Another ***** dealer taking the pi$$

peasant

So I noticed this car on carzone on the 18th of June
03 Fiat Stilo Multiwagon 1.9 JTD, 60 k miles. Well its a Fiat ...bad reputation ...zero resale value ...but hey ...it's advertised for 7 k.

So I ring up on Monday ...well the car isn't here yet, he'll have it on Wednesday, ring again then.
On Wednesday I ring again ...car still not there, will come in next week. Meanwhile the ad in carzone is refreshed, still at 7 k.
At the end of the week, having done some research on Fiat Stilos I ring again ...asking would they be interested in trading in a Suzuki Jimny ...oh yes, very intersted indeed, they have good demand for Jimny's. So I send an email with a few pictures. Ring again on Monday ...based on the pictures they would offer me 4.5k for the Jimny ...not great, but as the Stilo is only 7k I agree to this, pending inspection of the car. Car is still not there , by the way but will be on Thursday, get serviced and be ready for viewing Fri/Sat.

So yesterday I ring again to get some details (after all I will probably buy this car and drive it straight home) and ....ahh sorry ,bit of bad news there...we got the price wrong ...the car is now 9k ...your Jimny of course stays at 4.5

What??

I check on carzone ...yepp ...they've updated it to 9k.

So yesterday evening I send them another mail, telling them that I'm no longer interested, as I can get other cars for that money that don't have the bad reputation or the poor resale value that the Stilo carries but they could contact me if they decide to all of a sudden "revise" their price to the original offer.

Then I get an email back ...and I quote word for word.

I'm sorry that you are no longer youre interested. but if you want a good bilt car, why do you drive a jimmy in the first place

Bloody cheek of them.


Well ...the least I can do is share this wonderful experience with you.

And here is the ad (and the outfit) in question:

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carid=451572

kluivert

Not worth 9k

Henry Ford III

A jokeshop. Forget about it.

"but if you want a good bilt car, why do you drive a jimmy in the first place" -- I love the dealers spelling, grammar and punctuation

Did you suggest his FIAT was poorly built?

Wishbone Ash

Henry Ford III wrote:

I love the dealers spelling, grammar and punctuation

QUOTE]

You forgot to put the apostrophe on "dealer's".

peasant

Did you suggest his FIAT was poorly built?

nope ...I said it had a bad reputatiion and poor resale value ...which is true

egan007

The dealer has the right to correct the price.

Average Price for 2003 Fiat Stilo - 4 Dr in Ireland: €11,472 Based on 24 models
- from cbg.ie

9k sounds like a bargain
I've had 2 Fiats - they are great - thank god for a car with personality rather than the mundain crap out there.

If you have such a complex about Fiat and resale they why are you looking for one?

unkel

Not so nice behaviour by the garage. You pretty much had a verbal deal, didn't you after negotiating the trade-in value of the Jimmy?

That said, €7k for the FIAT would have been unrealistically cheap!

peasant

That said, €7k for the FIAT would have been unrealistically cheap!

Thought so too ...that's why I asked about the price several times and the sales guy gave me some story about somebody buying it by mistake (thinking it was automatic) and wanting rid of it quickly.

Anyhow ...even if this was a genuine "mistake" ...the dealer still don't know what they're doing and I would have no confidence in dealing with them.

But the behaviour afterwards is just ridiculous ...

Beruthiel

peasant
have you answered his e-mail?

if not, I insist you send him the following:

"Don't be sorry for me,
I can sell my jimmy, but you will always have grammar, punctuation and spelling issues"

I know it's low, but you'll feel better and that's what is important here

Henry Ford III

Beruthiel wrote:

peasant
have you answered his e-mail?

if not, I insist you send him the following:

"Don't be sorry for me,
I can sell my jimmy, but you will always have grammar, punctuation and spelling issues (and a sh1tebox FIAT)"

I know it's low, but you'll feel better and that's what is important here

Fixed it for you.

tuxy

who is jimmy?

mloc123

That place is a joke, they have a Saxo VTR for €7,450 which is about 1k over what a VTS on same millage/year is making :rolleyes:

colm_mcm

who wants a 80bhp diesel Stilo anyway!

peasant

colm_mcm wrote:

who wants a 80bhp diesel Stilo anyway!

Personally, I wouldn't have minded. 99.9% of my driving is pootling along narrow country lanes ...but for 9 grand it would have to be the 115bhp. At least you would have some hope of selling that on / trading it in a few years down the line.

With 80bhp ...no chance ...

colm_mcm

even the JTD in the Brava was 105bhp

peasant

yeah, but in the Punto ...as in the not available in Ireland 1.9 Punto ...its 80

(no intercooler, no variable geometry turbo , otherwise same engine)

colm_mcm

Yeah but the Brava was around long before the Stilo, and ages before the Stilo MW

peasant

Colm ..you can/could get two different diesels in the Stilo MW ...80 and 115 bhp JTD and lately there even is a 140 bhp Multijet

So the 80 bhp is/was the bottom of the rung poverty spec one

colm_mcm

I'd avoid the 80bhp then, given the very low prices of Stilos, high end models can't be that far away from base spec price wise.

peasant

Still, I probably would have bought it for 7k.

Well ..not now ...

wyndham

I would wager that 7k is what they paid/ are giving for it on a trade and the 2k is their margin and that's where the confusion arose.

SouperComputer

colm_mcm, you need to resize that sig or the "SigPo" will kazam your a$$.

peasant

wyndham wrote:

I would wager that 7k is what they paid/ are giving for it on a trade and the 2k is their margin and that's where the confusion arose.

Which still leaves the fact that I talked and emailed to these people (different people ...same dealer) several times. Always quoting the advertised price of 7 k.

Which then leads to the conclusion that they don't know their backside from their elbow ...now where does that leave you on trusting anything else they tell you ...the likes of mileage, condition, accidents etc that the car might or might not have had.


Be better off buying and selling privately in that case.