RTE to broadcast Cork in Europe

Tank Top Fever!

http://www.elevenaside.com/intoeurope/irish_soccer_detail.asp?newsid=23360

Cork City’s Uefa Champions League opener against Cypriot champions Apollon Limassol will be broadcast live on RTE 2 next Wednesday evening (July 12th).

With the distractions of the World Cup a memory by then, a large crowd is expected to descend upon the Cross for Cork’s first Champions League game in 13 years.

Shelbourne’s reached the third qualifying round two years ago but fell at the second qualifying round stage last year, and City will be aiming to at least match their Dublin rivals – and that means a victory is expected against Apollon over the next three weeks.

The first qualifying round first leg tie will kick-off at Turners Cross at 7.30pm.

gimmick

Good news that RTE are coming in right at the very start, and not waiting until there is more glamorous opposition.

I am not in the slightest bit confident of this game. Hopefully can take a lead to Cyprus, and defend it out there, rather than having a mountain to climb.

John O Flynn is definitely out of the 1st leg, and most likely the 2nd also.

Tank Top Fever!

gimmick wrote:

Good news that RTE are coming in right at the very start, and not waiting until there is more glamorous opposition.

I am not in the slightest bit confident of this game. Hopefully can take a lead to Cyprus, and defend it out there, rather than having a mountain to climb.

John O Flynn is definitely out of the 1st leg, and most likely the 2nd also.

massive loss is JOF, what's the latest on Georgie? will he play a part

I'd expect to see him eating humble pie in the not too distant future

johnos

Tank Top Fever! wrote:

massive loss is JOF, what's the latest on Georgie? will he play a part

I'd expect to see him eating humble pie in the not too distant future

RTE radio saying GO'C is in the squad for the game...

Ronan|Raven

And so they should show the game. You could almost mistake them for our national broadcaster!

KdjaCL

Cork to win 3-0 i may even watch it





kdjac

1huge1

personally its about time RTE gave more attention to our local clubs
maybe this is the start to something big
i know this is being very optimistic but our clubs need all the support we can give

finnpark

My prediction is Cork City 0 Apol 2 for the first leg and 4-0 overall. This is the worst draw Cork could have got. This side is a real progressive side and Cypriot sides have brushed aside eircom league opposition with relative ease in recent years. I really cannot see City get through this one.:(

Resistance

What date is the second leg. We are playing Cork on Friday the 21th of July which will be live on Setanta so it might be moved to Saturday

gimmick

The 2nd leg is the 19th. AFAIK the Sligo game is being postponed indefinitely.

Balmed Out

"My prediction is Cork City 0 Apol 2 for the first leg and 4-0 overall. This is the worst draw Cork could have got. This side is a real progressive side and Cypriot sides have brushed aside eircom league opposition with relative ease in recent years. I really cannot see City get through this one."
Bull
Some of apollons european history


Year 1998-1999
FK Ekranas (LIT) - Apollon = 1 - 2
Goals: Cirstea, Pittas
Apollon - FK Ekranas (LIT) = 3 - 3
Goals: Spoljaric(2), Kavazis

Year 1986-1987
Malmoe (SWE) - Apollon = 6 - 0
Apollon - Malmoe (SWE) = 2 - 1
Goal: Christodoulou

Year 1996-1997
Djurgardens (SWE) - Apollon = 8 - 0



It will be tough but i dont think either side will be getting brushed aside.

Töpher

Comparing those results you have to laugh, but football is a funny game! Hope the Carkies can do it!

adam_ccfc

I think we're in with a shout, but they'll be no pushover that's for sure. A lot depends on Georgie and whether or not himself and Rico can sort things out ....

applehunter

I have no idea how it will go.

We will be solid and tough to beat at the Cross, but this is the Champions league. We can forget Djurgardens or Nijmegan, this is the real deal.

The George O'Callaghan issue is typical of how "off the field" events have dominated City over the past 2 seasons.

applehunter

John O'Flynn doubtful, George O'Callaghan in limbo , tax bills and Watches.

I am getting a feeling that something special is going to happen this team.

KdjaCL

limbo?


Cork 13-8 and other team 7-2


No odds on correct score or a spread for Cork to win by 2.

kdjac

gimmick

John O Flynn is defo out. George has not returned to training yet, so I would imagine that is him ruled out also.

applehunter

http://eecho.ie/pdf/back.pdf

George is apparently out of the match tomorrow after not showing for training the last 2 days.

Another disaster for Cork City as far as Im concerned. This is like a mini-Saipan at this stage. Cork City has lost Kevin Doyle, Shane Long, Liam Kearney, Alan Reynolds in the last 2/3 year down to poor management. Please god the best player of all those will NOT go down the same route.:o

Rico wont call George and vise-versa.

I still think we can do it tomorrow night and take a lead to Cyprus.

