The Hazards of Belief

FouxDaFaFa

But he was just trying to save me and all the other women!

I can't tell you how many times I have left the house wearing jeans and a tshirt only for a MAN to jump out of the bushes and force me to wear a bikini and sell cars.

You don't understand the struggle.

Dades

Creator12 wrote: »

If you were real man, you should resign from this board. But i know you are a sweet lady. lol. The world is very harsh my lady

I took this selfie for you.

TheChizler

Wow.

kylith

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

But he was just trying to save me and all the other women!

I can't tell you how many times I have left the house wearing jeans and a tshirt only for a MAN to jump out of the bushes and force me to wear a bikini and sell cars.

You don't understand the struggle.

Shocking, isn't it? Thankfully I'm generally too busy flicking the bean in the loo to worry too much about how clothes have been banned.

Sarky

Poor dead one. Such an angry boy. And such messed up issues with women. Maybe that's part of the reason he pirates software.

PopePalpatine

Surely hiding a woman under a sheet objectifies her more than sticking her in a bikini?

robindch

Taking vitamin supplements and feeling a bit off-color? There could be a reason:

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/07/the-vitamin-myth-why-we-think-we-need-supplements/277947/?1

kylith

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Surely hiding a woman under a sheet objectifies her more than sticking her in a bikini?

I'd say they're about equal, assuming she is forced into wearing them; one objectifies her as something to look at, the other objectifies her as something to control.

I tell you, I'm a lot more likely to put on a bikini than a burka in this weather. I don't know how women in the Middle East manage it.

Sarky

robindch wrote: »

Taking vitamin supplements and feeling a bit off-color? There could be a reason:

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/07/the-vitamin-myth-why-we-think-we-need-supplements/277947/?1

F*ck, that's unpleasant reading. Taking vitamin supplements makes you more likely to die. And also, poor Pauling, he accomplished so much and then appears to have gone absolutely nuts, and his contributions to chemistry and molecular biology are largely unknown now.

sbsquarepants

Seven months later, his wife was dead of stomach cancer. In 1994, Linus Pauling died of prostate cancer

I'm not sure what age his wife was, but he was 93!

Galvasean

Creator12 wrote: »

This forum has lost its value and credibility for Past few year. The foram was filled with thoughts and opinions when suddenly few Mods of this foram started becoming personal with users. I was one of them. I became victim of tyranny of Dades. He started editing and deleting my post without any reason. Now the foram seems to be dead. The gulls don't land here any more. Moderators, when couldn't shut eye of reason, became dictators. Blood was spilled. IDs were banned. But in this age of tyranny the courage of one man to stands against all the tyrants and dictators is priceless. Liberty is my religion. Liberty of hands, liberty of thoughts, liberty of IDs.

This post is all the more epic when read in this guy's voice:

PopePalpatine

Liberty...as long as you're not a woman. :rolleyes:

Sarky

I always imagined dead one was short so he had to stand on a box to look intimidating, so the Tom Hardy thing works on that level too!

Hotblack Desiato

Isn't it funny when religious types go on about 'liberty' it invariably means religious types having the liberty to take away choices from others.

endacl

ninja900 wrote: »

Isn't it funny when religious types go on about 'liberty' it invariably means religious types having the liberty to take away choices from others.

Funnt 'haha', or funny 'weird'....?

Hotblack Desiato

Not 'funny ha ha'

Ah bless I missed him again. hello dead one o/
Poor man has such issues with women
Temptresses everywhere wha :pac:
And all his female work colleagues throwing themselves at him apparently!

Sarky

Perhaps he's one of those people who thinks not greeting a co-worker with "f*ck off you perv" directly translates as "You're charming the hijab off me, you magnificent stallion".

Beruthiel

An 11 year-old Yemeni girl whose family attempted to force her into an arranged marriage.

Very upsetting to know this goes on all the time.

krudler

bluewolf wrote: »

Ah bless I missed him again. hello dead one o/
Poor man has such issues with women
Temptresses everywhere wha :pac:
And all his female work colleagues throwing themselves at him apparently!

