Germany

ronbyrne2005

Can the Germans go on to win the tournament despite a dodgy defence?

Lemlin

Other than Italy, it could be argued that all the teams left have a dodgy defence so I don't see why not.

Ruu_Old

I would say they could pull it off, ya!

Rikand

Nein!

MisterAnarchy

Lemlin wrote:

Other than Italy, it could be argued that all the teams left have a dodgy defence so I don't see why not.

France have a solid defence.

ronbyrne2005

MisterAnarchy wrote:

France have a solid defence.

true , if they beat brazil tomorrow i think they'll win the whole thing.

vorbis

this confidence in France is amazing. They won one match against a side that traditionally chokes. Brazil will be far too good for the French.

unkel

vorbis wrote:

Brazil will be far too good for the French.

And Brazil was far too good for the French 8 years ago. But then "things" happened :eek:

I'd go Germany 1 - Brazil 2 in the final. Then again, what do I know?

Chucky the tree

I am confident the italians will do the Germans. They have very quietly moved into the semi's without much fuss. Their defense is excellent. They will just sit back and let the germans come at them and them hit them on the break.

I can see the italians winning it actually. I dont know how i would feel if they did. Seeing totti and de rossi celebrating with a world cup medal would be a nightmare.

unkel

Chucky the tree wrote:

I can see the italians winning it actually. I dont know how i would feel if they did

I was in Italy when they won in '90. Unreal. Cars beeping their horns continuously for 72 hours

I can't see it happen this time though. Against a weak opponent, the winner tends to look great like tonight

MisterAnarchy

unkel wrote:

I was in Italy when they won in '90. Unreal. Cars beeping their horns continuously for 72 hours

I can't see it happen this time though. Against a weak opponent, the winner tends to look great like tonight

What did Italy win in 1990 ?

Chucky the tree wrote:

I can see the italians winning it actually. I dont know how i would feel if they did. Seeing totti and de rossi celebrating with a world cup medal would be a nightmare.

As long as Italy or England dont win it I'll be happy as it will be a victory for positive football.

KdjaCL

Not a chance they have conceded 3 goal and RTE have been raving about the dodgy bdefence so it must be true.....


Seriously tho 3 goals in 5 games terriblle at the back, your all right dodgy defence...........


FFS stop listening and actually watch................


kdjac

zAbbo

Is there any chance the mods could enforce a policy of meaningful thread titles ? (like askaboutmoney.com)

Would be handy

This thread could have been titled 'Will Germany win the World Cup'

It could have been about many different aspects of 'Germany'

Same goes for the Christiano Ronaldo thread.

/end rant

unkel

MisterAnarchy wrote:

What did Italy win in 1990 ?

Ouch, I'm aging much quicker than I'd like. I meant '82. It's hard to believe that was 24 years ago :eek:

Lemlin

MisterAnarchy wrote:

France have a solid defence.

Alot of them are on their last legs and they have Boumsong and Silvestre as cover - enough said.

MisterAnarchy

Lemlin wrote:

Alot of them are on their last legs and they have Boumsong and Silvestre as cover - enough said.

I love the way people describe older players as being on their last legs.
You'd think they were fit for the old folks home.
Gallas is 28, Thuram is 34,Abidal is 26,Sagnol is 29.
Thats an average age of 29.25
The Italian defence tonight had an average age of 29.5 and if Nesta was playing it would be higher.
I dont hear anyone complaining about the Italian Defence being too old .;)

Lemlin

MisterAnarchy wrote:

I love the way people describe older players as being on their last legs.
You'd think they were fit for the old folks home.
Gallas is 28, Thuram is 34,Abidal is 26,Sagnol is 29.
Thats an average age of 29.25
The Italian defence tonight had an average age of 29.5 and if Nesta was playing it would be higher.
I dont hear anyone complaining about the Italian Defence being too old .;)

And what age is Barthez? A defence includes the 'keeper IMO. Compare Barthez and his ability to Buffon.

Don't forget that this French defence is one where Boumsong was getting his game until he lost his place with Newcastle. Or that Thuram gave away a stupid penalty the other evening, one he would never of gave away in the past.

Lex Luthor

I think this is it for Germany. I was confident they'd beat Argentina, not by much and probably the penalty shoot out, but they won't beat Italy.

I think this is the Italians this time around. France could and probably will beat Brazil..Portugal will probably beat England but wouldn't like to say.

I'll go for a Italy v Portugal Final.

eirebhoy

KdjaC wrote:

Not a chance they have conceded 3 goal and RTE have been raving about the dodgy bdefence so it must be true.....


Seriously tho 3 goals in 5 games terriblle at the back, your all right dodgy defence...........


FFS stop listening and actually watch................


kdjac

Unless Huth is so bad that he makes Germany's defence look like amateurs then I don't rate their defence at all. It was terrible before the tournament and I still think it's terrible. Germany are playing at home and put 11 men behind the ball against Argentina.

KdjaCL

eirebhoy wrote:

Unless Huth is really bad that he makes Germany's defence look like amateurs then I don't rate their defence at all. It was terrible before the tournament and I still think it's terrible. Germany are playing at home and put 11 men behind the ball against Argentina.

Worked tho, argentina scored from a set piece.



kdjac

Freedomfighter

Argentina should have gone through. There manager made some crazy subs. And you seen the difference as soon as they were made. Messi was left on the bench and requelme was taken off. De la cruz was brought on and to be honest he would find it hard to get into a championship side. Germany will be knocked out semis.