"Low lie the fields of Bishopstown" etc!:)

radiospan

Lennox says he's disappointed that the tickets aren't selling as well as he'd hoped, but at €22 each I'm not surprised.

More on George here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/irish/5172014.stm

And a bit about "Apollon 13":

The Cypriots go into the game brimming with confidence as they currently lead their domestic league with an unbeaten record.

Their German manager Bernd Strange guided Iraq to the 2004 Olympics but stepped down before the Athens Games because of fears over the security situation in the country.

Apollon Limassol was at something of a low ebb when he took the job but he has helped to turn around the club's fortunes in a big way.

The Limassol squad includes striker Lukasz Sosin who has scored 28 goals this season.

gimmick

Unless I am completely mistaken, Limassoll only started pre season about 2 weeks ago, and their league hasn't kicked off yet?

Re ticket sales, that was just Lennox trying to get a few people off their arses. They have been flying out of the Horseshoe Bar anyways. I would imagine it will be close on a full house. As for €22, whats wrong with it? Its the European Cup, expenses will be huge for the away leg. A ticket to see Leyton orient in League 2 last season was £16stg (€24ish). €22 is good value. €20 if you got tickets before today.

Anyway, for the matter at hand - I hate saying this, but the whole saga down here has taken any enjoyment I would have had tonight away from me. If City lose, they will be war I reckon, as people will take the loss out on the fact that George isnt playing. Dare I say, even if City win 3-0, people will be saying "If George were playing we would have won 5-0". One thing is for certain, no pints for me before or after the game, as I will only end up saying or doing something stupid

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Come on City!

Töpher

seansouth wrote:

Come on City!

I echo these sentiments! Best of luck!

I'm off to sit myself in front of the telly now, the biggest match on the tv of the summer! Well, it won't be hard to be one of the most entertaining anyways!!

Slash/ED

Without O'Callaghan I fear for Cork to be perfectly honest, they also lack on the wings. Hope I'm wrong though but this could be a total disaster for them.

Chucky the tree

Very tough for Cork. They need at least to win by 2 goals to stand any chance in the second leg.

county

seansouth wrote:

Come on City!

well said,3-1 hopefully

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Half time, and neither team has impressed.

Bad first touch by both teams. If City can capitalise on posession gained from ball from the AL defence, and string a few decent passes together, they could trouble AL.

Thought it was funny when Ger Canning moaned about the Iraqi players wearing their "Christian" names on the back of their jersies, and the fact that the AL Goalkeeping coach speaks "Iraqi"

county

1-0 to cork,not a bad goal

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Get in Billy Woods!

One nil City!

Kingp35

Great finish by Billy Woods. COrk have been the better side in the second half and hopefully they can push on and nick a second. Behan has looked dangerous.

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Lucky there, off the underside of the bar.

88min

Töpher

Poor game in fairness, I thought the nerves showed - but thats to be expected I guess. hope City can handle the heat next week and get some form of a result, a time against Red Star Belgrade would be nice for them.

Apollon are ranked as the 3rd best team currently in the competition, so in all not a bad result. Another coeficcient point means 0.333 added to the national coefficient, which benefits us all.

Ronan|Raven

Oh yes gotta think of the coefficient. For that momentous day!

Roar

Dunno how it looked on telly but I thought City played well tonight, particularly in the second half.

We created chances in the second half but just couldnt take them, and i fear one nil may not be enough in nicosia next week.

however its another big european win for city, and after the turbulent week we've had with the george o'callaghan affair (Georgegate? Ricogate? )it was nice to put it all behind us with the win tonight.

Cant wait for cyprus next week.. dunno where me passport is though

gimmick

Well well well, what a night. How City didn't win that by 3 or 4 nil I'll never know. Well thats a cliché, if we had a poacher on the field we would have had. From my view, City totally dominated the second half, and deserved more than a 1 goal victory. Great finsih from Woods. Next week will be interesting, as I really thought Appolon were very very poor defensively.

Interesting to note the support for Rico tonight. Huge chants throughout tonight for him. Of course a minority will blacken all that by doing something stupid, but they can fúck themselves for now.

KdjaCL

Bah had 20 quid on 2-0






kdjac

Big Ears

Cork were fairly decent tonight and the result isn't too bad , however there are some worrying negatives .

Cork dropped very deep after they scored the goal and kept getting deeper , if they try and defend the lead away they could well be punished . What also worries me is the Cork players seemed to tire much worse than Limassol and with the conditions out in Cyprus they will tire much quicker than they did today .

I think Cork may have to score in the second leg as I fancy Limassol to get at least 1 late on .

So far so good though .

gosplan

I was impressed by Cork today, had been away for a while and this was the first game I'd seen them play this year.

I think if they keep the ball low and play through the Cypriots they can get a goal away(especially down the right, Murphy looked great).

Well Done Cork!!!