Cover your ankles will you

The Black Oil

Beruthiel wrote: »

An 11 year-old Yemeni girl whose family attempted to force her into an arranged marriage.

Very upsetting to know this goes on all the time.

It is an extraordinary video - raw, passionate, articulate. To see an 11 year old talk about suicide (and the rest) is frightening. I know it's gotten a lot of coverage/views, but compared to the arrival of a certain baby it's gotten feck all.

Beruthiel

The Black Oil wrote: »

It is an extraordinary video - raw, passionate, articulate. To see an 11 year old talk about suicide (and the rest) is frightening. I know it's gotten a lot of coverage/views, but compared to the arrival of a certain baby it's gotten feck all.

It's terribly upsetting.
At 11 years of age your biggest concern should be doing your homework and playing with your toys.
Arranged marriages, aunt dead by suicide due to same, thoughts of killing herself because of what her mother was pushing her to do should not even be conceivable to her.

Penn

Saudi Arabian Women's Conference

Story

PopePalpatine

Is this a game of "Spot the dead_one"? :pac:

SebBerkovich

I think the problem lay with the literal interpretation of the events tag line.

"You've gotta take some balls to show up to this Conference...."

legspin

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Is this a game of "Spot the dead_one"? :pac:

Where's Wally? (now with institutionalised misogyny)

robindch

A study published in April shows a positive correlation between belief in an angry god and a range of psychiatric illnesses:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/17/study-belief-in-an-angry-god-associated-with-variety-of-mental-illnesses/

endacl

Penn wrote: »

Brian Shanahan

endacl wrote: »

Nah, no woman would be seen dead with feet as badly pedicured as in that photo.

endacl

Brian Shanahan wrote: »

Nah, no woman would be seen dead with feet as badly pedicured as in that photo.

Not even dedicated method actors?

Brian Shanahan

endacl wrote: »

Not even dedicated method actors?

Asking a woman not to have well cared for feet would be like asking the pope to stop being homophobic. Not gonna happen.

biko

Saudi activist and blogger Raif Badawi was sentenced on Monday to seven years in prison and 600 lashes for insulting Islam.
Charges of apostasy, which could have led to a death sentence, were dropped.

Another Saudi blogger, Hamza Kashgari, was deported back to his country in February 2012 from Malaysia. He is now being held in jail over blasphemy charges because of Twitter comments he made that were deemed insulting to the Prophet Mohammed.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/saudi-arabia/130731/saudi-activist-raif-badawi-sentenced-7-years-600-lashes

endacl

Reminds me of this...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/02/mali-jihadis-sharia-black-africans

Any religion can go bad with horrible consequences, but when Islam does, primitive zealotry scrapes new depths. Whatever happened to 'let there be no compulsion in religion'?

Hotblack Desiato

Letter in today's IT:

Sir, – Eric Conway (August 1st) misses the significance of the words of Pope Francis on homosexuality. While it is true they do not represent a change in teaching, the completely different and new pastoral tone is very significant to gay Catholics everywhere. At long last gay Catholics do not need to hide at the back of our churches at Mass, just as once black Catholics did in the United Stares. Thank you, Francis! – Yours, etc,

Rev DONAL GODFREY, S J,

The University of

San Francisco Jesuit

Community,

Turk Blvd,

San Francisco,

California, US.

Woo! Teh Gheys need no longer hide at the back of the metaphorical bus as it were!
This is real progress :rolleyes:

And yeah it does say 'United Stares'

robindch

endacl wrote: »

Whatever happened to 'let there be no compulsion in religion'?

Context, endacl, context.

Hotblack Desiato

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/babies-given-away-live-on-air-in-pakistani-talk-show-1.1482056

Hussain is one of Pakistan’s most popular talk show hosts. During his marathon broadcasts, he cooks, interviews clerics and celebrities, entertains children and hosts game shows. He usually gives prizes such as motorbikes, mobile phones and land deeds to audience members who answer questions about Islam. However, at the beginning of the holy Muslim month of Ramadan, when television stations battle fiercely for ratings, Hussain astonished Pakistan when he presented two families with babies.

