History - The Response

Rockerette

Kovik wrote:

I just want to point this out too: In the Dictatorship and Democracy section of the paper, a lot of you seemed to have answered the question on Stalin using the show trials. The show trials are placed in the politics and administration aspect of the course while the question cited economy and society as the perspective, meaning socialism in one country, collectivisation and reform of working conditions. The syllabus doesn't consider the show trials to be a component of social or economic history in Russia

But ultimately, using your brain, the show trials clearly were some reflection of society. Stalin could do what he wanted, arrest who he wanted, force terror upon the people. it all started off with Ryutin opposing forced collectivisation, and Kirov's murder af he spoke out against Ryutin being killed --> a result of one of Stalin's economic policies no? and the society these people lived in, under Stalin's (ridiculously paranoid..) influece?



I didnt base my whole essay on the show trials, they got 2 paragraphs i think.




I dont think case studies should be learnt solely on their own, they need to be taken in the context of the whole period.. im not saying thats what youre thinking, but its just a general point. from a few people i've been talkign to, they seemed to expect standard clear questions based purely on the case studies, eg. How did the Moscow Show Trials reflect Stalin's Reign Of Terror or something.. or Give an account of the Jarrow March..




Tellox, it was hardly a "whinge" about tips.
Why would teachers/radio know any better?? its just OPINION, and speculation. and perhaps hope..
1916 Rising? that woulda been so predictable..

but these "tips" arent based on fact.

im sorry, but it happened in Irish aswell, people were "tipping" what poems to come on, and they never did.
but why should they?? just because teachers expect them to.





Again, im sure i've pissed people off, but thats all just my opinion. im sure most of you disagree and will let me know about it..

GrumPy

Rockerette wrote:

Again, im sure i've pissed people off, but thats all just my opinion. im sure most of you disagree and will let me know about it..

I think I'm in love!!

Happy you felt you did well in paper, but I found it difficult, lets all agree to disagree.


I DISAGREE!!!1

Rockerette

Irish GrumPy wrote:

I think I'm in love!!

Happy you felt you did well in paper, but I found it difficult, lets all agree to disagree.


I DISAGREE!!!1

deal :rolleyes:
*shakes hand*


im sure if i wasnt happy with it i'd be complaining too... but i was SO worried about it beforehand, i was just delighted i could asnwer questions .


hopefully, for all involved, with all this discontent it'll be marked easier making us all get higher grades than we expect

d4gurl

Irish GrumPy wrote:

Farm boy hehe. Just for you d4girl.

good farm boy!haha now go buy me somthing pretty

I DISAGREE TOO

it was a big poo of a paper!!! oh about the show trialis i just said that they were so inhumane and showed the society how cruel he was and how it instilled fear in everyone and how everyone was affected by it blah! i brought it into the question rather than put it in as a seperate random paragraph hopefull that workd because that question is meant to be my best!

GrumPy

Rockerette wrote:

deal :rolleyes:
*shakes hand*

Opposites attract I can see it now, the two of us argueing about the history paper into the wee hours of the morning, day in, day out.

Perfect relationship tbh.

I dont really care about History now anyway, I definately passed, and my research topic thing was pretty good, So anything over a C2 I'll be happy with.

nollaig

cept that i cudnt think of any faults of parnell

His stammer was one.

aah, it'll be marked easy on ye anyways because its the first year of a new course, always an advantage

Rockerette

Irish GrumPy wrote:

Opposites attract I can see it now, the two of us argueing about the history paper into the wee hours of the morning, day in, day out.

Perfect relationship tbh.

we can tell the grandkids about it... hehe






(just once you know that........ im right )

Attractive Nun

nollaig wrote:

His stammer was one.

aah, it'll be marked easy on ye anyways because its the first year of a new course, always an advantage

I said his protestantism created some suspicion amongst Catholics. Something about his affair with Kittie O'Shea. His links to the land league and other violent nationalist organisations. His image, contrary to Butt, as a non-gentlemanly figure in Westminster. And I think that's all I could remember.

