Pedophiles to launch political party

ODS

OMG :eek: :mad:
First yesterdays ruling and now this? What the fcuk is going wrong with the world? :mad: :eek: :mad: :eek:


Tue May 30, 1:03 PM ET
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals, sparking widespread outrage.

The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to shake The Hague awake!"

The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.

"A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.

"We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium.

"We want to get into parliament so we have a voice. Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters.

The Netherlands, which already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage, was shocked by the plan.

An opinion poll published Tuesday showed that 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal.

"They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen van Engelen told the AD daily.

Right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders said he had asked the government to investigate whether a party with such "sick ideas" could really be established, ANP news agency reported.

Kees van deer Staaij, a member of the Christian SGP party, also demanded action: "Pedophilia and child pornography should be taboo in every constitutional state. Breaking that will just create more victims and more serious ones."

The party wants private possession of child pornography to be allowed although it supports the ban on the trade of such materials. It also supports allowing pornography to be broadcast on daytime television, with only violent pornography limited to the late evening.

Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said.

The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all.



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Sarky

Free train travel, eh? Nice one.

Victor

But we already have the PDophiles in this country.

Roen

No comment except Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Mimikyu

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Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Isn't there already one in Denmark...? Age of consent is apparently 13 in Spain, too...

Our man in Havana

Ikky Poo2 wrote:

Isn't there already one in Denmark...? Age of consent is apparently 13 in Spain, too...

And Child porn is legal there too! :mad:

Davei141

I can picture all the old men walking around playgrounds with their "right to be naked".

This is a joke? surely?

ODS

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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Well on reading it again, it would seem to suggest that only 2/3 of those questioned in the opinion poll believed "promoting pedophilia should be illegal". What about the other 1/3? :eek:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Bond-007 wrote:

And Child porn is legal there too! :mad:

Now THAT'S frightening

Roen

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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Yep, that was what the 'except' qualifier was.

Victor

Bond-007 wrote:

And Child porn is legal there too! :mad:

I think that was only for a short period in the 1970s

Davei141 wrote:

I can picture all the old men walking around playgrounds with their "right to be naked".

Actually, in the Netherlands and Denmark, the presumption is that its OK to be naked and you need to cause actual serious offence as opposed to 'might cause offence'. So I think thats 'covered'.

Our man in Havana

I thought that child porn was decriminalised in countries such as Sweden and Denmark?

Fanny Cradock

To quote kent brockman: "I've said it before, and I'll say it again: democracy doesn't work".

It's a terrible state of affairs when a country is so concerned with NOT treading on toes, and so weak in it's ability to stand up against a wrong that it will let this **** even be considered. There is such a thing as too much freedom!

ODS

From another Dutch-based news service. Apparently "Rearing is also about introducing children to sex". Its a sad world somedays.:(




Dutch paedophiles set up political party

30 May 2006

AMSTERDAM — Pro-paedophile activists have established a new political party in the Netherlands to campaign for the legalisation of sex between adults and children.

"Ten years ago we were 'on speaking terms' with society. But since [Belgian paedophile killer] Marc Dutroux there is no more discussion. All paedophiles are being put in the same box. We are being hushed up," Ad van den Berg, the co-founder of the NVD party, told newspaper 'AD'.

The NVD, which is being officially launched on Wednesday, will lobby for a reduction in the age of consent in the Netherlands from 16 to 12 and then phased out completely over time. "Forbidding makes children all the more curious," Van den Berg said.

"Rearing is also about introducing children to sex." He emphasised that this would have to take place on a consensual basis "as we are just as opposed to abuse as everyone else is".

The party's full name is 'Naastenliefde, Vrijheid en Diversiteit (NVD). Naastenliefde can mean love of one's neighbour or charity, while Vrijheid en Diversiteit mean freedom and Diversity.

The NVD will also wants to make it legal to possess child pornography and a reduction in the minimum age to feature in porn from 18 to 16. An initial media report that the party wanted the age restriction lowered to 12 was corrected in later reports.

A quality mark system should be introduced whereby an independent agency would decide whether children had been forced to act in the movies, according to the party's programme.

The new party is closely linked to the "Martijn" Association, which campaigns for acceptance of paedophilia and adult-child love relationships. Van den Berg is chairman of the association.

Martijn was the target of a demonstration by the extreme right-wing Nationale Alliante (NA) group on Saturday. Police arrested 20 members of far left group Anti-Fascist Action for attacking the NA demonstrators. Several AFA members were still in custody on Saturday.

Keen not to be pegged as a single-issue party, the NVD's programme also suggest other radical reforms not related to adult-child sex. For instance, the programme calls for the abolition of the cabinet of ministers and direct election of the prime minister. Animals would get more rights.

'Consensual' sex between humans and animals would remain legal, coupled with a prohibition on sexual abuse of animals. Convicted murders who kill again would be automatically jailed for life.

