Premiership Flops of the year

MonkeyTennis

Ok excluding injury hit players who has been your Premiership flops of the year? Give us 3

For me

Albert Luque
Feranando Morientes:(
Patrice Evra (on further refelction gets subbed by Boumsong!)

Big Nelly

Evra didnt really get a chance to sign, most foreign players need around one season before they fit into PL footie, Pires for example was terrible in his first season.

Luque
Boumsong
Morientas

MonkeyTennis

suppose so. Ill Boumsong can take his place though he did improve towards the end

RE*AC*TOR

Evra has been quite poor. Looks like another Silvestre. He might settle down though.

Park has been very disspointing - I remember seeing him playing for PSV against AC and he was amazing. Haven't seen much of that.

For liverpool, obviously Morientes, but also Cissé, back from injury, didn't meet expectations.

PHB

Park has been quality for United. Whenever he has played he has been clear and direct, and when he plays, is nearly always involved in the movement leading up to the goal.

Just an aside:

Park has a rating of 7.7 from all the users of Sky Sports. The only person higher at United is Rooney on 7.9.

On your own on your own on your own comes to mind.

Evra played 8 games in the premiership.
3 of them were quite good.
I don't know how you could call him a flop. Wait till next year.

Wasn't Luque injured all year? Hence why he played like 8 starts.

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SWP would be there in my books. Boumsong can't be a flop, it implies that he is preforming below a level he had before or isn't preforming to his max. He's just a terrible player.

RE*AC*TOR

PHB wrote:

Park has been quality for United. Whenever he has played he has been clear and direct, and when he plays, is nearly always involved in the movement leading up to the goal.

Just an aside:

Park has a rating of 7.7 from all the users of Sky Sports. The only person higher at United is Rooney on 7.9.

On your own on your own on your own comes to mind.

:rolleyes: you can believe whatever you want to believe. If you think he's playing half as well as he was for PSV, that's fine.

When you have a midfield like UTD's to compare him against, perhaps he appears good. But judging from what I saw of him last year - he has been hugely dissapointing.

3 goals and 7 assists across all competitions? He gets pushed off the ball in a manner that can only be described as Vladimir Smicer-esque.

Necronomicon

I don't think Park has been a flop. Evra, well it would be a bit harsh to call him a flop seeing as how he hasn't had much time to adapt. He's looked shaky at times, but he's had one or two really decent games.

Stky10

PHB wrote:

Wasn't Luque injured all year? Hence why he played like 8 starts.

For some of it. Other times he was fit, but wasn't even on the subs bench. Other times he was on the bench, but wasn't brought on.

Most of the times he was brought on he had a stinker.

Good player from what I remember of him from Deportivo, but the move just hasn't worked out, and he looks like he wants out bigtime.

Sajan

Personally I think it is Harsh to call Cisse a flop.. Sure he is frustrating and he is not a great player. But he scored 20 goals. Not many of them in the Premiership granted but I find it hard to call a player with 20 goals a flop..

And Park. He's been outstanding.

Nunu

Jermaine Defoe (Spurs)
Damien Duff (Chelsea)
Djembe Djemba / Juan Pablo Angel (Villa)

cournioni

Duff
Defoe
Luque

Johnny_the_fox

i dont think Defoe was a flop with eight goals in 22 starts which isnt bad..

Royale with Cheese

Johnny_the_fox wrote:

i dont think Defoe was a flop with eight goals in 22 starts which isnt bad..

It's not great either. I think he's been a flop because everyone was expecting great things after 2004/5 and he's gone backwards.

Jonny Arson

Baros
Crespo
Ferdinand
Silvestre
Morientes
Campbell
Valente
Luque

all fcuking disasters this season as far as I'm concerned.

Lex Luthor

Sajan wrote:

Personally I think it is Harsh to call Cisse a flop.. Sure he is frustrating and he is not a great player. But he scored 20 goals. Not many of them in the Premiership granted but I find it hard to call a player with 20 goals a flop..

And Park. He's been outstanding.

22 for Cisse and I think Park has improved in the last 2-3 months.

Also harsh on Crespo...given his chence in the team he was good.

Surprised nobody has mentioned Crouch yet

Royale with Cheese

Lex Luthor wrote:

Surprised nobody has mentioned Crouch yet

Thou shalt not criticise the holy one.

dcarroll

van der meyde, remember him 2 years ago in th cl for ajax

Jazzy

evra and park ?

oh forgot... this is boards... its cool to randomly diss utd in any shape and form.