Rockerette

that makes sense ^

i left the document till the end, cos i knew i could do the essays better than the question on parnell, so running out of time wouldnt be such a big deal

i wrote a pile of crap for it really.

good things:
-being irish he understood the irish people better than say, British politicians
-passionate about his cause, did his best for it, remained loyal to it.. (*bluffing* )
-good orator, gained a lot of support for his party, convinced the Irish Home Rule would be good for them ( ?! *gamble..* )

bad things:
ahahaha..
eeh.
he got the irish people's hopes up but they would then be dashed when the Conservatives got into power

Pathetic attempt!? yes!

and just as they were being handed up, i mentioned something about Kitty O'Shea, was it she who wrote to Gladstone? asking him his opinion about Home Rule, before the elcetion?
maybe not... but i gave it a lash.. hehe


It was a fair question, i just hadnt prepared it. i was hopinh for something on the Unionist opposition throughout, or the involvement of the 2 British Parties, aaah well..

Attractive Nun

It was Kittie O'Shea that wrote to Gladstone, yes. I recall having written an essay on "Parnell: the astute politician", so I basically just did that for his positive features.

Rockerette

aah ok, thanks.
pretty crap "strength" but i mentioned his relationship with Kitty OShea, in terms of writing to Gladstone.

that was the only question i was a bit stumped by :eek:

Johnner111

i thought it was alright - though i agree there were some funny questions - like a question on CnaG - never thought of that - just threw two halves of two essays in - minty! the case studies were all in there indirectly though i thought - there was britain for jarrow on dic and dem - shocked the treaty negotiations weren't there - glad i didn't bother with them now! Gotta love havin that paper over tho - right case study aswell - 86 elections - gotta love them!

nollaig

I said his protestantism created some suspicion amongst Catholics. Something about his affair with Kittie O'Shea. His links to the land league and other violent nationalist organisations. His image, contrary to Butt, as a non-gentlemanly figure in Westminster. And I think that's all I could remember.

Thats pretty damn good.

Were there other questions that ye could have taken other than this one? Or was it compulsory? Been a few years since I did the leaving!

casanova_kid

I just said that Parnell's weakness was that he couyldn't keep it in his trousers.

Rockerette

nollaig wrote:

Were there other questions that ye could have taken other than this one? Or was it compulsory? Been a few years since I did the leaving!

compulsary, 40 mark question

nollaig

compulsary, 40 mark question

ooh, Thats nasty. Back in my day, there were no compulsory questions:D .

I wouldnt have chosen to do tthat question on Parnell either if it came up on my paper.

Kovik

Rockerette wrote:

But ultimately, using your brain, the show trials clearly were some reflection of society. Stalin could do what he wanted, arrest who he wanted, force terror upon the people. it all started off with Ryutin opposing forced collectivisation, and Kirov's murder af he spoke out against Ryutin being killed --> a result of one of Stalin's economic policies no? and the society these people lived in, under Stalin's (ridiculously paranoid..) influece?

No, Stalin used Kirov's murder and Ryutin's opposition to justify the purges to the NKVD. They were motivated purely by paranoia and fear. And they had no effect on Russian society at all. The Russians loved the show trials. It was well orchestrated propaganda. The only impact the show trials made was on foreign policy due to it worrying potential supporters of collective security.

So yes, I used my brain.

In the question about Parnell, I said his weaknesses were that he very seldom consulted with the other party members and acted almost unilaterally. This caused jealousy to emerge within the party and caused a rift during the plan of campaign when many MPs sided against him. The factioning of the party resulted in it blowing up during the O'Shea thing.

Fabio

I thought it was a fairly good paper which gave oppurtunities to all if you had learnt your stuff like

Mad Cyril

Couldn't have asked for fairer questions but I ran out of time in the end.

Just on Parnells weaknesses and strengths.
I had strengths: organisation and leadership-reorganisind the Home Rule Mp's and creating the IPP, his political astuteness- Manipulating balance of power -using the land league to develop IPP grassroots-Dumping the Land League in favour of the National League which he controlled etc etc, next his ability to balance moderates and extremists and a couple of other points.

Weaknesses: Egotistical, selfish, refusal to step down after scandal led to his own downfall and that of the IPP. Also callous and mannipulative-used the land issue to further his political agenda and had little real concern for the problems of the irish people etc etc.

Thought the documents were very good over all. Essays I did were CnG in teh partition and soverignty section, Stalin on dictatorships and democracy and only got just over two pages on racial conflict in the states because of time. That will bring me down a fair bit but I'm fairly confident in the rest of that paper and my research topic so hopefully a decent B. Down from an A! in the mocks though:mad:

ahsurewhynot

casanova_kid wrote:

I just said that Parnell's weakness was that he couyldn't keep it in his trousers.

That is exactly what i said!