The NVD is in favour on strict control of government finances, with a ban on running a budget deficit. And all government documents would have to be published in both Dutch and English.

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Fanny Cradock

Huh? They want animals to have more rights, yet they want to make intercourse with them legal :eek: . These guys are sick.

lostexpectation

Fanny Cradock wrote:

To quote kent brockman: "I've said it before, and I'll say it again: democracy doesn't work".

It's a terrible state of affairs when a country is so concerned with NOT treading on toes, and so weak in it's ability to stand up against a wrong that it will let this **** even be considered. There is such a thing as too much freedom!

I don't know about this lot above but we can hardly compare our experience of sex and nakedness with democracy or with Scandiavias take on things?

The Song Thrush

'Consensual' sex between humans and animals would remain legal, coupled with a prohibition on sexual abuse of animals.

How exactly does an animal consent to sex with a human?

funky penguin

ODS wrote:

The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public

I've been at a few parties like that alright. Good times.....

Crucifix

They must really be banking on the idea of sitting naked on a free train taking drugs clouding the voters' minds.

Hagar

The Song Thrush wrote:

How exactly does an animal consent to sex with a human?

Have you never seen a dog humping someone's leg? Without asking I might add...

Pigman II

I'm sure lots of people around the world were equally aghast at:

1) Abolishion of slavery.

2) Legalisation of various drugs

3) Given women equal rights.

4) Relaxed attitudes to pornography.

5) Acceptance of homosexuality.

It does bother me that people these days seem to think just because they stick two fingers up at the church that they are now SO enlightened and so they're SO liberal. They know it all and have it all sussed as regards what is right and wrong in society! However mention the word paedo or dogfúcker to them and they're just as bad as their parents & grandparents.

Don't get me wrong I'm not in favour of chesters or beastmasters but I do get this feeling that when I'm an old man I'm going to be getting lectures from my grandson about being so old-fashioned whilst he gives the labrador a handjob.

Sgt. Politeness

Pigman II wrote:

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Don't get me wrong I'm not in favour of chesters or beastmasters but I do get this feeling that when I'm an old man I'm going to be getting lectures from my grandson about being so old-fashioned whilst he gives the labrador a handjob.

Well we've all seen Rebecca Loos whack off a pig live on TV so we're halfway there already.
Everything is becoming gradually more and more acceptable. People are exposed to more bizarre and subverse types of porno on a daily basis thanks to the internet so something that may have been shocking and weird a few years ago like bukkake or gokkun or tranny porn is gradually becoming mainstram and barely gets a raised eyebrow these days. Having legal/acceptable child porn wont be far off. To quote the paedo on Brass eye talking about discrimination against paedos, "its just another form of racism."
See where your freedom of speech gets you now, hippy. This would never have happened under the Nazis.

Jumpy

I find this difficult to take seriously. It has to be a pisstake or a very bad piece of journalism. The idea is so off the charts I think it cant be serious.

mike65

Every now and again they feel the need to live up our sterotype of Dutch people being Crazy Guys or doped perverts.

Mike.

Terry

Pigman II wrote:

I'm sure lots of people around the world were equally aghast at:

1) Abolishion of slavery.

2) Legalisation of various drugs

3) Given women equal rights.

4) Relaxed attitudes to pornography.

5) Acceptance of homosexuality.

It does bother me that people these days seem to think just because they stick two fingers up at the church that they are now SO enlightened and so they're SO liberal. They know it all and have it all sussed as regards what is right and wrong in society! However mention the word paedo or dogfúcker to them and they're just as bad as their parents & grandparents.

Don't get me wrong I'm not in favour of chesters or beastmasters but I do get this feeling that when I'm an old man I'm going to be getting lectures from my grandson about being so old-fashioned whilst he gives the labrador a handjob.

i see where you're coming from, but talk to someone who has been the subject of a paedophiles passion and they will tell you that it's not a very nice experience.
the fact of the matter is, children are too young to consent to sex and know exactly what the are doing, therefore it is illegal for an adult to have sex with a child.
unless you live in Ireland.

Blisterman

Sounds like a Dutch version of NAMBLA.

ODS

Blisterman wrote:

Sounds like a Dutch version of NAMBLA.

What on earth is NAMBLA?

flogen

I think they should be allowed to set up, it would save the police thousands of euro trying to track them online, just look at the party membership.

Jesus, imagine the massacre that would be their (short-lived) door-to-door canvas... scumbags

ODS

flogen wrote:

I think they should be allowed to set up, it would save the police thousands of euro trying to track them online, just look at the party membership.

Jesus, imagine the massacre that would be their (short-lived) door-to-door canvas... scumbags

Yeah...the perverts even have a website for their "party":eek: ; but dont worry i will not dignify them by posting a link here!

Our man in Havana

ODS wrote:

What on earth is NAMBLA?

Have you not seen South Park? NAMLA is the North American Man Boy Love Association. :eek: