Complaints about threads

Nevyn

Evil Phil wrote:

/me awaits a shower of clotted cream

Like I would waste good clotted cream esp in this weather.

/me launches a bucket of lemon jelly at Not So Evil Phil.

monkeyfudge

BlitzKrieg wrote:

could the r be a typo...DA DA DAAAAH!

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddbWl4r71tQ&search=venture)

Adult Swim starts tonight on Bravo... for those who have it.

Tar.Aldarion

monkeyfudge wrote:

Adult Swim starts tonight on Bravo... for those who have it.

damn i wish I had Bravo, adult swim is class.

stevenmu

In a bit of a departure from every other post I've made on feedback, I'll address the actual issue here. On the spirituality forum we don't and would not encourage anyone to believe anything or discourage anyone from their current beliefs. We don't try, or even want, to convert anyone. If we did I'm fairly sure the forum would dissapear in the blinking of an admin's eye. It's simply a place for people to discuss their beliefs with others who may or may not share them (some of the best posters on the forum have actually been atheists and agnostics who certainly wouldn't believe any of the more 'out there' ideas.)

If I felt at any stage that some user of the forum was merely turning towards it out of some weakness, vulnerability or mental illness, I would strongly suggest that they seek professional help, and even consider banning them from the forum for their own sake. And if I ever had any indication that someone on the forum was trying to take advantage of someone who was vulnerable in some way I would instantly ban them from the forum, push for a site-wide ban which I would almost certainly get, and most likely arrange for a 'quiet word' with them in real life. (I'm sure any of the other mods would do likewise)

As for children being exposed to the forum, I personally believe that it's up to parents to decide what their children should or should not be exposed to over the internet (and in real life for that matter). The choice is and should be theirs to make, it should not be made for them by one person or group of people who think they know what's best for everyone's chlidren.

Besides, if the ideas these children 'should' have are so inherently right and correct, then surely they can withstand some exposure to ideas which are clearly false and wrong.

Nevyn

Knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
On both the paganism forum and the spirituality for and to some extent the
parrots normal forum you get people asking about " how to......" or " has anyone ever...... and tell me how"

There are plenty of sites and books out there with information from the very simple use of crystals to how to make a flying oinment from the fat of an unbaptised child.

What information is allowed and diseminated on the forums which I mod is watched carefully.
There are plenty of ways for people to learn how to do daft things out there and boards.ie doesn't need to be one of them.

For the most part those who ask these types of questions are seeking and have made up thier mind to find out or to try such things.

If I think it is unwise I will say so and try disuade them, if they are detemind they will find the info somehow and that is part of thier developement let them
move on and make thier won mistakes and learn from them.

Keeping an eye on such matters is the reason I agreed to mod the Spiritualiy forum in the first place.

Hobbes

Based on the OPs other posts on the forum it is quite clear that anything that doesn't agree to what they like should be banned/censored.

I wouldn't take it to heart.

Nevyn

you mean there won't be a witch hunt ?
but, but I put on my best anti pricking and flame retardant dress and hat ?

Oryx

Thaedydal wrote:

you mean there won't be a witch hunt ?
but, but I put on my best anti pricking and flame retardant dress and hat ?

Oh go on then. Im counting to ten, then im coming to get you (with pitchfork)

Karl Hungus

KatieK wrote:

Oh go on then. Im counting to ten, then im coming to get you (with pitchfork)

I couldn't find a pitchfork, but I do have a trowel, can I still be in on the fun?

Nevyn

/me cackles and twiches her nose covering KatieK in you guessed it lemon jelly.

Oryx

Hooeeey pitchforks and lemon jelly. Im in heaven.

Nevyn

Pervert !

Karl Hungus

Thaedydal wrote:

Pervert !

If you think that's bad, I shalln't mention what I've done with a hooker, a coathanger, and half a bottle of gin.

Stark

Jackie laughlin wrote:

or a naive, credulous individual

If it was up to me, threads would have random posts detailing how to make home made ingestible bombs thus dealing once and for all with the "but what if a stupid person should read this?" problem.

Nevyn

Karl Hungus wrote:

If you think that's bad, I shalln't mention what I've done with a hooker, a coathanger, and half a bottle of gin.

See all that post does it make it look like you were too cheap to pay for an abortion after you started pimping out yore Ma/girlfriend/sister.

I know Stark but they have more stupid people in thier family who would sue,
and while little johnny blowing out his stomach and bowels is more phyiscally provible then Little johnny using the key of solomon to summon deamons or at least trying to and his mind snapping and he ends up in St. Pats posting how to do so could still be seen as a contributing factor.

Karl Hungus

Thaedydal wrote:

See all that post does it make it look like you were too cheap to pay for an abortion after you started pimping out yore Ma/girlfriend/sister.

:eek:

I was only gonna say get drunk with the hooker and have fun taking turns at twisting the coathanger into different shapes.

You're one twisted brainwrong right there Thaed.

WhiteWashMan

Karl Hungus wrote:

I couldn't find a pitchfork, but I do have a trowel, can I still be in on the fun?

i have an old fashioned rag on a stick torch, lets get together and form a mob...

The Corinthian

Lest we forget, that there are as many people on the left hand side of the I.Q. curve as there are on the right, so stupid people will always read these things; the best we can hope for is that they don’t understand them.

Vis-a-vi the naive and gullible; one leap of faith is much like another in this regard, and so to target the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster for censorship would be unfair without doing the same for Christianity or Islam. Of course, the question is thornier when we begin to consider all the cults and scams out there that feed upon people, but to police those we would have to be both qualified and balanced enough to do so - and I don’t think anyone here is.

