Setting up a static ip

colly10

I know this question has probably been asked before but I have read alot on this and still have no luck.
I have an eircom connection with a netopia router. I need to port forward and I have got this already set up. Now I need to set up a static ip.

Do I need to set up TCP/IP properties or do I have to change something on the router as well?
Thanks.

DemonOfTheFall

Set your static IP in TCP/IP properties in the control panel.

It'd be much easier for you to just turn on uPNP on the router and use a client such as uTorrent which will forward the ports for you with uPNP

techie

If you mean a Public static Ip for mail etc. then you need to contact Eircom sales to assign a static IP to your line, all they ask you to do then is restart the router and the new static ip address is active on the public side of your connection and then you can port forward from the router itself.

colly10

Im setting it up for p2p. Do I actually have to ring them and ask them to give me a static address or should I just have one? I assume that a static ip won't cost me extra?
Thanks for your help.

Auvers

colly10 wrote:

Im setting it up for p2p. Do I actually have to ring them and ask them to give me a static address or should I just have one? I assume that a static ip won't cost me extra?
Thanks for your help.

http://www.portforward.com/networking/static-xp.htm

CuLT

For the purposes you need a static ip for, you'd have to ring them and pay for a static IP.

I don't know whether they provide it on residential packages or not though, so you might even have to upgrade to a business package.

If I were you, I'd use something other than Direct Connect.

colly10

Auvers wrote:

http://www.portforward.com/networking/static-xp.htm

I tried this earlier and I tried it again to make sure, I can still connect to the web but I am still getting a lowid in emule so this must not be working correctly.

DemonOfTheFall

What are you guys all talking about ?!?!!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!! Where does he even mention direct connect ?

The guy is asking for a static IP on his own private network. You definitely do not have to pay for one of those.

Do what I said in the first reply

colly10

CuLT wrote:

For the purposes you need a static ip for, you'd have to ring them and pay for a static IP.

I don't know whether they provide it on residential packages or not though, so you might even have to upgrade to a business package.

If I were you, I'd use something other than Direct Connect.

Thanks, what would you suggest I use? I know a few people who use emule that don't suffer from this lowid problem that definitly arn't paying extra for an ip.

MunsterCycling

You need to set an IP that is outside the scope of the DHCP server on the router and is unique (so you don't get conflicts)

You then manually enter the DNS address (use the routers gateway IP, simplest solution) and the default gateway address in the settings on your net card config pages.

colly10

DemonOfTheFall wrote:

Set your static IP in TCP/IP properties in the control panel.

It'd be much easier for you to just turn on uPNP on the router and use a client such as uTorrent which will forward the ports for you with uPNP

uPNP was switched on, I downloaded uTorrent then tested the defualt port on it to see if it forwards properly, it doesn't work

CuLT

DemonOfTheFall wrote:

What are you guys all talking about ?!?!!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!! Where does he even mention direct connect ?

The guy is asking for a static IP on his own private network. You definitely do not have to pay for one of those.

Do what I said in the first reply

The only times I've ever seen someone looking for a static IP for a p2p is when they're using DC.

You either need a static IP, set up DynDNS in some funky manner (I guess) or use passive mode.

OFC you don't need to purchase a static IP for your internal network, so if that's all that's needed then obviously setting up port forwarding is the way to go.

Trying to direct someone through setting up port forwarding always end up in tears or very, very long diatribes.

colly10

MunsterCycling wrote:

You need to set an IP that is outside the scope of the DHCP server on the router and is unique (so you don't get conflicts)

At the moment my ip is inside "DHCP Start Address" and "DHCP Start Address" on my router so I assume that changing the last digit on "DHCP Start Address" on my router would solve this problem? Also how would I know that my ip was unique?

MunsterCycling

ok need a few bits of info and i'm not going to read the thread to get em so:

What router are you using? Operating system?

What are the Start and (i think you meant) Finish addresses of your DHCP server? You need to give your computer an IP that is OUTSIDE of this scope, how many devices connect that need an IP. You will know that it is unique because it will not be assigned by the DHCP server (see the config page on your router for the list of valid IP leases) and because it will work. Common symtoms of IP conflict are non working connections or the first device turned on works but not others.

MC

colly10

CuLT wrote:

Trying to direct someone through setting up port forwarding always end up in tears or very, very long diatribes.

I origionally thought that port forwarding was all I needed to do but it doesn't seem to be, here are my settings which im almost positive are right.

Nat is enabled and these services are allowed (TCP and UDP)



Details of the 2 services -





Emule port settings -

colly10

MunsterCycling wrote:

What router are you using? Operating system?

