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The Hazards of Belief

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    #9872
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Meanwhile, ex-prez McAleese writes to pope, threatens to scweam and scweam unthil she's shick:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/mcaleese-threatens-to-leave-catholic-church-if-vanier-story-not-explained-1.4191664



    And if they say they did not fail to act, we can believe them because....??


    She forgets to ask herself two very important questions before this threat - (a) am I a member of the church hierarchy? and (b) do I have penis?


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    #9873
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,405 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Stay away. Stay far away.

    Washington DC Priest Tests Positive For Coronavirus, 500+ Church Visitors Asked To Self-Quarantine

    https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/washington-dc-priest-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-500-church-visitors-asked-to-self-quarantine-qqUKE-H3C0SqqAa0PXHGxw


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    #9874
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users Posts: 19,219 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Stay away. Stay far away.

    Washington DC Priest Tests Positive For Coronavirus, 500+ Church Visitors Asked To Self-Quarantine

    Childish chuckle :p


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    #9875
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Stay away. Stay far away.

    Washington DC Priest Tests Positive For Coronavirus, 500+ Church Visitors Asked To Self-Quarantine

    https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/washington-dc-priest-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-500-church-visitors-asked-to-self-quarantine-qqUKE-H3C0SqqAa0PXHGxw

    Interesting that as Italy goes into quarantine there seems the exceptions seem to be churches and restaurants once people can keep 1 metre away from each other.
    RTE News wrote:
    Religious institutions will stay open, as long as people can stay a metre from one another, but ceremonies such as marriages, baptisms and funerals are banned.


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    #9876
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,608 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Funny how the only demographic which goes to church here in any numbers is the one most at risk... is god trying to send some sort of message about the RCC? :cool:

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #9877
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,608 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Funeral ban could prove awkward...

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #9878
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users Posts: 19,219 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    smacl wrote: »
    Interesting that as Italy goes into quarantine there seems the exceptions seem to be churches and restaurants once people can keep 1 metre away from each other.

    Meanwhile on Sean O Rourke a funeral director was just short of saying anyone who dies of Covid-19 will immediately be torched using a flame thrower and there will be no blasted funeral home or spins in limos or any of that malarkey.


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    #9879
    robindch
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    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Meanwhile on Sean O Rourke a funeral director was just short of saying anyone who dies of Covid-19 will immediately be torched using a flame thrower and there will be no blasted funeral home or spins in limos or any of that malarkey.
    When my time comes, load my corpse and a lot of kindling into a dinghy, set a timer to light a flame after one day, and set the lot sailing south from West Cork. No limo needed.


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    #9880
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,387 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    robindch wrote: »
    When my time comes, load my corpse and a lot of kindling into a dinghy, set a timer to light a flame after one day, and set the lot sailing south from West Cork. No limo needed.
    Seems like an awful waste of a dinghy.


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    #9881
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Peregrinus wrote: »

    Seems like an awful waste of a dinghy.

    I have a dinghy I'd be happy to waste (it might not still be afloat when the timer goes off).


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    #9882
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,387 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    I have a dinghy I'd be happy to waste (it might not still be afloat when the timer goes off).
    I'm sure Robin's natural buoyancy will keep it up.


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    #9883
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Same day, different Snake oil


    Two state attorneys general ordered a prominent televangelist to stop peddling an alleged coronavirus elixir on his show.
    Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt filed a lawsuit Tuesday against Jim Bakker for misrepresentations about the effectiveness of "Silver Solution" as a treatment for coronavirus. Schmitt's lawsuit came a week after the office of New York Attorney General Letitia James sent a cease-and-desist order to Bakker, ordering him to stop promoting the supplement as a COVID-19 treatment.