Morientes
Luque

thats off the top of my head

and john stead

el rabitos

Morientes
Luque
souness
overweight irish guy that plays for spurs...um...? reid i think.
aston villa - they all suck
Duff
Defoe
Boumsong
cisse

*edit*

oh forgot... this is boards... its cool to randomly diss utd in any shape and form.

its not 1999 anymore, chelsea are the new team to dis, get with the times

dannyd20

sander westerweld
mario melchiot
asier del horno
wilfred bouma
gary breen
per kroldrup
jermain jenas
laurent robert
milan baros
mikael forsell
jermain defoe

:eek:

astrofool

Reyes
Campbell
Fletcher
Cisse
Mori
SWP

from the top 4

Hobart

Cisse,
Ronaldo,
Evra,
SWP,
And the Boomer for Newcastle!!

All played below expectations, especially Evra who looks like another disaster of a signing for AF.

Necronomicon

To be honest I wouldn't lose too much sleep if Evra didn't work out with Gabby coming back, it wouldn't be as bad as a big money midfielder flopping next season. But I think he should be given more time, he has only played a handful of games.

Hobart

I don't disagree tbh. But I don't think you can play "lets see" with a team such as Manu and their expectant fans.

PHB

Actually you can.
When a player joins from a foreign league, he always needs time to adjust, and when he doesn't, he is quite the exception, like Vidic.

Hobart

PHB wrote:

Actually you can.
When a player joins from a foreign league, he always needs time to adjust, and when he doesn't, he is quite the exception, like Vidic.

Maybe I should have been clearer.

I don't believe Manu *should* be in a position that they find themselves in when it comes to waiting on players to adjust. They have always prided themselves (and been execptionally good at) having players in the wings ready and willing to step in when an injury or other abscence occured, be that from their youth policy or from a signing that they have made to cover other competitions. They seem to have been caught out of late, especially with Evra.

Whatever about his lack of preperation for the premiership, he seems to lack some basics and seems a tad week on the ball. One of his glaring problems being, how easy it is to muscle him off the ball and his basic lack of passing ability.

KdjaCL

Playing so little games whilst being fit would be considered a flop too, honestly dont know why he was bought. Was it a kick in the arse for other players?



Cisse
Boumsong
Stead


Luque
Morientes

Top 3 just not very good, bottom 2 just not arsed.

Where does Danny Murphy fit in? Good at the start then went to Spurs and played maybe 2 full games.

kdjac

Hobart

I think at this stage Danny is just in for the ride. He was never happy at "unfashionable" Charlton and the Spurs move seemed more like an ego boost than anything else. Pity, the guy had potential and was a decent player at Liverpool (in his day).

Necronomicon

Indeed, but you don't even have to go back as far as his Liverpool days. At the start of last season when Charlton were lighting up the Premiership with 4 wins in the opening 4 games he was being hailed as the Danny Murphy of old, and even being tipped to make a return to the England setup.

Guy:Incognito

dannyd20 wrote:

gary breen

He doesnt count, see phb's post re: boumsong (#5)

Jazzy

Hobart wrote:

Maybe I should have been clearer.

I don't believe Manu *should* be in a position that they find themselves in when it comes to waiting on players to adjust. They have always prided themselves (and been execptionally good at) having players in the wings ready and willing to step in when an injury or other abscence occured, be that from their youth policy or from a signing that they have made to cover other competitions. They seem to have been caught out of late, especially with Evra.

Whatever about his lack of preperation for the premiership, he seems to lack some basics and seems a tad week on the ball. One of his glaring problems being, how easy it is to muscle him off the ball and his basic lack of passing ability.

yeah, maybe u should.
you win some, u lose some. but u only find out if u made a bad transfer when a player plays a certain amount of games and just isnt improving whatsoever. Man U are no longer in a posistion where they can buy poorly and not care, thats chelsea's department. i didnt see the need for evra when he was bought and still dont... but he could yet be a quality player cos heinze is 29 after all and might not have too many years left

also, speaking of left backs... asier del horno was rubbish this season. was so happy to see gallas on the EPL XI

futuredeath

i find it insane that people call swp a flop,
he hasn't even been given the chance to be a flop.

eirebhoy

futuredeath wrote:

i find it insane that people call swp a flop,
he hasn't even been given the chance to be a flop.

Either has Duff and Robben with that tiny little leash that Mourinho keeps them on.

astrofool

You'd have to assume that if SWP was playing well in the reserves/training, that he would have been given his run of games. One thing Chelsea do at least do, is use the players that give them the best chance at winning (odd tactics aside). SWP obviously didn't show enough to get himself into the team against an underperforming Duff and Robben.