Great quote in the Independent's match preview:
"The Apollon squad is a mini version of Eurovision. They have players from Cyrpus, Iraq, Czech Republic, Portugal, Poland, Slovenia, Hungary and Romania. Corks squad has players from Waterford and Limerick(as well as cork and UK)"

gimmick

In a bout of remarkable common sense the FAI have allowed Cityy to postpone their game with Bray for this saturday indefinitely, to accomadate preparations for the 2nd leg next wednesday.

Tank Top Fever!

Well done to City, very professional performance and lets hope they can finish the job in Cyprus

gimmick

LOL

Comfort food for the losers! Yes, that is the Limassol team getting their post match meal at one of the glorious chippers inside the Cross.

radiospan

Any word on RTE showing the return leg?

Cypriot TV showed the game live from RTE's pictures last night so surely they'll return the favour next week?

Töpher

6:55PM next Wednesday, live on RTE2.

radiospan

Excellent.

Last night's win (coupled with some Belarussian team's defeat) means that this years eircom League winners are almost guaranteed to be seeded in next year's CL first qualifying round draw. (Possibly the first time an Irish side will be seeded in a European draw?)

City only narrowly missed out on being seeded this year.

Töpher

Shelbourne were seeded last year in QR1, we have an extra club coefficient point (which gets added to the national) from our 2-2 draw with Lille in 2004.

We drew, and whooped, Glentoran.

gimmick

plazzTT wrote:

Excellent.

Last night's win (coupled with some Belarussian team's defeat) means that this years eircom League winners are almost guaranteed to be seeded in next year's CL first qualifying round draw. (Possibly the first time an Irish side will be seeded in a European draw?)

City only narrowly missed out on being seeded this year.

Had City gotten one extra draw last season, they would have been seeded this time round.

If City progress this time, I think they will get a club co-efficient, like Shels, but if say Drogs win the league, they will be unseeded in next years draw, to the best of my knowledge.

Zebra3

gimmick wrote:

Had City gotten one extra draw last season, they would have been seeded this time round.

If City progress this time, I think they will get a club co-efficient, like Shels, but if say Drogs win the league, they will be unseeded in next years draw, to the best of my knowledge.

You only get a club co-efficient by getting a draw or a win in the 'proper' part of the CL or UEFA Cup. Shels have a club co-efficient (higher than all other EL clubs) because we drew with Lille in the first round proper of the UEFA Cup in 2004/05.

Shels will be seeded in CL or UEFA Cup next season if we qualify for either competition. For the rest of the EL clubs, it's touch and go.

KdjaCL

Zebra3 wrote:

Shels will be seeded in CL or UEFA Cupnext season if we qualify for either competition. For the rest of the EL clubs, it's touch and go.

Now all you need is somewhere to play your games


Odd RTE showing the away leg, it must be free or maybe thats where our licence fee hike is coming from and not the new price for the premiership.


kdjac

gimmick

Zebra3 wrote:

You only get a club co-efficient by getting a draw or a win in the 'proper' part of the CL or UEFA Cup.

Im fairly certain that is incorrect. Any games played in UEFA Cup or CL gain co-effiecient point, none whatsoever for the inter toto. Shels would not have got a seeding in last years CL for one draw Vs Lille, and one draw Vs Depor. I am certainly open for correction on that one though.

However, the point is moot for now.

eirebhoy

You're both correct in a way. Club coefficients are made up of the coefficient of a team plus 33% of their country ranking. It means that every club in Ireland has a club coefficient of 1.485 but Shels have 2.485 because of the extra point they got from their draw in the UEFA cup. Qualification results only counts towards the country coef. and not the club.

Ronan|Raven

I was looking through scandinavian listings to see if anyone maybe showing the uefa cup matches for next week but looks bad so far.

Zebra3

gimmick wrote:

Im fairly certain that is incorrect. Any games played in UEFA Cup or CL gain co-effiecient point, none whatsoever for the inter toto. Shels would not have got a seeding in last years CL for one draw Vs Lille, and one draw Vs Depor. I am certainly open for correction on that one though.

However, the point is moot for now.

All clubs work off the league's co-efficient which was 1.43 at the start of this season's UEFA campaigns. Shels had a co-efficient of 2.485 (at the start of this UEFA season) because they have the league's co-efficient and the bonus of getting a draw in the first round proper of the UEFA Cup against Lille in 2004/05 season. The draw with Depor was in the qualifying rounds of the CL so it was nothing special from a co-efficient point of view.

Up until recently Bohs had a higher co-efficient than all other LoI sides because they beat Kaiserlautern in the first round proper of the UEFA Cup back in 2000/01.

Shels were seeded in last year's CL first qualifying round draw, hence the easy draw against Glentoran.

Cork blew it big time last year by losing home and away against Slavia. Chances like that don't come around too often.

Ronan|Raven wrote:

I was looking through scandinavian listings to see if anyone maybe showing the uefa cup matches for next week but looks bad so far.

They won't be showing the games live unless an Irish channel is.