about €5.00 per 50 box.. and is good consistant stuff.

    From there you can go to more expensive choices within the Lapua range , Master -M , Midas ...etc. You are paying for quality control really.

    Furthermore , many .22's "Prefer" one type of ammo to another , so it's best to experiment a little with different brands and weights.

    The whole point of a rifle is it's accuracy , if you havent got that it's just making noise. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    And for the top levels of accuracy in .22lr, you're looking at batch testing ammo on ISSF-style or rimfire benchrest rifles; which means taking your rifle to Germany or England or Norway and going to the SK/RWS/Eley/Lapua factory and running a hundred or two rounds through the rifle from various batches, then checking for the smallest and most consistent group size and buying ten thousand or more rounds from that batch. Realistically, you're looking then at a 12mm group size at 50m to be competitive, which is about 0.4 MOA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Sparks wrote:
    And for the top levels of accuracy in .22lr...
    The serious fullbore people do something similar, either purchasing ammunition from specialist manufacturers, or (more usually) using their own meticulously assembled handloads. Some even go as far as bring a portable re-loading outfit with them, so that loads can be specifically tailored to changing range conditions on the day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Umiq88


    My reason for changing was ammo costs really and sub-sonic ammo the .22wmr does a great job but i only shoot rabbits and never shoot past 75-80 yards.

    I like to shoot targets and plink and stuff and at €12 for 50 it might not be the most expensive in the world but its a good bit more than €5 for a student i could go through a box of 50 no bother

    Also with a sound moderator i would be able to use subsonics which would be a nice bonus basically the .22 would just suit better im in no big hurry to change but if i find a .22 i like ill trade it for my magnum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    ...im in no big hurry to change but if i find a .22 i like ill trade it for my magnum
    Good luck in your quest. As I'm sure you already know, there are loads of .22lr rifles out there, so you should have no bother finding 'the right one'.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Umiq88


    yeah thinking of looking in a few places today i would love an old brno if i could get one in good condtion pre 1992 or something like that but i doubt ill find one for my budget cant wait to get my .22 and €30 for 500 rounds


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    A couple of places that have decent stock of rifles, that should be within reasonable distance of you (Kilkenny?)-
    Stakelums Firearms (inside Stakelums Hardware), Urlingford, 056-8831018. Sean Harding is the man to talk to.
    The Tackle Shop, Rahan, Tullamore, 0506-55979. Call ahead to make sure you get to deal with Jim (Griffin) if you plan going there :rolleyes:

    Neither of these places is 'cheap', but they like their rifles and have a wide range of stock. I've bought from both, and will deal with them again.
    I'm sure other readers will have more recommendations, but these two stand out for me as places to go for rifles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Umiq88


    Thanks rovi might try urlingford im really looking for a second hand cz 452 silhouette and maybe do a straight trade for my rifle or i can sell a phone or 2 if i need extra cash


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Umiq88


    is it possible to buy .22wmr ammo in bulk anywhere and what sort of prices would they be at or is there anything availbe cheaper than €12 a box thats reasonably accurate


  • Registered Users Posts: 246 ✭✭TomBeckett


    Thanks rovi might try urlingford im really looking for a second hand cz 452 silhouette and maybe do a straight trade for my rifle or i can sell a phone or 2 if i need extra cash

    If you want a little advice" stick with your magnum a mate of mine had a .22lr and it was a CZ oh jesus it nearly drove me insane trying to zero the scope. the blooming thing shot every shot differently:confused: dont know wat it was i think the rifeling in the barrell was the problem mabye it was just made on a monday morning or something because CZ are normally pritty good. he traded it anyway got a Remi in .223 . actually you were talking about cheap ammo he gets 20 rds of .223 for €9 thats pritty good id say thats in the angling and outdoor center in waterford!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    Tom, are you trying to say that the .22lr is inherently not as accurate as a .22wmr or something? This may come as something of a shock to many of us who own and use .22lr rifles.

    Your advice so far seems to be that the .22wmr is a "far better" round than the .22lr, without checking what the OP wants to use it for, and now you seem to be saying that you had trouble zeroing a .22lr at some stage, the calibre is to be avoided.

    The thing with shooting is there is no shortage of advice offered by the experts, the problem for a less experienced person is trying to filter the advice they get.


  • Registered Users Posts: 246 ✭✭TomBeckett


    civdef wrote:
    Tom, are you trying to say that the .22lr is inherently not as accurate as a .22wmr or something? This may come as something of a shock to many of us who own and use .22lr rifles.

    Your advice so far seems to be that the .22wmr is a "far better" round than the .22lr, without checking what the OP wants to use it for, and now you seem to be saying that you had trouble zeroing a .22lr at some stage, the calibre is to be avoided.

    The thing with shooting is there is no shortage of advice offered by the experts, the problem for a less experienced person is trying to filter the advice they get.

    Ok i shall re phrase..
    From what the op has said in many of his previous posts he does a lot of rabbit and fox shooting and likes to take few long distanse shots therefor he would be better off sticking with his .22wmr or moving up to say .223 .22lr is not suited to shooting foxs!
    Im not saying for one minute that .22lr is a bad round.. but you must consider what he is going to use it for a .22lr is fine for shooting rabbits out to 120yds and is well suited to that..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Umiq88


    I only shoot rabbits with the gun would like to get into fox shooting though my thought was to trade the magnum for a lr if i find something i like was also half thinking of getting more into target shooting and this might be an easy way of starting into it just an idea though. I will probably buy a centrefire gun next year or the year after depending on how money is and my FO


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