The Hazards of Belief

checkyabadself

I thought that this thread would be best to add a comment I found while checking out a metal bands video on YouTube. It was one of the bands most viewed videos and the general concencus was that the song was one of heir better ones. I was scrolling through the comments while it was playing and there was a fella getting ripped apart for posting, "I don't care if they're good, if they're not Christian I wont listen to them."

Hazard of belief no; 1345, missing out on about 70% of metal bands.

sink

checkyabadself wrote: »

Hazard of belief no; 1345, missing out on about 70% of metal bands.

Some of us wouldn't consider that much of a hazard

liamw

mehfesto wrote: »

If only it wasn't all bull****.

The best part is 9:20 with an image of the twin towers and a message 'Time to pray' .... :rolleyes:

Turtwig

Conservapedia says Einstein was wrong.


Rubbishing biology was ok, but now they see it necessary to assault physics.:mad:

The Conservapedia page then lists 30 counterexamples to general relativity, any of which, it claims, "shows that the theory is incorrect". Many of these are bizarre, such as "the action-at-a-distance by Jesus, described in John 4:46-54." Apparently, Jesus's ability to instantaneously heal a child from a distance – his healing powers travelled through space faster than the speed of light – was evidence enough to rule out Einstein's theory.

Dades

^^ You'd have to laugh, if you weren't fighting back the tears.

Stercus Accidit

Malty_T wrote: »

Conservapedia says Einstein was wrong.


Rubbishing biology was ok, but now they see it necessary to assault physics.:mad:

Reminds me of this http://zs1.smbc-comics.com/comics/20100504.gif

amacachi

I hate when conservative is used to describe people like that or by themselves.

Galvasean

Pregnant woman lashed more than 200 times and shot in the head 'according to Islam'

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/83/wwwthetimescoukttonewsw.jpg

Turtwig

Afghanistan has such a long way to go and is really a stark window into the past behaviour of human beings under the so called God decreed laws that we ran away from and some idiots want to bring us back into.

mikhail

The link kind of says it all.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7950087/Amulet-advert-banned-over-claim-of-divine-protection.html

amacachi

One reader challenged the claims and said he wanted proof that the amulet worked.

He is brilliant, whoever he is. :pac:

cavedave

Federal appeals court says highways' crosses are unconstitutional

While placed on public land and with the state's permission, the crosses themselves are privately owned and maintained. The state expressly noted it "neither approves or disapproves of the memorial marker."

Could this be a hazard on unbelief?

cavedave

Those who believe in witchcraft rate their lives at a 4.3 on average, while those who do not believe or don't have an opinion rate their lives higher on the scale, at 4.8 on average.

So believing in witchcraft does not make you happier

mikhail

cavedave wrote: »

So believing in witchcraft does not make you happier

Dave!

Poor bastard can't even look at a bit of porn :

NSFW
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=127185813

ShooterSF

Dave! wrote: »

Poor bastard can't even look at a bit of porn :

NSFW
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=127185813

Im off to offend some female friends

Dave!

I'm beginning to think that Afghanistan should just be nuked, and we should all move on

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL

Galvasean

Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It's not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren't in love with their boys.

Love between two consenting partners - bad.
Raping a child - good.

What a wonderful place...

Dades

Dave! wrote: »

I'm beginning to think that Afghanistan should just be nuked, and we should all move on

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL

This story and that of the Catholic Church are stark evidence of what happens when you vilify people's natural urges.

Unbelievable.

ShooterSF

Maybe the Catholic church could send some clergy to eh... convert the residents.

vibe666

Dave! wrote: »

I'm beginning to think that Afghanistan should just be nuked, and we should all move on

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL

might be worth trying to get the women and kids out first, they're basically prisoners and/or slaves in their own country.

but past that, i'm right behind you, thee's just no place in the world for people like this.

vibe666

might be time to nuke Iran along with them too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1309265/Sakineh-Mohammad-Ashtiani-Iran-woman-lashed-99-times-newspaper-picture.html

Iranian woman facing death by stoning is 'lashed 99 MORE times' after newspaper prints picture of her without headscarf

Dave!

If you've got the stomach for it, have a look at Robert Fisk's relentless description of dozens of cases of 'honour killings' in Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan, etc.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-crimewave-that-shames-the-world-2072201.html

Fvcking horrific

magicbastarder

you really couldn't make this up.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0913/breaking61.html

amacachi

That's the first I've heard of it. :pac:

ColmDawson

Stuff like this makes me so disappointed in humanity.

The suggestion that the government wants to invest in science is laughable now.

