is rock n'roll dying

Timans

Limerick Dude, I know what you are talking about. I specifically went on the Saturday to see The Who(One of my favourite bands) There were two scum bags behind me, constantly saying "another soppy love song" or when real Good Looking Boy started "they talking about me?" they nearly ruined it for me. they then proceeded to light up a joint..

I think that sums up a lot of people who go to Oxegen. A place where they can drink themselves stupid, Take drugs and basically wander around off their faces without having to worry about ending up in bed with their brother

It ain't about Music anymore and it was quite an eye opening experience..

I'll finish my point by stating - DIE! SCUMBAGS DIE!

Max_Damage

Its So Easy wrote:

GNR were never a metal band. Hard rock.

Spot on, hard rock would be a half way house between rock and metal, which G'N'R are.

djeddy

:cool: while the young rock bands play the good old rock n roll in their shows,

then it will live on, cause a lot of the young people to day like the real good

old rock music, :cool:

JC 2K3

djeddy wrote:

:cool: while the young rock bands play the good old rock n roll in their shows,

then it will live on, cause a lot of the young people to day like the real good

old rock music, :cool:

Then rock would never progress and get boring....

djeddy

:cool: i dont mean they play all the old rock in their shows,

just have a mixture playing the old rock music with the newer rock music,

includeing their own songs if they write, :cool:

which i seen bands do, and it seems to work out fine :cool:

tracert

JC 2K3 wrote:

Chinese Democracy is out around August/September next year.

Sure it is.

Den_M

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j0e

i like tool, some call them rock, some call them metal, i call them awesome

timmy69

its dying broz, lez save it!!

Clown

"Rock" is a word that people shouldn't be allowed to say because of the amount of assholes that use it to describe their music so they will seem "cool". It's always been more of a collective term to describe alternative music. I think the closest thing to proper rock music are the old classic rock bands like Zeppelin or Queen. After that there was 80's rock which is a completely different style, as is punk, metal, grunge and everything that came after.

Crue and Kiss are completely different from Nirvana who are completely different from the Rolling Stones who are completely different from Radiohead ect. so if I had my way people would be shot if they defined any band as "rock". Every style has a different description of what real rock is.
Back in the 80's it was all about attitude and... big hair :P
In the 70's it was just about experimenting with different styles and stuff.
The 90's stuff seemed to be just about trying to make stuff faster.
And nowdays I have no ****ing clue what rock is about coz the standard is so low these days. MTV have sabatoged the music industry to the point where something as pure as rock n roll is now complete commercialised bull****. My hand hurts from typing so I'm gonna stop complaining now. Peace.

Black NG-60-90

Rock & roll shot itself in the head in 1994, from then on bands were afraid to live the rock & roll dream. What bands thrash hotel rooms, get ****ed up on smack and do obscene stuff with groupies nowdays?

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Black NG-60-90 wrote:

Rock & roll shot itself in the head in 1994, from then on bands were afraid to live the rock & roll dream. What bands thrash hotel rooms, get ****ed up on smack and do obscene stuff with groupies nowdays?

erm, rock and roll is about the music. not the hotel room:rolleyes:
but i do agree, rockers today are never as wild as the used to be... but that doesnt make them play worse, in fact it makes for a better concert if they can find the way to the stage with falling over.

Dreamcrusher

Rock was more or less dead in the early 90's. If youre talking about popularity wise that is. TV and radio was more focused on either crap like mr. big/extreme or just crap dance music. In my school of around 800 pupils there were only maybe 5 or 6 of us that had long hair and were considered 'rockers' back then. But times have changed and now 'rock', or more appropristely, 'pop music cleverly disguised as rock-indie' is predominant in the charts and its 'cool' to be into rock again. When i was a teenager we were slagged for it, now its the in thing. And right now its probably about as bloated as it can get, with countless identi-kit 'the' bands coming out every week looking like they were all cut fromt he same cloth. The killers, The Strokes, The what-bleedin-ever, i dont need to name them you all know them. Even ass crapping rap metal bands like papa roach are suddenly back, and have traded thier baggy trousers and skateboards for fringes and eyeliner. Everyone wants in on it cause its profitable right now, but not for much longer. Music seems to go in 10year cycles of popularity, and soon this rock phase will be replaced by something else, be it hip hop, or dance or whatever.
Good music is out there im sure, but you wond find it in the charts, and you wont find it with 'the' prefixed before it.
Personally, my music collection tends to be stuff from the 70's, 80's and early 90's. The most modern stuff ill listen to is opeth. Maybe getting older has made me more cynical and less accepting, but all these the bands just seem like money making tools for record companies, a quick buck.

Killaqueen!!!

"Rock n roll is deaaad...."

Good tune..and lenny kravitz is right. Dunno when he sung it but from my point of view, rock n roll died when I was born! 1991. Maybe I'm a little biased though, because Queen are my fav band and Freddie died in that year. But it probably did die sometime in the 90s. You just don't have any classic 'rock' bands any more. It was all in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s...no matter what type of rock you're talking about. It doesn't bother me too much because there's 50 other genres out there which are also great - I don't think new music is bad. Hell, I even like rave music when I'm in the mood.

Rock n roll is dead but it will live on in the sense that a lot of younger people actually have a good taste of music these days and still listen to the oldies. My favourite band is Queen. I'm crazy about them. Yet the true Queen had been gone long before I grew up. I know loads of people who are obsessed with Queen, Zeppelin, The Beatles, etc.

Rock n roll is dead. Viva indie rock n roll!!!

