Greatest Sci-Fi space cap'n dude of all time....

toomevara

.....with all due respect to classic Trek's awesome inter-species leg over merchant Kirk I believe his crown may very well have been stolen by Firefly's Mal Reynolds....have spent the weekend immersed in the series and I've never encountered such a well drawn, multi faceted, complex character in a sci-fi series (Ok Ok Olmos' Adama in BG good too)...any advances on either of them?

What about the worst....Archer in Enterprise?

robnubis

Pfft Picard ftw

Just a very interesting character, and possibly the best actor Sci Fi has ever seen (well Edward Olmos comes very close).

Although Lando is also cool, he be representin.

elekid

I second Mal from Firefly. Also, Sisko from DS9 and Sheridan from Babylon 5. Lochely from B5 was pretty good too, for the short time she was in it. She certainly beats Janeway!

Edit: How could I forget about Gideon from Crusade. One of the worst things about the series being cancelled is the loss of that character.

bonkey

Tossup between Angus Thermopyle or Joshua Calvert for me.

toomevara

bonkey wrote:

Tossup between Angus Thermopyle or Joshua Calvert for me.

Ahh your delving into the written word as well...get no argument from me re: Calvert, absolutly brilliant creation...even if (for me) the third book one of the greatest dissapointments/let downs ever....what about Mallory in Zindell's Neverness...totally blew me away....

ixoy

toomevara wrote:

Ahh your delving into the written word as well...get no argument from me re: Calvert, absolutly brilliant creation...even if (for me) the third book one of the greatest dissapointments/let downs ever....what about Mallory in Zindell's Neverness...totally blew me away....

Hmm Calvert was good but yeah, I think Mallory wiSoli Ringess was better. Danlo was good too but maybe a bit too peace-loving for ultimate captain material?

Angus Thermopyle (Thermo-pile..) was a great captain all right, although not the coolest character in that series IMO (step up Warden Dios... not a captain admittedly).

There's a few decent captains in Alstair Reynold's Inhibitor books that should be mentioned - particularly in the psychotic league we get in "Chasm City".

On the television front - Sheridan and Adama (the latter, in particular, for having some guts to stand up to the PC liberalism of the civilians - doing what needs to be done).

bonkey

Oh! Damn! How could I forget....

Han Solo FTW!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

sheridan from b5 for me..

'get the hell out of our galaxy!'

still get goosebumps

azezil

Picard all the way baby

madrab

Im a sinclair man myself, thought he was far better than sheridan

as much as i like odamo, i prefer tighe, he is a much deeper, troubled commander

but come on, pike has to be the best, i have yet to see someone say more with one beep

bonkey

madrab wrote:

Im a sinclair man myself, thought he was far better than sheridan

Huh? Old plank o' wood Sinclair??? Nah.

Besides, best captain out of B5 was Delenn.

Only one human captain has ever survived battle with the Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else.

You tell 'em bone-head.

Sleepy

Mal Reynolds or Morpheus for me...

toomevara

ixoy wrote:

Angus Thermopyle (Thermo-pile..) was a great captain all right, although not the coolest character in that series IMO (step up Warden Dios... not a captain admittedly.

To my eternal shame, haven't read Donaldson's Sci Fi. Fantasy novels yep, but following reading this thread gonna get down with the whole Gap series...has been recommended to me so many times over the past few years....Incidentally and I know I'm getting off topic a little here but what the hell, can anyone recommend any good fantasy novels with genuinely complex themes/characters...no roaming in the gloaming elves and hobbits type stuff thanks.....or Tom Bomabadil(urghh!) type idiocy!!....

Ruu_Old

Would Flash Gordon be considered a cap'n? If not then Picard of course. *waves finger* make it so.

bonkey

toomevara wrote:

can anyone recommend any good fantasy novels with genuinely complex themes/characters...no roaming in the gloaming elves and hobbits type stuff thanks.....or Tom Bomabadil(urghh!) type idiocy!!....

Steven Erikson's Malazan (Books of the Fallen) series.

toomevara

bonkey wrote:

Steven Erikson's Malazan (Books of the Fallen) series.

Ta bonkey, much appreciated will give em a lash

niksar

Captain Harlock anyone? Space pirates ftw

madrab

toomevara wrote:

To my eternal shame, haven't read Donaldson's Sci Fi. Fantasy novels yep, but following reading this thread gonna get down with the whole Gap series...has been recommended to me so many times over the past few years....Incidentally and I know I'm getting off topic a little here but what the hell, can anyone recommend any good fantasy novels with genuinely complex themes/characters...no roaming in the gloaming elves and hobbits type stuff thanks.....or Tom Bomabadil(urghh!) type idiocy!!....

yeah the gap is a quality sci-fi series

Pugsley

Crichton, there just hasnt been a nut job like him since.

Sisko, Mal Reynolds and Adama were also all excellent captains.

toomevara

Sky were showing the series finale of Enterprise today and, Bloody Archer, what a two dimensional slab!! All the subtlety of a mannequin in a shop window. Now, I trealise the writing for Enterprise was appaling and there probaby wasnt much for Mr. Quantum Leap to work with, but i was moved to turn it off...a series finale ferchrissakes!! It was worse than a Neelix based Voyager episode or horror of horrors a Troi's Ma episode of Next Gen..

bonkey

toomevara wrote:

It was worse than a Neelix based Voyager episode or horror of horrors a Troi's Ma episode of Next Gen..

Oooh. Neelix and Troi's Ma...commanding a space-ship.

Anyway...another name to throw into the mix...

Avon.

toomevara

bonkey wrote:

Oooh. Neelix and Troi's Ma...commanding a space-ship.

Anyway...another name to throw into the mix...

Avon.

Avon? You got me there, it's not Space 1999 is it?

bonkey

Close.

Blake's 7

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

the old dude from seaquest dsv!

must remember to catch the marathon on tv here saturday

toomevara

bonkey wrote:

Close.

Blake's 7

Doh, of course....Blakes 7....now there was a series finale!

madrab

ahh seaquest, that was a wierd mix on science & fiction
i always felt wierd when that guy from the woodshall oceanagraphic institute(sp) would tell you the reason behind each episode

& then in the 3rd season(?) when they all went into the future & it tried to get even more sci-fi wierd but entertaining show escept for that bloody dolphin

toomevara

madrab wrote:

ahh seaquest, that was a wierd mix on science & fiction
i always felt wierd when that guy from the woodshall oceanagraphic institute(sp) would tell you the reason behind each episode

& then in the 3rd season(?) when they all went into the future & it tried to get even more sci-fi wierd but entertaining show escept for that bloody dolphin

Seaquest was completely hatstand in every way, could never get past the damned dolphin, laughable really...

TerrorFirmer

Mal from Firefly and Adama from BSG.

That is all...

Oh yeah, captain Corny Butt from Galaxina.....great captain.

Metacortex

Jean Luc Picard or Mal from Firefly

Dirk Gently

jean luc picard engage.

If he got more stories and air time the romulan commander tamalock would be in with a shout, the dirty devious cnut.

NotInventedHere

Capt. Zap Brannigan

"What makes a good man go neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

No contest