True Lives documentary on the murder of Jerry McCabe

daveirl

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SDLP... i thought this was common knowledge to people who take an interest in all this.

ya around election time.... oh where are they now, ah yes the election in the north is over...

i wonder do we have elections coming up in the next year or so.

come on people... lets look through the obvious smoke screen

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IronMan wrote:

Truly stomach churning stuff. Why do people like you hate the republic and this democracy so much?

we all voted for the good Friday agreement...and under that agreement they should be released... now that democracy.

ScottishDanny

Its 'McCartney' not McCarthy. Have you seen them in the media recently? No. Why? Because the story isn't 'sexy' enough for the media anymore - the public eye has moved on.

If RTE had a 'red and green' vision doesn't that mean they're more sympathetic to Stickies rather than Provo's?

daveirl

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Sand

yeah,like Gerry mcCabe was.....much water as a sand riddle.

Wow, I wish the world was as black and white for me as it seems to be for you.

I think he was being sarcastic - though confusion is understandable because Provos do think on those lines, as demonstrated in this thread.

Brave woman to confront adams at a shinner fund raiser, he spoke to her like she was a small child, I'd love to see her run in the next election up against that gunner runner Ferris.

Well, in his defence its the intellectual level he pitches his spiel to mostly. Id like to see her run against Ferris as well but in fairness - she shouldnt have to. Shes a widow, and she should be able to rely on the politicians and institutions of this state to defend her and her husband against the subversion of these mafia scumbags. Its deeply shameful that Bertie Ahern agreed to do a deal with Adams over the murder of a Garda, and deeply shameful that McCabe has to continue to fight because no politician appear willing to confront SFIRA - with the exception of McDowell who is loathed and consistently attacked by both Provo sympathisers and those too craven to stand up with him.

And its shameful that people will vote for Ferris when his daughter refuses to condemn the murder of a Garda, and her father - a serving TD - said he would never co-operate with any investigation into McCabes murder, and not pass on information to the Gardai. This is a serving TD, one of our lawmakers. The repeated message from the Ferris sick clan is that they endorse this murder, or at the very least would never lift a finger to see justice done. This is the calibre of "organisation" that people are voting for.

I somehow doubt it will have much of an influence in the Republican movement. Anyone who is equivocal about the wrongness of cold-bloodedly murdering a family man doing his job is, quite frankly, living on a different planet from the rest of civilisation.

It will have none. The people who vote for SFIRA do so in full knowledge of who theyre voting for. The bitter denials and demands to prove fire is hot and water is wet are simply an expression of contempt for others, that they consider others to be stupid enough to believe their ****e. When you vote for SFIRA you endorse their murder, crime and terrorism - it can hardly shock you when they commit murder, crime and terrorism.

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murphaph

I watched the programme too. I found it very sad first and foremost. I know guards just like McCabe, family men who almost treat the job as a sideline and are really jolly blokes. I reckon McCabe was a great family man.

Anyway, the scum who murdered him and attempted to murder O'Sullivan (both Gardai performing their duties for this state, that's for us!!) are beneath contempt as are anyone who dares defend those crimes.

The Ferris clan are out and out trash. There's just no nice way of putting it. That picture they showed of Martin Ferris stood shoulder to shoulder with them in Castlerea was truly sickening-a sitting TD in Dail Eireann openly supporting cop killers. You shouldn't be allowed back through the doors of Leinster House following that act. It should be called treason. A guard represents this state for God's sake.

Ann McCabe is clearly a shattered woman. She looks completely empty. It's really sad. She'll never get justice either.

I wonder, McCabe was a Kerryman, right? If she did stand against Ferris, would she win? She just might bring out a different voter. I'd love to see that scumbag unseated by a decent human being like Ann McCabe.

Dirk Gently

Brian Capture wrote:

Detective Jerry McCabe was killed accidentally by 17 stray bullets fired by a group of freedom fighters.

He died while they were trying to end British rule in Ireland.
Those men are heroes who should be freed.

Was this not sarcasm?
Bad attempt at it alright but smells of sarcasm to me.
Maybe the poster can come back and confirm or else I got it wrong when thinking nobody could be so stupid (even ra heads)

ReefBreak

Detective Jerry McCabe was killed accidentally by 17 stray bullets fired by a group of freedom fighters.

He died while they were trying to end British rule in Ireland.
Those men are heroes who should be freed.

This is a direct quote from:
http://www.hotpress.com/discuss/topic.adp?d=248709&t=2867961

i.e. it was complete sarcasm.

ReefBreak

Sand wrote:

And its shameful that people will vote for Ferris when his daughter refuses to condemn the murder of a Garda, and her father - a serving TD - said he would never co-operate with any investigation into McCabes murder, and not pass on information to the Gardai. This is a serving TD, one of our lawmakers. The repeated message from the Ferris sick clan is that they endorse this murder, or at the very least would never lift a finger to see justice done. This is the calibre of "organisation" that people are voting for.

Sand is still the best debater on Boards.ie/politics as far as I'm concerned.

I would love to see Ann McCabe run against Gunner Ferris, but only if I was convinced she would win the seat.

Cork

ReefBreak wrote:

I would love to see Ann McCabe run against Gunner Ferris, but only if I was convinced she would win the seat.

I would like to see this as well.

We have an Irish political party refusing to condemn the murder of a Garda.

What is more, we have 8 or 9% of the electorate willing to vote for such.