What are the Start and (i think you meant) Finish addresses of your DHCP server? You need to give your computer an IP that is OUTSIDE of this scope, how many devices connect that need an IP. You will know that it is unique because it will not be assigned by the DHCP server (see the config page on your router for the list of valid IP leases) and because it will work. Common symtoms of IP conflict are non working connections or the first device turned on works but not others.

MC

OS: XP Home SP2
Router: Netopia 2247NWG

Im not sure how many devices connect tbh.
Here are my ip settings etc ..

DemonOfTheFall

Aha! The netopia firewall strikes again. Choose firewall in the left hand panel and set it to "Off". Then all will work...

DemonOfTheFall

CuLT wrote:

The only times I've ever seen someone looking for a static IP for a p2p is when they're using DC.
You either need a static IP, set up DynDNS in some funky manner (I guess) or use passive mode.
OFC you don't need to purchase a static IP for your internal network, so if that's all that's needed then obviously setting up port forwarding is the way to go.
Trying to direct someone through setting up port forwarding always end up in tears or very, very long diatribes.

He needs a static IP on his internal network so that his PC is always at the address that his incoming emule requests are forwarded to.

MunsterCycling

Ok that is a manually assigned IP so next is the setting up of the pinholes in the router firewall. Have to google.....

MunsterCycling

Demon > you familiar with setting the firewall pinholes for the Netopias?


This will come in handy

http://www.netopia.com/support/hardware/2247w.html

This even more so:
http://www.netopia.com/support/hardware/technotes/CQG_025.html

colly10

MunsterCycling wrote:

Ok that is a manually assigned IP so next is the setting up of the pinholes in the router firewall. Have to google.....

This is port-forwarding? I have already set up port forwarding, my settings for it are shown in a few of my images above (the post before my ip images)

MunsterCycling

Next step is to open the ports in the router firewall so that incoming connections can reach eMule. Have a gander at the 2nd link in my post above.

DemonOfTheFall

Firewall Pinholes = Port Forwarding When you're talking about routers.

It looks like you have everything set up right. Just turn the netopia firewall to "Off".

MunsterCycling

And what about the windows firewall? Are you using that or have you turned it off?

As Demon suggests temporarily disable the firewall in the router and test the connection. If it works then that is your problem. You need to open the ports in the firewall before it will work with it turned on.

colly10

MunsterCycling wrote:

And what about the windows firewall? Are you using that or have you turned it off?

As Demon suggests temporarily disable the firewall in the router and test the connection. If it works then that is your problem. You need to open the ports in the firewall before it will work with it turned on.

I have Zone Alarm installed so I should be alright I assume, setting the router firewall to low does the job. I asume that leaving it on low is safe enough because im running ZA anyway?

Thanks everyone for your help

MunsterCycling

Yeah you SHOULD be ok, only thing is if you ever need to do some debugging regarding ports then you will have remove ZA not just disable it as it continues to block ports in that state.

I would suggest you set the pinholes in the router firewall in the longterm.

MC

Foxwood

colly10 wrote:

I know this question has probably been asked before but I have read alot on this and still have no luck.
I have an eircom connection with a netopia router. I need to port forward and I have got this already set up. Now I need to set up a static ip.

No, you don't need to set up a static IP.

Unless you have a couple of dozen machines on your LAN, and you often leave your machine turned off for weeks at a time, your machine will get the same DHCP address every time it asks. It will be, for all intents and purposes, static.

MunsterCycling

Problem semi already solved, you snooze you lose...

DemonOfTheFall

MunsterCycling wrote:

Yeah you SHOULD be ok, only thing is if you ever need to do some debugging regarding ports then you will have remove ZA not just disable it as it continues to block ports in that state.

I would suggest you set the pinholes in the router firewall in the longterm.

MC

He has already forwarded the ports and set the router firewall to low. This means that those ports are pinholed, and that the router is still actively rejecting connections on all non-pinholed ports.

I think the Netopia modem in question is one of the easiest pieces of kit to work with Ive ever had, dont know how it causes so much confusion on here...

MunsterCycling

Possibly coz they're POS? Don't know them but wouldn't let one of them in the door, way too much trouble for the average Joe to setup.


And as regards setting the firewall to low??? Long term this is just asking for trouble using eMule with effectivly no boundry firewall. Proper setup is to open the relevent ports only.

