Pay Scales

godtabh

I'm with my company two years and I have a yearly review coming up in which I hope to get a raise.

I've read the I.E.I pay review for 2003 but is there any current information on the pay for a civil/structural engineer with 2 years experience?

Whats the going rate?

whassupp2

kearnsr wrote:

I'm with my company two years and I have a yearly review coming up in which I hope to get a raise.

I've read the I.E.I pay review for 2003 but is there any current information on the pay for a civil/structural engineer with 2 years experience?

Whats the going rate?

From the book "Engineering as a career":

2 years experience: €30,000 (from a IEI survey)

that book is 5 years old so you can add that

whassupp2

kearnsr wrote:

I'm with my company two years and I have a yearly review coming up in which I hope to get a raise.

I've read the I.E.I pay review for 2003 but is there any current information on the pay for a civil/structural engineer with 2 years experience?

Whats the going rate?

From the book "Engineering as a career":

2 years experience: €30,000 (from a IEI survey)

that book is 5 years old so you can add that

godtabh

Where did you get that book? Is it on the I.E.I site?

Does it give a 1 year rate and starting off rate? Maybe I can estimate from that

ARGINITE

I have friends right out of college getting €28500 as a vhdl designer.
So i would thing 35k depending on where you are working and what you work at.

godtabh

ARGINITE wrote:

I have friends right out of college getting €28500 as a vhdl designer.
So i would thing 35k depending on where you are working and what you work at.

Whats a VHDL desinger do?

All the discplines would all be on different money so I'd like to try and compare like with like i.e fellow civil/structural engineers

Darren1o1

Are you a member of the IEI cos the payscales are up there for 2005 also, you could prob check the rise from 2003-05 and then increase at a similar rate. Would be a reasonable estimate.

whassupp2

kearnsr wrote:

Where did you get that book? Is it on the I.E.I site?

Does it give a 1 year rate and starting off rate? Maybe I can estimate from that

Just did Leaving Cert so i got it from a career guidance teacher.
If you want to look it up it was written by Professor Gerry Byrne and was published by Forfás and the IEI


This is the pay scale in full:

less than 1 year exp: €24,000
1-2 years: €30,000
3-5 years: €36,000
6-10 years: €50,000

Remember these are scales from 2001.

youthacademy

kearnsr wrote:

Whats a VHDL desinger do?

All the discplines would all be on different money so I'd like to try and compare like with like i.e fellow civil/structural engineers

VHDL is "visual hardware design language", cant really compare that to civil engineering

modmuffin

I am a civil/enviromental engineer, have 18 months experience & am on 36k.
My next pay increment is after 2 yrs & i will go up to about 38k

However i have friends (civil engineers) who are presently on about 40k after 18months. but these guys are working 24/7 on major construction sites whereas im 50% office based.

hope this helps

godtabh

modmuffin wrote:

I am a civil/enviromental engineer, have 18 months experience & am on 36k.
My next pay increment is after 2 yrs & i will go up to about 38k

However i have friends (civil engineers) who are presently on about 40k after 18months. but these guys are working 24/7 on major construction sites whereas im 50% office based.

hope this helps

What size of comapny do you work for? I think that also determines how much you get.

cerebus

youthacademy wrote:

VHDL is "visual hardware design language", cant really compare that to civil engineering

Close - VHDL stands for VHSIC Hardware Description Language, where VHSIC stands for Very High Speed Integrated Circuit. Don't you just love acronyms buried within acronyms...

les-paul

still close but not completly right tough, the V in VHDL stands for VLSI, that is, Very Large Scale of Integration, think millions of transistors in the space of a stamp.

cerebus

les-paul wrote:

still close but not completly right tough, the V in VHDL stands for VLSI, that is, Very Large Scale of Integration, think millions of transistors in the space of a stamp.

Are you sure? (See also the comp.lang.vhdl FAQ). Not that VLSI isn't a bad guess...

Never try to out-pedant a professional pedant

But don't blame me, blame the US DoD. The term VLSI was certainly in common use back in the early 80's when VHDL came together - even more so by 1987 (first IEEE VHDL standard if I remember right).

The language came out of the US VHSIC program though, so that is where the VHSIC in the name comes from.

My apologies to the OP - we have dragged the thread a little off-topic.

modmuffin

kearnsr wrote:

What size of comapny do you work for? I think that also determines how much you get.

Medium sized company. afaik they did benchmarking in the industry about 2 years ago & set up theyre salary scales to tie in with that

godtabh

modmuffin wrote:

Medium sized company. afaik they did benchmarking in the industry about 2 years ago & set up theyre salary scales to tie in with that

Are they hirining?

Thee seesm to be a bit off a difference in pay yet I'd saw the company sizes are probably around the same.

Voodu Child

The best way for a young engineer to get a good pay rise is to move companies unfortunately. Looking at everage pay in the industry, between 0 years experience and 2 years experience you could be talking ten grand difference (ie say 30 grand starting out and 40 grand after 2 years).

However, in real terms, youll be damned if you can find a company who will give a young engineer a five grand increase in their first and second year. Best way to get that kind of money is to go job-hunting.

Also, bear in mind that if you are worth keeping the salary increase wont be set in stone.
They will offer you as little an increase as they can get away with, so if youre not happy with it, let it be known.

godtabh

voodoo_child wrote:

The best way for a young engineer to get a good pay rise is to move companies unfortunately. Looking at everage pay in the industry, between 0 years experience and 2 years experience you could be talking ten grand difference (ie say 30 grand starting out and 40 grand after 2 years).

However, in real terms, youll be damned if you can find a company who will give a young engineer a five grand increase in their first and second year. Best way to get that kind of money is to go job-hunting.

Also, bear in mind that if you are worth keeping the salary increase wont be set in stone.
They will offer you as little an increase as they can get away with, so if youre not happy with it, let it be known.

I'd rather go in to the meeting and let them make and offer but have in the back of my mind a ficure that I think is reasonable.

I'm happy enough in the company I'm in. Last time I went for an interview I got offered an extra grand so stayed where I was and went up €4k. Hopping of more of the same!

les-paul

Just to close the discussion...

Touché! I guess my profs. at college totally fooled me! Plus, I didn't knew about the origins of vhdl, I had always heard it was some of an European thing, with more users here than in USA or anywhere else.

PDelux

I think there is some confusion about pat increases here.
voodoo_child is right, you would not go from 28k to 34k in the same job in 1-2 years unless you get a promotion. If you move to another company/job with 2 years exp. then you could get a better increase.
Think about a 5% average increase year on year in the same position.

godtabh

During year one I was on my basic plus over time. At the end of the year the boss said it was a mistake and offered me a new contract which was 15% increase.

Now based on that I would be looking for something similar ie another 15% increase based on the fact I've more responsibities and I'm the only person in our house who is able to use specialised programs such as PICADY, OSCADY, TRANSTY (only person who can use these), WINDES (one of 3 who can use these) and other programs so I reckon the raise would be justified.

But it seems that a few people I know and a few hear are on more money. Only thing that is different is company they work for and the relevant experience

Signac

The current Engineers Ireland salary survey is available on the members area of the website www.engineersireland.ie. Students can join

Regards

Signac

Er.Jonny

Salary would of course be determined by several factors. With a masters degree, you can expect a job that pays around 60k USD.

Thanks & Regards,
Jonny

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