Executive Steve

there hasn't been a shred of creativity in any rock music in decades imo...

i honestly haven't heard anything since early nine inch nails that did anything even remotely different with the standard boring old rock template...

the current "rock revival" is to me basically just a depressing indication that people would rather sound like something their dad's would have liked than to do something interesting and fresh with music...

i just... don't.... get it.

Executive Steve

Timans wrote:

Limerick Dude, I know what you are talking about. I specifically went on the Saturday to see The Who(One of my favourite bands) There were two scum bags behind me, constantly saying "another soppy love song" or when real Good Looking Boy started "they talking about me?" they nearly ruined it for me. they then proceeded to light up a joint..

I think that sums up a lot of people who go to ******. A place where they can drink themselves stupid, Take drugs and basically wander around off their faces without having to worry about ending up in bed with their brother

It ain't about Music anymore and it was quite an eye opening experience..

I'll finish my point by stating - DIE! SCUMBAGS DIE!

and you seriously think that that doesn't sum up the entire mindset of everyone who was at woodstock????

i don't know whether to laugh or just shake my head in disbelief...

MooseJam

No it's not dead, it's soul lives on in my ipod, stroll's off to play hysteria one more time.
Def Leppard - greatest rock band in the history of our time age. Ever !

Karl Hungus

It's sad to see so many people who jump to the assumption that just because good music isn't shoved down their throats, that it doesn't exist.

Might be hard to grasp, but just because the likes of The Killers and Scissor Sisters are in the public eye, that doesn't mean that there's no other rock bands out there.

But I suppose if you're just too lazy or stupid to simply look beneath the surface, then for you, Rock is dead; Killed by your own ignorance.

brianthebard

thebaz wrote:

will we ever see a revolution like punk, from way back in 1977?
hip/hop and Rap have left there mark , but something new needs to happen now , otherwise i fear modern music will follow top of the pops.

The punk "revolution" was a farce. And the sex pistols were more manufactuered than half the pop bands of the 90's. What exactly is it you expect to happen or want to happen?

And rock and roll isn't dead. Its evolving. If you what you expect is music to match the dead musicans you mentioned in your first post then you'll find a dead scene.

JC 2K3

[cm]tyranny wrote:

there hasn't been a shred of creativity in any rock music in decades imo...

i honestly haven't heard anything since early nine inch nails that did anything even remotely different with the standard boring old rock template...

the current "rock revival" is to me basically just a depressing indication that people would rather sound like something their dad's would have liked than to do something interesting and fresh with music...

i just... don't.... get it.

lol dude, read Karl Hungus's last post. He knows the score.

Black NG-60-90

thebaz wrote:

will we ever see a revolution like punk, from way back in 1977?
hip/hop and Rap have left there mark , but something new needs to happen now , otherwise i fear modern music will follow top of the pops.

Something new will happen someday. Nobody could have predicited punk happening back in the 70's, so we can't predict what happens next.

Executive Steve

JC 2K3 wrote:

lol dude, read Karl Hungus's last post. He knows the score.

i read karl's posts - i read an awful lot of his posts and while i often don't quite agree with him i always find him to be an intelligent and readable poster.

still can't think where in the realm of "rock music" there's been any innovation in the last few decades to be honest...

in terms of the performance dynamic, in terms of song structure, in terms of subject matter, sonic palette and pretty much everything else i haven't heard anything even slightly new coming out of the "rock" scene since the early nineties, with the likes of tortoise, mogwai and atari teenage riot...

believe me, i'm looking a lot further than the bloody scissor sisters too...

OctavarIan

[cm]tyranny wrote:

still can't think where in the realm of "rock music" there's been any innovation in the last few decades to be honest...

Have a browse around here. There's a good amount of quality songs for free streaming, see if anything interests you.

Psychobiker

IMHO it died with the 'ethnic' influx...rap. But yes, it may still be alive and kicking somwhere, but that's hard to find amongst todays seething pit of mediocrity.
When people start to call the Killers, Arctic Monkeys and Snow Patrol rock....I'm convinced there's a factory churning out generic bands, that sound the same, are not that talented, and all wear scarves and go to Trinners

Psychobiker

also, there appears to have been a massive jump in classification, and new genres spawned for basically every band, when in the 70s, a lot may have fallen under the 'rock' umbrella. Whereas today - "angry-at-my-rich-parents-going-to-cut-myself-with-gold-plated-razorblade core"

MoominPapa

[cm]tyranny wrote:

still can't think where in the realm of "rock music" there's been any innovation in the last few decades to be honest...
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three words "the mars volta"

Karl Hungus

[cm]tyranny wrote:

i read karl's posts - i read an awful lot of his posts and while i often don't quite agree with him i always find him to be an intelligent and readable poster.

Thank you.

[cm]tyranny wrote:

still can't think where in the realm of "rock music" there's been any innovation in the last few decades to be honest...

in terms of the performance dynamic, in terms of song structure, in terms of subject matter, sonic palette and pretty much everything else i haven't heard anything even slightly new coming out of the "rock" scene since the early nineties, with the likes of tortoise, mogwai and atari teenage riot...

believe me, i'm looking a lot further than the bloody scissor sisters too...

I suppose it depends on what you're looking for in music aswell. I mean, if you're after something that's completely 100% new, innovative, and never been done before, then yeah that could be pretty hard to find.

Personally, I'd just look for something unique, like bands with their own distinct sound. Take Dream Theater for example, you can certainly see the influences of Rush, Queen, Metallica and Maiden, but Dream Theater have their own very distinct sound that's just nothing like anyone else.

So there's plenty of Rock bands now that have their own distinct sound, and not some identikit "The..." band sound. Just check out Green Carnation and Porcupine Tree for example.