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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭OK-Cancel-Apply


    Sad, yes. But how mind-f*cked would he already have to be by his parents to kill him self over Christianity?

    That tabloids do have it in for Islam (and dem foreigners with their foreign ways!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,639 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    :eek:
    DID YOU KNOW THESE FACTS?
    I SURE DIDNT TILL NOW
    Death is certain but the Bible speaks about untimely death!
    Make a personal reflection about this.....

    It is written in the Bible (Galatians 6:7):
    'Be not deceived; God is not mocked:
    for whatsoever a man sow,

    that shall he also reap.
    Here are some men and women
    who mocked God :
    John Lennon (Singer):
    Some years before, during his interview with an American Magazine, he
    said:
    'Christianity will end, it will disappear.
    I do not have to argue about
    that. I am certain.
    Jesus was ok, but his subjects were too simple, today we are more famous
    than Him' (1966).
    Lennon, after saying that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus
    Christ, was shot six times.
    Tancredo Neves (President of Brazil ):
    During the Presidential campaign, he said if he got 500,000 votes from
    his party, not even God would remove him from Presidency.
    Sure he got the votes, but he got sick a day before being made
    President, then he died.
    Cazuza (Bi-sexual Brazilian composer, singer and poet):
    During A show in Canecio ( Rio de Janeiro),
    while smoking his cigarette, he puffed out some smoke into the air and
    said:'God, that's for you.'
    He died at the age of 32 of LUNG CANCER in a horrible manner.
    The man who built the Titanic
    After the construction of Titanic, a reporter asked him how safe the
    Titanic would be.
    With an ironic tone he said:
    'Not even God can sink it'
    The result: I think you all know what happened to the Titanic
    Marilyn Monroe (Actress)
    She was visited by Billy Graham during a presentation of a show.
    He said the Spirit of God had sent him to preach to her.
    After hearing what the Preacher had to say, she said:
    'I don't need your Jesus'.
    A week later, she was found dead in her apartment
    Bon Scott (Singer)
    The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang:
    'Don't stop me; I'm going down all the way, down the highway to hell'.

    On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been
    choked by his own vomit.
    Campinas (IN 2005)
    In Campinas , Brazil a group of friends, drunk, went to pick up a
    friend.....
    The mother accompanied her to the car and was so worried about the
    drunkenness of her friends and she said to the daughter holding her
    hand, who was already seated in the car:
    'My Daughter, Go With God And May He Protect You.'
    She responded: 'Only If He (God) Travels In The Trunk, Cause Inside
    Here.....It's Already Full '
    Hours later, news came by that they had been involved in a fatal
    accident, everyone had died,
    the car could not be recognized what type of car it had been, but
    surprisingly, the trunk was intact.
    The police said there was no way the trunk could have remained intact.
    To their surprise, inside the trunk was a crate of eggs, none was broken

    Christine Hewitt (Jamaican Journalist and entertainer) said the Bible
    (Word of God) was the worst book ever written.
    In June 2006 she was found burnt beyond recognition in her motor
    vehicle.
    Many more important people have forgotten that there is no other name
    that was given so much authority as the name of Jesus.
    Many have died, but only Jesus died and rose again, and he is still
    alive.
    'Jesus'
    PS: If it was a joke, you would have sent it to everyone. So are you
    going to have courage to send this?.
    I have done my part, Jesus said
    'If you are embarrassed about me,
    I will also be embarrassed about you before my father.'
    You are my 8 in 8 seconds. I am not breaking this. No way!
    I'M TOLD THIS WORKS!!!!! Bishop T.D. Jakes '8 Second Prayer.' Just
    repeat this prayer and see how God moves!!
    'Lord, I love you and I need you, come into my heart, and bless me, my
    family, my home, and my friends, in Jesus' name. Amen.'