Coriolanus

Maybe just the "Hazards of Peddling Bullshít", but didn't see it anywhere on the forum.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/i-see-jail-in-your-future-/411834.html

‘I See Jail in Your Future …’

06 August 2010
A man was jailed by a Kemerovo region court on Thursday for assaulting a Gypsy fortune teller who predicted that he would be jailed, the Investigative Committee said.
Gennady Osipovich tried to kill the unidentified female fortune teller, who told him she saw a “state-owned house” — a Russian euphemism for jail — in his future, the committee said in a statement on its web site.
The woman managed to escape, but Osipovich stabbed to death two unidentified witnesses of the assault, which took place in October. He was sentenced to 22 years in a maximum-security prison.

I'm not sure really, she did predict it pretty well?

vibe666

here's a proper hazard, you could end up 'liking' apple products.

http://www.theblazingcenter.com/2010/09/does-using-apple-products-make-you-a-better-christian.html

don't they have some rule about not worshipping false idols?

ColmDawson

vibe666 wrote: »

here's a proper hazard, you could end up 'liking' apple products.

http://www.theblazingcenter.com/2010/09/does-using-apple-products-make-you-a-better-christian.html

don't they have some rule about not worshipping false iDols?

FYP

Dades

Hmmm, I don't know. My iPhone is like a third arm and it doesn't make me better Christian.

bnt

13 members of a Los Angeles "rapture" cult are missing: story. Eight of them are children.

Members of a “cult-like” group in Southern California—five adults and eight children—were reported missing by their families late yesterday, and left behind letters indicating they were waiting for the Rapture, The Associated Press reported.
...

The Los Angeles Times reported a California Highway Patrol alert that said: “It is believed, through further investigation, that [their] intentions are to commit mass suicide."
According to the newspaper, documents that the group members left behind gave no indication of suicide, but made mention of the "end of the world" and "going to heaven," said Parker.

robindch

The head of Ratzinger's bank has been invited in for questioning over allegations of money-laundering:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0921/breaking43.html

The Mad Hatter

ColmDawson wrote: »

vibe666 wrote: »

here's a proper hazard, you could end up 'liking' apple products.

http://www.theblazingcenter.com/2010/09/does-using-apple-products-make-you-a-better-christian.html

don't they have some rule about not worshipping false iDols?

FYP

(Story.)

Dave!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/22/us/22church.html?_r=2

Lawsuits Accuse Megachurch Leader of Sexual Misconduct
By ROBBIE BROWN

ATLANTA — Two young men in Georgia said Tuesday that the pastor of a 33,000-person Baptist megachurch, Bishop Eddie L. Long, had repeatedly coerced them into having sex with him.

In two lawsuits filed in DeKalb County, the men said that Bishop Long, a prominent minister and television personality, had used his position as a spiritual counselor to take them on trips out of state and perform sexual acts on them.

Bishop Long is the pastor of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, an Atlanta suburb. It is one of the largest churches in the country.

“Defendant Long has a pattern and practice of singling out a select group of young male church members and using his authority as bishop over them to ultimately bring them to a point of engaging in a sexual relationship,” said a suit filed by one of the men, Maurice Robinson, 20. The other man who filed suit is Anthony Flagg, 21.

Bishop Long’s lawyer, Craig Gillen, rejected the accusations.

“Bishop Long adamantly denies these complaints,” Mr. Gillen said. “We find it unfortunate that these two young men have taken these actions. We are reviewing the complaint and will respond accordingly.”

Bishop Long became the church’s pastor in 1987 and, under his leadership, its congregation grew to more than 25,000 people from 300, according to the church’s Web site.

Lawyers for the two men painted a picture of widespread corruption and sexual misconduct. They said Bishop Long had provided the men with free hotel stays in more than a dozen cities around the country (checking them into rooms under the alias “Dick Tracy”) and had given them gifts, including a Mustang. They said he had introduced them to celebrities like the producer Tyler Perry and the actor Chris Tucker.

A lawyer for the men, Brenda Joy Bernstein, said officials at the church had known that the sexual acts were occurring but covered up for Bishop Long. “They would do everything to protect the most powerful church in the Southeast,” she said.

The young men met Bishop Long, who has a wife and four children, through a church program for teenagers, Ms. Bernstein said. The sexual acts occurred when the men were 17 and 18 years old, the lawsuits said.

“They just wanted to be loved and cared for by one of the most charismatic and powerful men that this church has ever known,” Ms. Bernstein said. “He is destroying lives.”

Bishop Long is an outspoken critic of homosexuality and has been called by the Southern Poverty Law Center “one of the most virulently homophobic black leaders in the religiously based anti-gay movement.” He is the author of a book titled “What A Man Wants, What A Woman Needs: The Secret To Successful, Fulfilling Relationships.”

PZ Myers' take on it is funny:

There must be a law

Something like, "The probability that a religious leader is a sex offender is directly proportional to the the virulence of his homophobia." It's happened again.

Two young men in Georgia said Tuesday that the pastor of a 33,000-person Baptist megachurch, Bishop Eddie L. Long, had repeatedly coerced them into having sex with him.

In two lawsuits filed in DeKalb County, the men said that Bishop Long, a prominent minister and television personality, had used his position as a spiritual counselor to take them on trips out of state and perform sexual acts on them.