So really readers, regardless of age, should at best be told to caveat emptor, if no law is being broken, and nothing more. It’s not our job to police the idiocy of those who nominally share our genome and if they want to go off and give away all their money to a commune, strap a bomb to themselves, flagellate their sins away or hold hands in a forest reciting 30-year-old ancient rituals, then that’s up to them.

Think of it as Darwinism.

Hobbes

The Corinthian wrote:

so to target the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster for censorship would be unfair

Especially since the FSM has been seen recently!

Nevyn

Karl Hungus wrote:

:eek: You're one twisted brainwrong right there Thaed.

/shrug

Twas the common method employeed by the doxies that worked thier trade near the gin mills and any other unfortunates.
The gin was used to relax and dull the pain and if you were lucky to sterilise the wire.
The history of abortion is an intresting read.

Crinnie wrote:

hold hands in a forest reciting 30-year-old ancient rituals

Wicca was first publicised in 1954, so it is at least over 60 years old

Crinnie wrote:

It’s not our job to police the idiocy of those who nominally share our genome

Yes and no. While stupid people will do stupid things
as mods we have to watch for things which maybe harmfull and actionible as a result against the site
and try and promote best practice across the board as in safer sex,
go to the dr, don't replace the fuse boards yourself get an electrican,
if your not competant enough to home build a pc get some one who can.
Don't try run a marathon with out training,
don't get drunk and goto a 'huanted' house and use a ouija board,
or try a voodoo ritual and drink an obsene amount of rum and fire walk
or don't do kickboxing with out stretching first,
or try a native amerian tribal rite and eat a hand full of peyote.

The Corinthian

Thaedydal wrote:

Wicca was first publicised in 1954, so it is at least over 60 years old

Whatever; I wouldn’t single any religion out was my point.

Yes and no. While stupid people will do stupid things
as mods we have to watch for things which maybe harmfull and actionible as a result against the site

Ideally sure, were it not that people tend to be inconsistent and subjective about their policing. Moderators should and do watch for things which maybe harmful and actionable as a result against the site, but it’s not always as clear cut as someone posting porn or warez. Just because psychic-based religion looks a bit like a scam, does it mean it must be one and thus censored? Or because a moderator doesn’t understand the definition of racism will apply it erroneously to any discussion they feel objectionable?

BTH, legal complications aside (which frankly should be monitored by smods or admins with legal knowledge), it is not the role of moderators to act as thought police.

BlitzKrieg

monkeyfudge wrote:

Adult Swim starts tonight on Bravo... for those who have it.

sweet my parents got Bravo and i'm stayin with them for a week...A WEEK OF ADULT SWIM WHOOT!

monkeyfudge

BlitzKrieg wrote:

sweet my parents got Bravo and i'm stayin with them for a week...A WEEK OF ADULT SWIM WHOOT!

Hmmm... it might be tomorrow night... I got confused by the fact that it's on at midnight.

BlitzKrieg

well i'm not going to be there till sunday, so it'll be on when i get there

here's another clip though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6lXe5FgLSQ&mode=related&search=Venture%20bros

the_syco

Thaedydal wrote:

you mean there won't be a witch hunt ?

Just goto Fibbers. There's lots of fine looking witch's there. Working this weekend, so maybe next weekend? And if lots of us go, we can call it:

"Boards.ie non-holloween post-Witch-Hunt Beers"

CuLT

Oh man, last time I was in Fibbers was eventful.

Nevyn

It tends to be, one of those places.

Talliesin

Thaedydal wrote:

you mean there won't be a witch hunt ?
but, but I put on my best anti pricking and flame retardant dress and hat ?

And I was going to secrete high explosives upon my person and take them out with me.

Actually there were a few cases in England of people being burnt as heretics or traitors (not as witches, since they hung them in England, unless they were also accused of treason) having bags of gunpowder around their neck so they'd go out faster. Alas if they'd known more about gunpowder they'd have known that it wasn't going to explode, just flare resulting in a painful surface burn and adding to the poor bastards' agonies.

Stark wrote:

If it was up to me, threads would have random posts detailing how to make home made ingestible bombs thus dealing once and for all with the "but what if a stupid person should read this?" problem.

It has been said that "anyone constructing pipe-bombs from instructions they have found on the Internet has too many fingers for their own good".

In reality though, all that can happen here is that someone who has the intelligence and ability to access the Internet and yet (through some sort of deliberate warping of their education) didn't know that some people have different spiritual views as whatever they were raised to themselves, would be disabused of this. Granted it could be quite a shock to such a person, but the guilt would lie with their parents and teachers for practicing this deliberate non-education (unless they'd been raised on a deserted island with a sole or few adults who tried as best they could, like Prospero trying to educate Miranda without his books).

That said, an encyclopedia would be more likely to slip past their guardians undetected than a computer with a working Internet account. And removing boards.ie from the mix won't make a dent on what is there on the Internet.

The Corinthian wrote:

Vis-a-vi the naive and gullible; one leap of faith is much like another in this regard, and so to target the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster for censorship would be unfair without doing the same for Christianity or Islam. Of course, the question is thornier when we begin to consider all the cults and scams out there that feed upon people, but to police those we would have to be both qualified and balanced enough to do so - and I don’t think anyone here is.

The general rules against proselytising more than suffice here. Unless someone directly seeks such direction no poster may direct them towards Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Christianity, Islam or any other religion.

As a rule we don't generally censor people for seeking or advising on harmful practices outside of that, if they are not for other reasons illegal or physically harmful to themselves or others. Generally it's sufficient to just let the response deal with that rather than censor (the same applies, perhaps even more so, to the Paranormal forum).

6th

The OP doesnt seem to be bothered enough to actually make an arguement against the forum (or thread) in question so there isnt a problem is there?

Nevyn

You have to give them a chance to state thier case they may not have been on line from yesterday not everyone is on line as much as you are 6th.