There should be an "Experimental" music forum

MagnumForce

That's what I think, a place to talk about experimental music, both discussing existing songs/artists and discussing how people are making it themselves. So there ya go, thats my opinion.

DerekD Goldfish

well depending on what you mean by "Experemental" music you could probably disscuss it on the Alternative/Indie board, there is already to much segmentation of music soon we will have a "Proto Funk Post Shoegaze Sadcore" forum

John

I'll gladly welcome any experimental music in Alt/Indie. Experimental music being mostly independent and an alternative to "normal" music I think it fits.

Dudess

Kind of like sound art and stuff?

MagnumForce

Yeah kind of, music made with stuff not specifically designed for making music with, and things like that.
The problem with the alternative/Indie forum is that these terms have come to mean a specific style of music and not just music made by independant bands or people making alternate music, alternate these days kind of means something else to what it should mean.

JC 2K3

MagnumForce wrote:

Yeah kind of, music made with stuff not specifically designed for making music with, and things like that.
The problem with the alternative/Indie forum is that these terms have come to mean a specific style of music and not just music made by independant bands or people making alternate music, alternate these days kind of means something else to what it should mean.

Agreed.

John

That's a fair point. Alvin Lucier and John Cage don't really fit with Arctic Monkeys and Smashing Pumpkins.

John

Suggested it in the Forums forum.

Doomspell

MagnumForce wrote:

That's what I think, a place to talk about experimental music, both discussing existing songs/artists and discussing how people are making it themselves. So there ya go, thats my opinion.

I like it!

odhran

I'm all for it, I'm always trying to expand my musical horizons!

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

Hmm....Well, what do we define as experimental??

MagnumForce

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI wrote:

Hmm....Well, what do we define as experimental??

well, making music with things other than musical instruments would be a big part in my opinion, there are plenty of other things to include in the area of Experimental music which could be included aswell, like using musical instruments in a way they wernt intended to be used. basicaly anything that's unusual and new and different and crazy

John

Anything the Wire covers that isn't jazz

Dudess

I would deem Laurie Anderson an ideal artist of this ilk for discussion (don't know who she is? Google her. I'm technically retarded and don't know how to create a hyperlink). She has created music with car sounds among others. O Superman which, bizarrely, reached number 2 in the UK charts in 1981 is a magnificent piece of work.

John

I don't like Anderson but yeah, she fits the bill. Even bits of Lou Reed (her husband) like Metal Machine Music and any of his guitar playing on VU's White Light, White Heat. Personally, should such a forum exist, I think it should be as wide as possible.

For anyone who hasn't seen it, please add your opinion to the thread in Forums so the admins will pay attention to it and hopefully our dreams can come true.

JC 2K3

I think the best thing to do would be to split the Alt/Indie board into pop-indie and "other", with a stickied topic with a list of band names that fit in the forum as a general guide.

honru

JC 2K3 wrote:

I think the best thing to do would be to split the Alt/Indie board into pop-indie and "other", with a stickied topic with a list of band names that fit in the forum as a general guide.

Nah, that's going a bit too far.

John

And I'd go mad moving posts around as some people just don't read charters and whatnot.

rcaz

Would The Flaming Lips be counted? What with their Parking Lot/Boombox experiments and [url=-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaireeka]Zaireeka[/url]? I'm a huge Lips fan, wondering if they'd count. If The Lips don't count, I'm not sure if I've listened to anything experimental, but it sounds really interesting.

John

I think that element of the Lips certainly is experimental (only in the last couple of years have I seen any other bands move in the same direction of multi-disc albums). Once an artist (any artist) does anything experimental, it's fair game.

EDIT: Please post your opinions in any case on this thread, the admins probably won't look at this one to make their decision.

rcaz

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