:eek:

In 2008, Hussain hosted scholars who called for the deaths of Ahmadis, a persecuted religious sect in Pakistan. Within a day, two prominent Ahmadis had been shot dead.

Penn

ninja900 wrote: »

Letter in today's IT:



Woo! Teh Gheys need no longer hide at the back of the metaphorical bus as it were!
This is real progress :rolleyes:

And yeah it does say 'United Stares'

They can sit up the front at Mass now, but they'll still be told they're sinners and are going to go to Hell for engaging in homosexual activity

"If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there's no progress." - Malcolm X

endacl

robindch wrote: »

Context, endacl, context.

The context is the feckin' Koran!!

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This page makes me sad: https://www.facebook.com/FreedomFromSocialism

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=257464737711519&set=pb.224941314297195.-2207520000.1375484637.&type=3&theater

For ****s sake.

Sulla Felix

Any chance of a screenie? I don't venture onto failface. :pac:

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It's basically this image: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/1011143_257464737711519_1380083326_n.jpg

With a whole bunch of yanks going "omg so true, the founding fathers were so right".

I pointed out to them:

Religion has no place in politics, and that was the opinion of the founding fathers. This quote is a complete fabrication - it is bull**** and you are all ****ing idiots for believing it.

See here, you uneducated buffoons: http://books.google.com/books?id=rhgOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA209#v=onepage&q&f=true

Sulla Felix

[-0-] wrote: »

It's basically this image: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/1011143_257464737711519_1380083326_n.jpg

With a whole bunch of yanks going "omg so true, the founding fathers were so right".

I pointed out to them:

Sounds like they're ripe for trapping with Hitler quotes.

recedite

ninja900 wrote: »

Letter in today's IT:

While it is true they do not represent a change in teaching, the completely different and new pastoral tone is very significant to gay Catholics everywhere...

Look at it from their point of view (the Vatican's) They have been promoting this bull$hit doctrine for hundreds of years, and during this time most people supported it. Now people have turned against it. They are in the same position as they were when most people turned against slavery, but the church had previously been using the bible to justify it. They can't just do a u-turn, because they claim to represent unchanging truth and infallibility.
So they adopt a "new pastoral tone" without any actual change in "the teaching".
Gradually and sneakily, the old teaching will be disregarded in this new context. The rate of change in the papal tone will, coincidentally, mirror the rate of change in public opinion on the subject of the dreaded ghey (while lagging behind by a couple of decades)

Gbear

recedite wrote: »

Look at it from their point of view (the Vatican's) They have been promoting this bull$hit doctrine for hundreds of years, and during this time most people supported it. Now people have turned against it. They are in the same position as they were when most people turned against slavery, but the church had previously been using the bible to justify it. They can't just do a u-turn, because they claim to represent unchanging truth and infallibility.
So they adopt a "new pastoral tone" without any actual change in "the teaching".
Gradually and sneakily, the old teaching will be disregarded in this new context. The rate of change in the papal tone will, coincidentally, mirror the rate of change in public opinion on the subject of the dreaded ghey (while lagging behind by a couple of decades)

And in 100 years time they'll deny they were ever homophobic and pretend they were the one's behind the civil rights movement.

Brian Shanahan

Gbear wrote: »

And in 100 years time they'll deny they were ever homophobic and pretend they were the one's behind the civil rights movement.

Most loudly when people point out their past (and current hidden) homophobia, and opposition to civil rights.