    Sweet zombie jesus!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    What type of car was it? I'm always putting eggs in the boot and finding them broken, this could really get me out of a weekly spot with the wife.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Sounds like scare-mongering to me, terrorism almost - if you mock God he will kill you. I wouldn't be happy getting such mail in my inbox.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Here are some men and women who mocked God
    Stand back everybody...

    God's a sissy!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    It is pretty uncanny though.

    Of the millions of people around teh globe who have some degree of fame some of them both said nasty things about god AND died young.

    Wooo, spooky.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    Wow, this chain mail has really opened my eyes! No more shall I slander the lord, because in EVERY one of those cases it was almighty GOD who killed those people. REPENT SINNERS!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    tl;dr.

    People are hardly going to badmouth God after they get killed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Ice_Box


    If God is a murderer then we should jail all those who worship Him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    It is pretty uncanny though.

    Of the millions of people around teh globe who have some degree of fame some of them both said nasty things about god AND died young.

    Wooo, spooky.
    Perhaps it should go in the "what are the chances?" thread in the christianity board.

    MrP


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    Ice_Box wrote: »
    If God is a murderer then we should jail all those who worship Him.

    Shhhhh...meet me round back in five minutes...we have much to discuss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    This is clearly some sort of atheist sockpuppet...
    The idea is so insane that I refuse to believe people like this are allowed to walk the streets.

    What criteria does god choose who to kill?
    People who mock him? ok... but we know lots of people that mock God.
    We also know faithful Christians that still get lung cancer...

    God seems to pick random things to do...
    He'll help one person on the side of the road, a friend you've not seen in years happens by...
    He'll kill one mocker, but not the next.
    He'll heal one person, but not any amputees ever.

    I really think that this sort of thing is not meant to scare people into worship but rather to make believers look more bonkers...
    I have to believe that, because I don't want to believe that people are actually thinking like this.
    then again... youtube comments...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Heart-warming Christian Chain Mail I just received

    Moved to this thread.

    The only place where it might live out a (spuriously) relevant existence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    kiffer wrote: »
    then again... youtube comments...
    I've seen the space shuttle ass hole

    Look at the shape of the space shuttle...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    Ice_Box wrote: »
    If God is a murderer then we should jail all those who worship Him.

    If I were to deliver a threat for a crime boss, would I be guilty of a crime?
    For example, "The Don says give me the gems by Sunday or He and the boys will come round and kill you, your family and your dog."

    I think I would be...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    pH wrote: »
    Gifted pupil killed himself 'after his school sidelined Christianity for alternative religions'

    I'd say he killed himself after pretty much everything that happened to him. Which just goes to show that there's a causal relationship between life and death.

    The Daily Mail will be calling for a ban presently.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Seems god took a break from healing the sick in Lourdes this year to spend some time giving pilgrims acute gastroenteritis:

    http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=19025

    Grimly, health officials believe that a group of workers and patients from a Dutch mental health institute visited Lourdes and brought the bug back home with them, where the disease spread rapidly leaving around 120 people sick and four dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    there's a causal relationship between life and death.

    The Daily Mail will be calling for a ban presently.

    A ban on life? But, I need that to live! :eek:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    From the drawer marked "batshit crazy", comes a means of preventing suicide in the military from one Rick Warren, the beard who's been asked to mouth some platitudes at Obama's inauguration next month:

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/30/105157/02/379/667800

    Charles Darwin is a selfish ass, and Karl Marx was a "philanthropist", And so on.

    .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    Tell them god is on their side and they'll go to heaven for doing his work and you can make them do anything.

    You don't really want soldiers that ask questions either. Unquestioning obedience to orders given by a man you've never met, Unquestioning faith is an ideal to many military minds.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    "Man is the centre of the universe" should be under 'Design'. No really.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    The Hazards of Confession?