It's gotten so I can't see any of these crazy god-wallopers and not assume they're going to leave the podium and run off to a back room to do exactly what they've been railing against. It's sort of like a Dorian Gray scheme: they've got a lilly-white sanctimonious face for the public, and what they reveal when off-camera and out of sight is something sickeningly depraved. What Pope Ratzi does behind closed doors must be nightmarish.

Canis Lupus

Nearly 70 children in Zimbabwe died of measles in a two-week period recently after communities of religious sects drove away government health teams trying to immunize their children.

The "Vapostori", or "apostles", combine Christian fundamentalism and African traditional practices, forbid the use of Western medicine and insist on treating the ill with "holy water" and prayer. The Ministry of Disease Control Director stated that the government has tried for years to persuade the sect leaders to allow children to be immunized against measles and other diseases, with little success.

In May, health authorities mounted a massive countrywide immunization campaign after a surge in the viral disease had killed 400, mostly among the sects. There are, however, areas that have continued to report cases of measles because the communities have continued to evade health authorities. The persistent refusal means these closed communities have large numbers of unvaccinated children. The two religious communities, one in south-west Zimbabwe and another in the Mazowe district 40 kilometers north of Harare had "chased away the campaign teams. http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/news/345494,die-measles-resisting-immunization.html#

legspin

As if Zimbabwe didn't have enough problems as it is.

alex73

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Nearly 70 children in Zimbabwe died of measles in a two-week period recently after communities of religious sects drove away government health teams trying to immunize their children.

The "Vapostori", or "apostles", combine Christian fundamentalism and African traditional practices, forbid the use of Western medicine and insist on treating the ill with "holy water" and prayer. The Ministry of Disease Control Director stated that the government has tried for years to persuade the sect leaders to allow children to be immunized against measles and other diseases, with little success.

In May, health authorities mounted a massive countrywide immunization campaign after a surge in the viral disease had killed 400, mostly among the sects. There are, however, areas that have continued to report cases of measles because the communities have continued to evade health authorities. The persistent refusal means these closed communities have large numbers of unvaccinated children. The two religious communities, one in south-west Zimbabwe and another in the Mazowe district 40 kilometers north of Harare had "chased away the campaign teams. http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/news/345494,die-measles-resisting-immunization.html#

There are a lot of Crack pot Christian sects. But not all Christians are like this. As a Catholic who has worked in Africa I can say 100% we never opposed Immunisation. Its essential to stop disease and save lifes, And I would say 99% of Christians would agree.

The Mad Hatter

alex73 wrote: »

There are a lot of Crack pot Christian sects. But not all Christians are like this. As a Catholic who has worked in Africa I can say 100% we never opposed Immunisation. Its essential to stop disease and save lifes, And I would say 99% of Christians would agree.

Same could be said of condoms.

cavedave

HIV-positive teens in Uganda put religion before antiretroviral drugs

robindch

cavedave wrote: »

HIV-positive teens in Uganda put religion before antiretroviral drugs

Religious idiots remove selves from gene pool.

Marcus.Aurelius

I imagine religious people probably have disproportionate representation in the Darwin Awards.

robindch

House wrote: »

I imagine religious people probably have disproportionate representation in the Darwin Awards.

In terms of population genetics, and assuming a genetic component to religious belief, I've always suspected that the religious tend to the r side of the r/K selection model.

Galvasean

robindch wrote: »

Religious idiots remove selves from gene pool.

Something tells me their stupid genes are still in the pool. How do you think they got the HIV in the first place?

Dougla2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50r0CnKq7_k&feature=related

Stercus Accidit

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/10/18/prentiss-county-miss.html

Lose your freedom and have a bible forced on you.

Next they'll be indoctrinating babies!...

0verblood

Not really sure where to post this:

Four dead as lightning strikes Burundi mass
(AFP) – 1 day ago
BUJUMBURA — Lightning struck a church during Sunday mass in southern Burundi, killing the preacher and three of his flock, local officials told AFP.
"Yesterday morning, heavy rains and thunder came down on the Buruhukiro area," the mayor of the local town of Rumonge, Gerard Ndikumana, said Monday.
"Lightning struck the Anglican church and killed four members of the congregation on the spot, including the preacher," he said.
Six other people were wounded and several other buildings damaged in the same incident, which came as heavy downpours wreaked chaos across the small central African nation.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ifrrNy_wFEj-uAsWDxeWHNEiEjvA?docId=CNG.772c043fd8f0c880af1577d5741ee7d0.4d1

sensibleken

how is that funny. thats terrible

mikhail

sensibleken wrote: »

how is that funny. thats terrible

Yeah, he should have put it in Hazards of Belief.

This is what happens when you piss off the lightning god by praying to gods who haven't claimed a kill, much less a decent genocide, in centuries.

Dades

^^ MOVED to the HAZARDS thread!