DemonOfTheFall

SETTING THE FIREWALL TO LOW CONTINUES TO BLOCK ALL PORTS WHICH HAVE NOT EXPLICITLY BEEN ALLOWED/FORWARDED/PINHOLED!

Please read the thread and see how many times I have said this.

How do you know that they're POSs if you've never even used them ? If you haven't used them what are you even doing in this thread infact ?!

There's a rule in the computing forum : If you know nothing, don't try to help. It definitely applies in this thread.

MunsterCycling

Hmmm Eircom supply these right? Therefore POS and the number of people with problems with (maybe not this exact model but definatly manufacturer) Netopia routers warrents the tag.

And yeah that rule was tailor made for this situation, so do us a favour...

Foxwood

MunsterCycling wrote:

Hmmm Eircom supply these right? Therefore POS and the number of people with problems with (maybe not this exact model but definatly manufacturer) Netopia routers warrents the tag.

And yeah that rule was tailor made for this situation, so do us a favour...

Judging by the sorts of questions asked on this and other forums, the number of people who have problems with Netopia routers has far more to do with the people than with the routers. And given that about two thirds of Irish broadband users get a Netopia router from their ISP, I'd expect a hell of a lot more questions about them if they were a POS.

MunsterCycling

Well I was trying to be nice but yeah most of the errors are PEBTAC, but that withstanding the Netopias are not really worth a dam. The interface in them is at fault not the hardware but then that is part of the router so still makes them POS

Now I get it Foxy, you work for Eircom... Makes sense now.

Foxwood

MunsterCycling wrote:

Now I get it Foxy, you work for Eircom... Makes sense now.

That's about the level of logical analysis that leads to most of the questions on these boards - "5 plus 6 equals wait a minute until I untie my shoe laces".

I don't work for eircom, or any other ISP, and for the life of me I can't see how you jump to the conclusion that I do, based on my pointing out that there are huge numbers of netopia users out there, most of whom are technically illiterate, yet questions about netopias aren't significantly more prominent than questions about Linksys, NetGear, D-Link, Belkin and ZyXel routers.

MunsterCycling

You know screw it, couldn't be bothered answering anymore of your agressive over bearing know it all posts, thank god for ignore lists.

MC

DemonOfTheFall

Well you're the one who is making judgements about kit you haven't used, drawing logically questionable assumptions from what you see on this forum.

*Of course* you see a huge amount of posts about configuring netopias. I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of broadband users in ireland had netopia routers.

At least try to use a Netopia router once before you imply we're all negligent for letting other people use them / using them ourselves. What do you use pray-tell ? 1000 quid Cisco gear to route your 3 meg DSL line ?

Please, put away the "Big corporations are evil, anything they supply must be crap" ideology. You're the one flaunting Microsoft skills in your sig.

MunsterCycling

Am I ooops yeah there it is, how the hack did that aweful thing get in there???

And just for the record, I have had the unfourtunate pleasure of having to config a netopia, it was crazy the way they have the interface setup, done so much better in Linksys, Netgear and dare I say it Belkin routers that if they cleaned that up problems would decrease exponentially.

colly10

Foxwood wrote:

No, you don't need to set up a static IP.

Unless you have a couple of dozen machines on your LAN, and you often leave your machine turned off for weeks at a time, your machine will get the same DHCP address every time it asks. It will be, for all intents and purposes, static.

Yes I do have to set up a static ip, when I click on obtain ip automatically then try to connect to emule I get a lowid. When I tell it to use the following ip then I get a high id. So I need to tell it to use a certain ip

Foxwood

colly10 wrote:

Yes I do have to set up a static ip, when I click on obtain ip automatically then try to connect to emule I get a lowid. When I tell it to use the following ip then I get a high id. So I need to tell it to use a certain ip

And you don't need to set a static IP to tell it to use a certain IP. Just tell it to use whatever IP you've got today, and there's a pretty good chance that you'll have the same IP address for the forseeable future. Has your "dynamic IP" ever changed?

It only takes about 10 seconds to set a static IP, but it clearly is too hard for some people. So just skip that part, and tell emule to use whatever IP address you've got (though it must have become pretty retarded in the 4 years since I used it, because it used to be able to fgure that stuff out itself). If at an time if the future you notice that you've got a lowID again, just tell emule about your new address.

irlrobins

MunsterCycling wrote:

You know screw it, couldn't be bothered answering anymore of your agressive over bearing know it all posts, thank god for ignore lists.

Christ! Talk about handbags at dawn. :rolleyes:

DemonOfTheFall

Yeah I know. Someone tries to correct you when you're wrong and it's ignore list time.