    Florida Woman Says Former Church Plans to Make Her Sins Public

    A 49-year-old Florida woman says her former church is threatening to reveal her sins to its congregation after learning that she is in a "sexually immoral relationship."
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,469928,00.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    This just doesn't seem fair, God visits you with important messages for the human race, and the Vatican church sends in the inquisition!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/catholics-ordered-to-keep-quiet-over-virgin-visions-1332016.html

    "If the visionary is considered credible they will ultimately be questioned by one or more demonologists and exorcists to exclude the possibility that Satan is hiding behind the apparitions in order to deceive the faithful."


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Hope they check the coffee-intake too:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7827761.stm


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    pH wrote: »
    "If the visionary is considered credible they will ultimately be questioned by one or more demonologists and exorcists to exclude the possibility that Satan is hiding behind the apparitions in order to deceive the faithful."
    pke_meter.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    All I know is that the next time the Virgin Mary appears to me, I'm keeping quiet.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    The pension fund for God's chosen people collapses:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0115/presbyterian.html?RTEMAILID


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    robindch wrote: »
    The pension fund for God's chosen people collapses:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0115/presbyterian.html?RTEMAILID

    There's a prayer for that!

    As the recession bites the Church of England publishes new prayers for people affected by redundancy
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article5461150.ece


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Goduznt Xzst


    Man I love how worked up the reporter is getting in this interview :D

    http://www.clipstr.com/videos/BrianFlemmingOnFoxNews/


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Saudi court sentences 75-year-old woman to lashes

    Those of you ladyfolk going to the A&A drinks beware of "mingling" with men! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    Pilot who paused to pray in emergency gets 10 years

    Tue, Mar 24, 2009
    A Tunisian pilot who paused to pray instead of taking emergency measures before crash-landing his plane, killing 16 people, has been sentenced to 10 years in jail by an Italian court along with his co-pilot.
    The 2005 crash at sea off Sicily left survivors swimming for their lives, some clinging to a piece of the fuselage that remained floating after the ATR turbo-prop aircraft splintered upon impact.
    A fuel-gauge malfunction was partly to blame but prosecutors also said the pilot succumbed to panic, praying out loud instead of following emergency procedures and then opting to crash-land the plane instead trying to reach a nearby airport.
    Another five employees of Tuninter, a subsidiary of Tunisair, were sentenced to between eight and nine years in jail by the court, in a verdict handed down yesterday.
    The seven accused, who were not in court, will not spend time in jail until the appeals process has been exhausted.
    Reuters
    © 2009 irishtimes.com

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭2Scoops


    Pilot who paused to pray in emergency gets 10 years

    I wondered whether this would appear first here or in the 'persecuted church' thread. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Overblood




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    ^
    Was just about to post that
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vPnMbLr5nc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    robindch wrote: »
    The pension fund for God's chosen people collapses:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0115/presbyterian.html?RTEMAILID

    Ulster says 'O No'


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    A friend of mine just told me about this:
    http://www.examiner.com/x-7145-Detroit-Mental-Health-Examiner~y2009m4d18-HFCC-Murder-Suicide

    http://www.freep.com/article/20090413/NEWS02/90413033/?imw=Y

    Long story short, youtuber anti-atheism creationist stalks and murders a girl then kills himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭OK-Cancel-Apply


    5uspect wrote: »
    A friend of mine just told me about this:
    http://www.examiner.com/x-7145-Detroit-Mental-Health-Examiner~y2009m4d18-HFCC-Murder-Suicide

    http://www.freep.com/article/20090413/NEWS02/90413033/?imw=Y

    Long story short, youtuber anti-atheism creationist stalks and murders a girl then kills himself.

    Yeah I've been watching theamazingatheist, venomfangx and jezuzfreek777 talk about this for the last few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    5uspect wrote: »
    A friend of mine just told me about this:
    http://www.examiner.com/x-7145-Detroit-Mental-Health-Examiner~y2009m4d18-HFCC-Murder-Suicide

    http://www.freep.com/article/20090413/NEWS02/90413033/?imw=Y

    Long story short, youtuber anti-atheism creationist stalks and murders a girl then kills himself.