    Bakker was convicted in 1989 on multiple counts of fraud after he stole millions of dollars in a fundraising scandal. He spent five years in prison before returning to TV in 2003.


    https://abcnews.go.com/US/ny-attorney-general-orders-televangelist-jim-bakker-stop/story?id=69472032


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    #9884
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Just saw this on the news which gave my a wry smile. There are those of us cynical atheists who might suggest that vulnerable people avoid organised religion at the best of times :pac:


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    #9885
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,608 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Honestly thought that fûcker Bakker died years ago. Wishful thinking on my part perhaps.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #9886
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Honestly thought that fûcker Bakker died years ago. Wishful thinking on my part perhaps.




    I had him confused with this yoke
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_Roberts


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    #9887
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,608 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    His organizations were also affected by scandals involving other televangelists and the City of Faith hospital was forced to close in 1989 after losing money. Roberts was forced to respond with the sale of his holiday homes in Palm Springs and Beverly Hills as well as three of his Mercedes cars.

    Eye of a needle, and all that.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #9888
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Odhinn wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_Roberts
    What a name! A bit like the excellent Bob Jones, the abbreviations of whose name is unbeatable.

    Is this unintentional? Or, like anecdotal stories about short men, are people with embarrassing names just choosing to take it out on the world?


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    #9889
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,405 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    robindch wrote: »
    What a name! A bit like the excellent Bob Jones, the abbreviations of whose name is unbeatable.

    Is this unintentional? Or, like anecdotal stories about short men, are people with embarrassing names just choosing to take it out on the world?

    Intentional. LDS followers have unusual names inherited from progenitors. There's Oral Roberts University in Utah. Sometimes they spell it Orel, there's a famous US baseball player Orel Hershiser for example


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    #9890
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,406 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Intentional. LDS followers have unusual names inherited from progenitors. There's Oral Roberts University in Utah. Sometimes they spell it Orel, there's a famous US baseball player Orel Hershiser for example

    Oral Roberts University was founded by the same Oral Roberts that Odhinn linked to. And Oral Roberts wasn't LDS.


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    #9891
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Another one - "I'm healed"

    https://god.dailydot.com/kenneth-copeland-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR1EEItirp4-ULBBTPv4BdjUPli8gubrl5SPwo3AKFUt3aGAyo3J1qjRj3Y


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    #9892
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    In line with policy over the last two millennia, God continues to fail to provide help to his loyal followers. On the plus side, are there any masses which have more than 100 people going to them these days?

    https://www.dublindiocese.ie/update-on-pastoral-arrangements-concerning-coronavirus/
    Archdiocese of Dublin wrote:
    Where you feel that it would not be possible for you to limit attendance at Mass to 100 people, then Masses should be suspended. This applies especially to Saint Patrick’s Day.


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    #9893
    magicbastarder
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    one of those where you don't know whether this is funny or just depressing.

    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1238875821319704581


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    #9894
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    one of those where you don't know whether this is funny or just depressing.
    "And say your prayers inside your own bedroom, stay saying them all day long, say them again tomorrow and every day for the next six weeks."


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    #9895
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,405 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    one of those where you don't know whether this is funny or just depressing.

    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1238875821319704581

    Probably a first amendment violation for #IMPOTUS to do that. Hopefully the ACLU's all over that if it happens.


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    #9896
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    The Russian oligarch who wants Vladimir Putin to be a Tsar

    https://www.ft.com/content/63e0342c-5e2f-11ea-b0ab-339c2307bcd4
    FT wrote:
    In his ornate countryside resort, styled after a Tsarist-era Russian nobleman’s estate and decked with portraits of royalty from centuries past, oligarch Konstantin Malofeev praised his fellow monarchists for their role in shaping the country’s biggest political overhaul in decades. Russia approved constitutional changes this week that could allow Vladimir Putin, the president, to bypass term limits and extend his 20-year rule to at least 2036, when he will be 83. Vedomosti, a leading business newspaper, said the move “essentially turns Putin into a monarch” – a welcome scenario for the dozens of men, many sporting extravagant facial hair and traditional Cossack costumes, gathered in Mr Malofeev’s resort late last month. “These words were like honey for our ears. Our call, the call of all traditionally minded people, has been heard,” said Mr Malofeev, who heads the Double-Headed Eagle, a pro-Putin monarchist society, and is close to the Russian Orthodox Church.

