emo and goth punk

weeder

honestly now whats the **** is the difference except the look of gothpunk there both equally as bad tho

Ruu_Old

I wouldnt have a clue. Music forum tbh.

Limerick Dude

noone really knows anymore.....

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

what happened was a few kids looked at the whole goth 'thing' and thought to themselves 'that's pretty good, but I bet I could be more of a talentless jackass'

Heyes

Limerick Dude wrote:

noone really knows anymore.....

or cares

Limerick Dude

true

Creamy Goodness

let them do what they want tbh...

at least they aren't going around keyying cars or going around looking for fights.

there's a lot worse things they could be doing than their stereotypical moping around and feeling sorry for themselves.

Limerick Dude

Cremo wrote:

let them do what they want tbh...

at least they aren't going around keyying cars or going around looking for fights.

there's a lot worse things they could be doing than their stereotypical moping around and feeling sorry for themselves.

well said

Adam

Meh...

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the Shades

they're melancholy and expressing it with make up, a long fringe and 'emotional' music

every teen deserves something to regret in their later years

Tar.Aldarion

fade_to_grey wrote:

Meh...

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Adam

With 12,000 posts I won't argue with that!

Dudess

Do you mean that Evanescence, Rasmus stuff? Goth - hilarious! If they listened to an album by The Birthday Party they'd run home crying to their mommies!

Tar.Aldarion

That's not the music he means.
That's not goth music, hah.

Karl Hungus

weeder wrote:

gothpunk

Eh?

Goth evolved from the late 70's Post-Punk scene. See bands like Bauhaus, Joy Division, Siouxsie & The Banshees, and so forth, for example.

"Gothpunk" is a new one on me though.

Any comparisons with Emo...

Adam

Yes. Its all one big stupid melting pot of idiots that don't know what they're talking about and label things accordingly. Fools.

honru

There were goth punk (or death rock) bands in the late 70s/early 80s but that term died fairly quick.

Looking at this typical image portrayed in hipster rock today with the eyeliner and the black hair, I'm not surprised that people believe that those bands are somewhat associated with goth. It's unfortunate, but I respect their right to be unknowledgeable.

Adam

f®eak s&#169 wrote: »

There were goth punk (or death rock) bands in the late 70s/early 80s but that term died fairly quick.

Looking at this typical image portrayed in hipster rock today with the eyeliner and the black hair, I'm not surprised that people believe that those bands are somewhat associated with goth. It's unfortunate, but I respect their right to be unknowledgeable.

I don't.

Karl Hungus

You know, it might be an incredible coincidence, but I've just noticed your location was "In the flat field", Freak Scenery. Fair play.

John

Karl Hungus wrote:

You know, it might be an incredible coincidence, but I've just noticed your location was "In the flat field", Freak Scenery. Fair play.

He gets boards, he does get boards, in the flat field

weeder

Karl Hungus wrote:

Eh?

Goth evolved from the late 70's Post-Punk scene. See bands like Bauhaus, Joy Division, Siouxsie & The Banshees, and so forth, for example.

"Gothpunk" is a new one on me though.

Any comparisons with Emo...

well examples of goth punk being
aiden#my chem romance
basically emo dressed funnier

DerekD Goldfish

John2 wrote:

He gets boards, he does get boards, in the flat field

Thats either the best or worst pun ever I have yet to decide

John

DerekD Goldfish wrote:

Thats either the best or worst pun ever I have yet to decide

You know, I'm unsure myself...

Karl Hungus

weeder wrote:

well examples of goth punk being
aiden#my chem romance
basically emo dressed funnier

Neither of those bands are anything remotely goth. Pop punk maybe. I suggest you actually give a listen to the bands I mentioned, and gather some knowledge on the subject.

Bixmoo

The Rasmus and Evanescence, yikes!
All these genres are gonna make my head explode. Two categories from now on: sh**e and Not sh**e. I'd put Fall Out Boy, Greenday, Rasmus, Evanescence, Panic At The Disco, My Chemical Romance into the first category anyway.

John

Bixmoo wrote:

Two categories from now on: sh**e and Not sh**e.

That's all you really need. Oh and amazing. You need that for some artists.

odhran

John2 wrote:

That's all you really need. Oh and amazing. You need that for some artists.

You also need something like "Extra ****e". You know, for the Sandi Thoms of this world.

John

odhran wrote:

You also need something like "Extra ****e". You know, for the Sandi Thoms of this world.

No you don't, you just narrow your classification of music to exclude them

Bixmoo

ya I think that's a good idea, two categories for most bands but then an extra special category like 'amazing' for some bands. And it has to be very strictly applied so the term isn't diluted

Karl Hungus

In fairness, genres serve a purpose aslong as you don't read to much into it. It can give you an idea of what a band might sound like.

However, I think Peter Murphy would be spinning in his grave if "Goth" was likened to bands like My Chemical Romance.

Anyway, check out these videos, and learn:

Fields Of The Nephilim - Psychonaut
Bauhaus - In The Flat Field (You can see where the punk influences come in here, and I'm sure you could even call Bauhaus "Goth punk." Sounds absolutely nothing like Aiden. Thankfully.)
The Mission - Wasteland
Sisters Of Mercy - Dominion (Had to include this one, as it's where the Goth club in Dublin, Dominion, got the name.)
Type O Negative - Black #1 (Very tongue in cheek, but it's an often heard song in many a goth club.)
Fields Of The Nephilim - Moonchild (Because FotN just rocked, and they were pretty mental too.)

Dudess

All flippin' class. I so wanted to be a goth in 1989 but I was only 11 and my mum wouldn't buy me beetlecrushers/Doc Marten boots/the make-up etc. You can't beat the Sisters. Check out Temple of Love and This Corrosion too. Ridiculous but brilliant.