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Homebond cover with one-off house build

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  • 19-06-2006 4:25pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭


    Can anyone tell me what the norm is with regards to building
    contractors taking on (or shying away from) homebond cover
    for a one off house ?

    So far my understanding is that some builders will avoid providing
    homebond cover for their works when it comes to once off
    houses in the countryside whereas they might be fully registered
    with homebond for larger housing developments,etc. I'm also
    told that if the builder won't do homebond at the outset then
    it falls on the employer/future householder/customer to arrange
    a much closer level of supervision by their building engineers
    (adding more cost to the project). I believe that certificates
    of compliance, etc and various guarantees have to be furnished
    during the build if this is the route taken.

    What makes it awkward in the first place for the main contractor
    to provide homebond cover for one off houses they build.
    Do they need to pay a higher sub to HomeBond? Does it entail
    a lot of extra hassle/paperwork on them. Is it a combination of
    both ?

    The situation I'm looking at is a very reputable builder but
    just wondered if lack of homebond as part of the standard
    building contract for a one off house was common or rare
    in practice. Obviously I'm taking some legal advice on it just
    to cover all eventualities.


    ~ipl


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  • Registered Users Posts: 46,130 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    If the contractor registers your house under the Homebond scheme it will cost you a bit more as the cover is based on a percentage of the overall construction cost. Some contractors tend to shy away from this because of the extra paperwork involved.

    No matter what route you choose you will have to get a cert. of compliance in any event and if you are tied to a mortgage then you will have to get someone to issue the stage payment certs. even if it is covered with Homebond


  • Registered Users Posts: 267 ✭✭AdrianR


    What you need is a bonded architect/engineer, it doesn't have to be homebond, as Muffler pointed out they will sign off the stage payments and are therefore guaranteeing that the work carried out is up to spec, and they will have suitable insurance to back it up. You would hire this engineer yourself if it's a self build, with a contractor I would assume the contractor would either hire a bonded architect or pay homebond to supply the service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭iplogger1


    AdrianR wrote:
    What you need is a bonded architect/engineer, it doesn't have to be homebond, as Muffler pointed out they will sign off the stage payments and are therefore guaranteeing that the work carried out is up to spec, and they will have suitable insurance to back it up. You would hire this engineer yourself if it's a self build, with a contractor I would assume the contractor would either hire a bonded architect or pay homebond to supply the service.
    Thanks for the replies Muffler, Adrian

    We already have a structural/civil engineer of very good repute
    (I am almost certain he is bonded, etc). He provided the
    house plans and one of his staff handled the planning
    application and another did the pegging of the site to
    mark out house/garage location.

    The project is being carried out by a main contractor and not
    direct labour. The builder isn't providing Homebond or Premier
    cover. We always assumed our engineer would be doing
    site visits,etc. I understand what is needed now is a higher
    degree of supervision and signoff from the engineer than
    I might have originally figured. I need to get a quote from
    the engineer for this additional work. We had assumed
    Homebond cover. I don't think the main contractor has
    any intention of employing the engineer. We are the
    employer of the engineer as we are the client and
    house purchaser(s).

    I spoke to legal folks and it seems this is pretty normal
    stuff with one off houses. The mortgage isn't that large
    so next I need to see whether Bank/lending institution
    is happy with bonded engineer providing certs/signoffs
    at each stage payment stage of build. I imagine it will
    be fine.. my only unknown is how much this puts an
    additional cost loading on the overall project.

    I'll have a clearer idea when I manage to get hold of
    the engineer on phone.

    ~ipl


  • Registered Users Posts: 46,130 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Your engineer will have to give you written confirmation that he will be supervising the works together with his PI number. This goes to your solicitor who includes it with the mortgage docs.

    Even if its only a small or partial mortgage make sure you have him there from start to finish.

    And dont forget to submit the commencement notice


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