    Radical as the changes are, for this influential clique of conservatives they do not go far enough — they want the Russian president to become tsar. “The constitutional changes are leading us in the right direction: towards a constitutional monarchy,” Mr Malofeev added. The role played by factions such as Mr Malofeev’s reflects both the growing influence of conservative voices and of Mr Putin’s desire to boost turnout at a “people’s vote” on April 22 to approve the constitutional changes. The Russian Orthodox Church can say: ‘We’re conservative, write what we want into the constitution and we’ll get you the turnout’

    The initial proposals included funding for social spending and boosting demographics as an incentive for voters to back arcane and poorly explained procedural changes — such as elevating the State Council, a previously obscure body that Mr Putin reportedly considered heading before publicly rejecting the idea — that have baffled the public.

    With most Russians broadly supportive of his 20-year rule, only 25 per cent planned to vote for the constitutional changes, while 64 per cent admitted they did not know what the reforms were about, according to a poll conducted by the independent Levada Center in February. “It’s obvious that most voters weren’t interested in the amendments. They’re ill-defined and impenetrable,” said political scientist Ekaterina Schulmann. “And then they started taking suggestions from groups who promised to bring people out to vote in exchange for [the government] accepting their demands.”

    Voters will now also have their say on a confusing mixture of new amendments, selected from more than 900 submitted to a hastily assembled constitutional committee, including measures defining marriage as “the union of man and woman” and emphasising the importance of God. “The Russian Orthodox Church can say: ‘We’re conservative, write what we want into the constitution and we’ll get you the turnout,” said Ms Schulmann.

    Mr Putin has yet to divulge his own future plans or explain the rationale behind many of the changes. Asked by reporters “which god Vladimir Putin had in mind” when approving the new bill, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov promised that “this will be explained in good time”. [...]

    But Mr Malofeev is just getting started. “We are all taking seven-mile steps back to the Fundamental Laws of the Russian empire in 1906,” Mr Malofeev said. “We’ll have the State Council, we got the State Duma back a bit earlier, and maybe one day we’ll live to see the Sovereign Emperor.”


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    #9897
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    The dangers of living with albinism, where you can be chopped up and sold as parts.
    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=190753419016583


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    #9898
    nathan99
    Registered Users Posts: 151 ✭✭nathan99


    Odhinn wrote: »
    The dangers of living with albinism, where you can be chopped up and sold as parts.
    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=190753419016583

    I found that video very shocking, words cant describe how inhumane that is.


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    #9899
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Sectarianism in the worlds largest democracy

    As the mob attacks came once, then twice and then a third time in this north-east Delhi neighbourhood, desperate stallholders repeatedly ran to Gokalpuri and Dayalpur police stations crying out for help. But each time they found the gates locked from the inside. For three days, no help came.
    “Some policemen were standing just a few metres away,” said Ravinder. “They did not say anything to us. They turned their faces away from us. We understood that police would not intervene if we turned violent against any Muslim … and a large section of the police all along backed us throughout.”
    His account was echoed by a Hindu priest from Bihar state. The Brahmin, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said he had witnessed young Hindu men in his neighbourhood, who were all BJP supporters, declare that the “police brothers are with us” as they gathered stones, iron rods, knives, machetes, wooden sticks and guns ready to attack Muslims.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/delhis-muslims-despair-justice-police-implicated-hindu-riots


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    #9900
    Ryath
    Registered Users Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Unbelievable 25,000 gather to say Khatme Shifa prayers to save the country from the coronavirus.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0319/1124039-bangladesh-coronavirus/


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    #9901
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,608 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Even as religious stuff goes, that's particularly stupid...

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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