They'll probably lionise the Latin American liberation theologists, conveniently forgetting that they fed them en masse to the juntas ruling there at that time.

robindch

Pro-Pussy Riot priest murdered in Russia

Apparently, the priest also objected to the close ties between the orthodox church and the Russian state. A man who is possibly disturbed has been detained.

http://www.thejournal.ie/pussy-riot-priest-murdered-1024019-Aug2013/

TheJournal wrote:

A MAN STABBED to death a Russian priest who was deeply critical of Orthodox Church leadership and had supported the activist punk rock group Pussy Riot, police said today. Pavel Adelgeim, 75, was found dead late Monday in the northwestern Pskov region with multiple stab wounds, regional police told AFP.

A man, born in 1986, was arrested on suspicion of murdering the priest but inflicted stab wounds upon himself when he was detained. He has now been hospitalised and investigators are waiting to interrogate him. According to initial information, the young man was acquainted with the priest and may have even been staying with him as a guest at the time of the murder. The motive is unclear.

Adelgeim, a former religious dissident who had been imprisoned under Soviet rule, had in recent years in blogs and newspaper articles been hugely critical of the powerful leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church. For a religious figure he had been unusually vocal in his support for Pussy Riot, two of whose members are serving two year prison camp terms for an illegal performance in a Moscow church.

Pussy Riot’s February, 2012 performance in the Church of Christ the Saviour in Moscow denounced the links between the Russian Orthodox Church and President Vladimir Putin. In 2012, Adelgeim joined hundreds of other prominent Russians in signing a letter urging Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill to show mercy towards the imprisoned Pussy Riot members.

“The women have unmasked the lie of the Russian Orthodox Church and its unnatural bond with the Russian Federation,” he wrote in a recent blog entry.

robindch

In a surprise move, religious people disagree with scientists. This time over the moon.

http://rt.com/news/muslims-observatory-lunar-month-110/

Russia Today wrote:

Muslim scholars in the Caucasus are locked in a heated dispute with scientists at Azerbaijan’s Shamakhi Observatory – over the lunar cycle. They say an opinion of the faithful wasn’t taken into account when “setting the date” for the next new moon.

The furor erupted after Khydyr Mikhailov, deputy director of the observatory, announced that the new moon would appear during the night of August 6-7 at 2:52am, Azerbaijan’s APA News reported.

According to the Muslim religious calendar, the new moon’s appearance will mark the end of the holy month of Ramadan.

The announcement provoked a storm of criticism, with some Muslim clergy arguing that the observatory data could only be approximate.

"It is known to Allah alone,” said Haji Fuad Nurullah, deputy chairman of the Caucasus Muslims Office.

“If Allah does not renew the moon, how can people know about it in advance? How can they guess? Like the observatory, they can perform calculations using mathematical calculations, and this is only possible together with us," Nurullah said.

The Baku-based Caucasus Muslims Office, the supreme spiritual and administrative body of Muslims in the Caucasus, earlier presented its own calendar, according to which the last day of the month of Ramadan falls on August 8. Ramadan is the month of fasting when devout Muslims forego eating and drinking during daylight hours and spend their time in prayer.

According to the Islamic, or Hijri, lunar calendar, months last 29 or 30 days. A new month begins when the new moon’s crescent becomes visible in the sky. In some Muslim countries, the Hijri calendar is officially recognized.

In Azerbaijan, the majority of the population is Muslim, but the country’s Constitution stipulates that the state is secular.

kylith

Ah, for the love of Mike..... We've been predicting the phases of the moon, as a species, since long before the Abrahamic religions were a twinkle in some bastard's eye, now it's a matter of religious fecking opinion?

Pherekydes

We've had over 50 billion new moons and this guy still thinks Allah renews it?

The mind boggles...

Nodin

robindch wrote: »

In a surprise move, religious people disagree with scientists. This time over the moon.

http://rt.com/news/muslims-observatory-lunar-month-110/

"It is known to Allah alone,” said Haji Fuad Nurullah, deputy chairman of the
Caucasus Muslims Office.

“If Allah does not renew the moon, how can
people know about it in advance? How can they guess? Like the observatory, they can perform calculations using mathematical calculations, and this is only possible together with us," Nurullah said.

....the root of the problem there, and its not theology.