    Yeah I noticed this the day after it happened... poor chap... suffered from depression and then when it all fell apart for him he went out and killed some poor girl and himself...

    I found this video (it's mocking him but listen to what he says, it's from last year...)


    I wonder if he lost his faith... and then took the whole "without God why would you not go on a killing spree..." line a little to seriously because of his depression ...


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Crazy stuff indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭Rev Hellfire


    kiffer wrote: »
    I wonder if he lost his faith... and then took the whole "without God why would you not go on a killing spree..." line a little to seriously because of his depression ...
    He's obviously an unwell individual as born out by his subsequent actions, I must say the video comes across as a rather petty piece of work all things considered.

    Crazy people do crazy things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭OK-Cancel-Apply


    Ohh THATS the guy! Damn... I've seen him before and always thought he had some mental issues. I've spoken to him in the comments section a couple of times. I do remember that he looked to the likes of Jezuzfreek and Venomfangx for guidance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    He's obviously an unwell individual as born out by his subsequent actions, I must say the video comes across as a rather petty piece of work all things considered.

    Crazy people do crazy things.

    Yup. poor chap... years of depression take there toll. I agree that the video is petty (it was made long before his death...) but tony's account is closed now so I couldn't find the original that it was made from...
    Clearly a very conflicted individual... in hind sight it's even more obvious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭OK-Cancel-Apply


    In one video, he said that atheists are a "group of people who are mentally retarded.

    I remember that video, but instead of the word 'retarded', he actually spelled it 'Retard it'. I kid you not. And he really did mean to say 'retarded'. The irony...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭ZorbaTehZ


    AP wrote:
    Israeli official: Swine flu name offensive

    5 hours ago

    JERUSALEM (AP) — The outbreak of swine flu should be renamed "Mexican" influenza in deference to Muslim and Jewish sensitivities over pork, said an Israeli health official Monday.

    Deputy Health Minister Yakov Litzman said the reference to pigs is offensive to both religions and "we should call this Mexican flu and not swine flu," he told a news conference at a hospital in central Israel.

    Both Judaism and Islam consider pigs unclean and forbid the eating of pork products.

    Scientists are unsure where the new swine flu virus originally emerged, though it was identifed first in the United States. They say there is nothing about the virus that makes it "Mexican" and worry such a label would be stigmatizing.

    Two Israelis who recently visited Mexico have been hospitalized with symptoms of the flu. Health authorities have not yet confirmed whether they actually have the virus.

    The current strain of swine flu is thought to have originated in Mexico where more than 100 people have been killed by the disease so far.

    Laboratories in the U.S. and Canada have confirmed that of the samples tested so far, the swine flu virus in Mexico and U.S. appear to be the same.

    lolzers :rolleyes:


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    That is the stupidest thing I've heard in ages.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    I was going to say that you couldn't invent this kind of stuff, but obviously, one can.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Ted Haggard, the megachurch preacher who became the fastest ever ex-leader of the 30-million strong National Association of Evangelicals, showed up last weekend at Steven Furtick's megachurch to give a no-holes barred interview. In it, Haggard said that he was very ashamed that people got hurt in the scandal and that he didn't think it would ever happen again. Previously, Haggard had said that he couldn't place his sexuality into "stereotypical boxes" and that he was "content" with the missus:

    http://www.christianpost.com/church/General/2009/04/megachurch-hosts-no-holds-barred-interview-with-ted-haggard-27/index.html

    Furtick, meanwhile, said that Haggard's story is a "good reminder of what's at stake when you flirt with sin"(*)

    (*) Rumors suggest that Haggard got past the flirting stage pretty quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    robindch wrote: »
    Ted Haggard [...] showed up last weekend at Steven Furtick's megachurch to give a no-holes barred interview.

    Now now Robin, the article is headlined 'no-holds-barred'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭cavedave


    Support for terror suspect torture differs among the faithful (here)

    The more often Americans go to church, the more likely they are to support the torture of suspected terrorists


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