BillyCom

Reefbreak, heres a blogsite run by a typical Shinner-voting idiot.
http://gaskinbalrog.blogspot.com/

Scroll down to the Thread entitled "Ferris won't betray trust " and you can see the calibre of the people running this site. :mad:

Tsar

I too think Sand is the best debater on Boards.ie/politics. I think it is a sad reflection on the people of this country that Martin Ferris is TD.

Sand

I too think Sand is the best debater on Boards.ie/politics. I think it is a sad reflection on the people of this country that Martin Ferris is TD.

With 1 post and just registered within the last 11 days, Id advise you to withold judgement and give the others a fair crack of the whip...

Scroll down to the Thread entitled "Ferris won't betray trust " and you can see the calibre of the people running this site

Despite protests about heirarchy of victims, SFIRA definitly operate and hold a very stict ranking of victims. Victims of republicans are expected to shut up and mind their place, victims of loyalists are expected to constantly remind everyone why they cant trust the PSNI, and victims of the British army are expected to constantly remind everyone why the Brits are the real oppressors at the end of the day.

Dirk Gently

Quite the little fan club you have there sand.

Think I might set up a few new accounts and pat myself on the back just to equal things out a bit.

Sand

Quite the little fan club you have there sand.

Think I might set up a few new accounts and pat myself on the back just to equal things out a bit.

Well, I dont know - half my fan club is ashamed to admit membership under their real identity. Not sure that Im pleased about being ranked up there with pot noodle fetishes in the appreciation/shame stakes.

mountainyman

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I like the eliding from the '70s to the present day. Who TODAY do you think is pro provo in RTE? Anyway I don't agree.

Eoghan Harris was fairly influential at that time; he hates the provos and always has/ RTE was heavily censored and the government of the state was aggressively anti provo. There was very little complaint from within RTE when censorship was brought in precisely because they were a bunch of lefties (though I think that's pretty unlikely : I am sure there were many more Fianna Failures than Workers Party).

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I'd be interested in a couple of examples.
Morning dIreland today was all the cancer strategy (YAWN) and sNewstalk was all Roy Keane (good riddance to bad rubbish). Nothing about or from the northa at all.

In fact if you dislike the provos you should want as much news about them in the north as possible because their whole strategy down here is based on the lie trhat they are left wing.

MM

Jackie laughlin

Mrs. McCabe Versus Martin Ferris! Madness! Criminal Vs victim! What if she lost? The people of Kerry have enough choice already. Its simple really: SF/IRA versus democracy.

my_house

get over it people. the shinners are gaining power and will keep doing so, regardless of how many of you assume all shin fein voters are stupid.

SF/IRA? what is that?

ReefBreak

my_house wrote:

get over it people. the shinners are gaining power and will keep doing so, regardless of how many of you assume all shin fein voters are stupid.

SF/IRA? what is that?

[Flashback to the 1930s...]get over it people. the Nazis are gaining power and will keep doing so, regardless of how many of you assume all Nazi voters are stupid.

Fortunately for those who don't vote for murderers, bank robbers, liars and terrorists, the Shinner poll figures has been stuck at 8-10% for a couple of years now.

Jackie laughlin

No one thinks that Sinn Fein voters are stupid. Many people think it wrong to vote for a party which includes gun runners, members of a private army, former members of a private army, vigilantes, murderers, bank robbers and other assorted thugs who oppose constitutional politics.

You know damn well that the SF/IRA is a label used to cover the combined membership of Sinn Fein and the IRA and that many members belong to both.

8 - 10% is more than enough to destroy our constitutional republic.

The best outcome is that the media will do their job and expose the crimes of these pseudo republicans (lately pseudo socialists) and that the worst of them will crawl out of public life while the personally ambitious rump will be absorbed into Fianna Fail.

Jaden

ReefBreak wrote:

[Flashback to the 1930s...]get over it people. the Nazis are gaining power and will keep doing so, regardless of how many of you assume all Nazi voters are stupid.

Godwin!

You lose.

ScottishDanny

The PD's are in power with 3-4% of the popular vote, what does that say about democracy?

civdef

That we are lucky to live in a healthy multi-party democracy where voters for smaller parties know that they stand a chance of having their vote count through coalition governments (compare with the UK or USA, for example).

Both FF and the PD's made it clear they were amenable to a renewal of their coalition before the election, so the people who voted for the current government knew what they would be getting.

Jackie laughlin

In neither the USA or Britain is there an elected member whose party retains a private army. In neither case have people elected a convicted gun runner. It is true that Britain's BNP look enviously at SF/IRA's creation of police no-go areas in poor estates which they then "police"/rule themselves.

A Dub in Glasgo

ReefBreak wrote:

[Flashback to the 1930s...]get over it people. the Nazis are gaining power and will keep doing so, regardless of how many of you assume all Nazi voters are stupid.

Comparing things to the Nazis is the best indication that straws are being clutched.

Jackie laughlin

A comparison with Nazi Germany would indeed be stupid. However, our homegrown Nazis are not quite so ambitious or anywhere near as popular. They are however just as noxious.

ReefBreak

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

Comparing things to the Nazis is the best indication that straws are being clutched.

Nazi = The Nationalist Socialist Party.
Sinn Féin = A Socialist Nationalist Party.

However, I would say that Sinn Féin are without a doubt the closest we have in this country to a Fascist Nationalist party. What other party has a private army, and has a record of murdering those people that no longer agree with it's views?

Regarding your sig, why is a Shinner so obsessed with a British club?

ReefBreak

ReefBreak wrote:

Regarding your sig, why is a Shinner so obsessed with a British club?

please read the charter.

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